Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #2

[MsBetsy]

Yes. The Dad was away in OK on Nat’l Guard duty. He returned home to CO on Tuesday as did bio mom who lives in SC.

The reason I am picky about the times is because of the discrepancy between the time of the dispatch call which was reported as 6:55 and the time of deputies arrival at 10:09.

Yes, I wonder if the fact that he was reported as a runaway has anything to do with the time delay.

I think it all depends on what exactly the caller said and whether the situation was presented as being urgent.

Imo

 

[Ontario Mom]

Maybe they were made to feel extremely unwelcome. -Maybe the house itself was being forensically searched. Just putting myself in their position, yeah, going to buy some new underwear and temporary clothes would be imperative for this gal who had a job. I'm not saying what happened on Sunday or Monday, just that buying underwear and other clothes for her 17 year old, and for herself, doesn't seem insensitive at all. To me. There are a lot of other things to criticize SM for.

I don't think it's insensitive to the situation exactly, as it's perfectly practical that you'd need to do those things if you didn't have access to your personal items. I just question if it all really went down the way the step-mom implied. She did seem to be really good at making herself the victim in the case of Gannon going missing, so maybe that's what she's doing here about not being in the family home, and how it really went down? I'm just guessing.

 

[NuttMegg]

Oh, wow, I didn't realize that she herself implied he was turning against her. I'll have to watch the interview again.

That may be one reason behind her wanting to do the interview, being defensive, and appearing alone and without the husband.

That she is so upset about what is being said on SM is probably a good reason why she should have refrained from doing an interview in the first place.

Hopefully this woman doesn't turn out to be anything like the stepmother you had.

I wonder about the family dynamics also. Did she get along with all the kids? Was it difficult for her to be left alone with them and was this a regular occurrence?
There is a lot we don't know but it is interesting that she mentioned the conflict between her and her husband.
Not to mention what the mother of the kids must feel about her.

Imo

MsBetsy, near the end of her interview. paraphrased: When the boy is safely found and shows that she had nothing to do with it, that will show the father. I think along the same lines as you, that after a few days of being kept out of her house, having the daughter who has a job to go to also not being able to get her clothes (for one reason or another), and while she herself has to stand in a field to tell her side, no wonder she was indignant. While also seeming insensitive with the remark about caring for the boy for 2 years because the mother didn't want to.

 

[NuttMegg]

It makes sense to me that BM is staying at the house. She would naturally want to be there in case Gannon comes home. Maybe no one told SM to leave, but she chose to because she was upset with having this particular houseguest.

Did other family members accompany BM too? If there were ongoing rivalries between the 2 women, I can imagine that SM would feel pushed out if (her own husband) BD invited BM to stay there.

 

[GordianKnot]

I dont see how they could legally keep her from her underwear.

This is pure theatrics on the part of SM.

It's no more likely to be true than her claim that LE "threatened to shoot her."

Even if it is, you can run in Walmart and pick up a 3-pack of Hanes for around 10 bucks.

Problem. Solved.

That family has much bigger things to worry about, although you'd never know it from listening to her.

Most notably, there's an 11-year-old little boy who's been missing for days in the dead of winter.

But, no. Let's get all frantic about some 17-year-old's lack of clean skivvies, instead.

Again: Priorities.

JMO.

 

[FlossyMay]

Did other family members accompany BM too? If there were ongoing rivalries between the 2 women, I can imagine that SM would feel pushed out if (her own husband) BD invited BM to stay there.

I haven't read anything about other family members, only Gannon's mother.

 

[MsBetsy]

MsBetsy, near the end of her interview. paraphrased: When the boy is safely found and shows that she had nothing to do with it, that will show the father. I think along the same lines as you, that after a few days of being kept out of her house, having the daughter who has a job to go to also not being able to get her clothes (for one reason or another), and while she herself has to stand in a field to tell her side, no wonder she was indignant. While also seeming insensitive with the remark about caring for the boy for 2 years because the mother didn't want to.

Thanks, it does seem that there is a great deal of animosity between the mother and stepmother, and maybe her husband.

Something is definitely brewing behind the scenes if she was really kicked out of her own house.

Imo

 

[SuziQ]

I dont see how they could legally keep her from her underwear.

ITA. The being kicked out of the house scenario has me scratching my head. How and why did that happen? WTH went down? I don't think it could legally happen, let alone prevent them from retrieving their personal items. Unless there was a DV situation and LE asked her to leave. However, SM appears to only tell details that paint her as a victim.

SM sure had a lot of incidents happen to her for being a mere misunderstood victim.

She loses her teaching certificate through her fault.

She is kicked out of her house.

She has an altercation with LE involving handguns and handcuffs.

More negative interaction with LE during an interview.

And what the heck happened a month ago that she didn't want to discuss?

IMO there is much known and going on behind the scenes.

I bet bio dad didn't wait for LE to get a warrant to search his house. And I bet dogs have already been through it.

MOO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

MsBetsy, near the end of her interview. paraphrased: When the boy is safely found and shows that she had nothing to do with it, that will show the father. I think along the same lines as you, that after a few days of being kept out of her house, having the daughter who has a job to go to also not being able to get her clothes (for one reason or another), and while she herself has to stand in a field to tell her side, no wonder she was indignant. While also seeming insensitive with the remark about caring for the boy for 2 years because the mother didn't want to.

If this woman is entirely innocent of having anything whatsoever to do with Gannon's disappearance, then yes of course it makes sense that she'd be angry, indignant, defensive and all the things. I suppose anyone likely would feel the same way. And at the end of this case if it turns out that in fact she had nothing to do with it, then I suppose everyone assuming her guilt will have to handle that in their own way. I'm trying super hard not to assume guilt but she sure didn't help with that interview.

That said, there's a LOT we just don't know. We don't know the facts about why she's out of the family home. We don't know the facts about what kind of conversation, if any, transpired about "but I have to get mine and [daughter's name] clothes and personal hygiene items". We don't know if she really wasn't allowed to gather some personal affects or if she just didn't, and left. We don't know who's idea it was to have her stand in a field and do an interview. It's possible it was the reporter's idea to have her stand there so the neighborhood was seen in the background. We don't know where Gannon is, who he's with (if anyone), how he got there or if he's ever coming home.

It would be really nice if LE would provide some kind of update to rule out this, or confirm that, type of update.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The question I would like her to answer is
"Tell me what happened from when you got up monday morning till you called LE"

This way she can choose her own words, ( without contamination) and where to begin. ( this shows priority) This type of open question can reveal much more information than they realise.

Hopefully and expectedly, this scenario took place as you described. Skilled investigators opened the interview with this appropriate approach. Her interview was no doubt recorded. Analysts used visuals and audio as a tool for discussion. Results aiding in calculated progression of investigation. imo

 

[MsBetsy]

ITA. The being kicked out of the house scenario has me scratching my head. How and why did that happen? WTH went down? I don't think it could legally happen, let alone prevent them from retrieving their personal items. Unless there was a DV situation and LE asked her to leave. However, SM appears to only tell details that paint her as a victim.

SM sure had a lot of incidents happen to her for being a mere misunderstood victim.

She loses her teaching certificate through her fault.

She is kicked out of her house.

She has an altercation with LE involving handguns and handcuffs.

More negative interaction with LE during an interview.

And what the heck happened a month ago that she didn't want to discuss?

IMO there is much known and going on behind the scenes.

I bet bio dad didn't wait for LE to get a warrant to search his house. And I bet dogs have already been through it.

MOO.

No, I don't think she can be legally kicked out of the house, either.

She would have every right to stay there and noone can force her to leave.

At least that's how it is where I live.
One would have to go to court and there would be certain legal procedures, especially since they are married.

How did she lose her teaching certificate? I know she said something about moving out of state but it wasn't that clear.
Which state was she licensed to teach in before?

Imo

 

[Sonic7273]

Okay, so sunset was approximately 5:15 on Monday. That means he should have been home around 5:30-5:45 at the latest. Dad says that within a few hours of not coming home SM knew something was wrong. Does he mean within a few hours of leaving or a few hours after he should have been home. That would put the time around either 6:30-7:00 ish or 9:30-10:00 ish.
In the next paragraph Dad says it was about 30 minutes past the time he should have been home, “started to worry at that point”.

He then states he called around to various friends because they didn’t know which one he had planned to go to. “Eventually, the police were called.”
This makes the timeline very loosey goosey to me.

What blows my mind is that dad is parenting Gannon from out of state - calling neighbors and friends houses to see if he’s there vs the stepmom who is RIGHT THERE. Seems weird. Even taking into account the step parent relationship.

 

[Warwick7]

It makes sense to me that BM is staying at the house. She would naturally want to be there in case Gannon comes home. Maybe no one told SM to leave, but she chose to because she was upset with having this particular houseguest.

And under these dire circumstances, if your comfort zone is more important the missing child then maybe you should leave. Her concern for her comfort zone and the lack of concern for her stepson really bothers me.....

 

[NuttMegg]

This is pure theatrics on the part of SM.

It's no more likely to be true than her claim that LE "threatened to shoot her."

Even if it is, you can run in Walmart and pick up a 3-pack of Hanes for around 10 bucks.

Problem. Solved.

That family has much bigger things to worry about, although you'd never know it from listening to her.

Most notably, there's an 11-year-old little boy who's been missing for days in the dead of winter.

But, no. Let's get all frantic about some 17-year-old's lack of clean skivvies, instead.

Priorities.

JMO.

Well, she wasn't complaining about skivvies, she was complaining about her USAF member daughter being put in handcuffs in the middle of a department store. I don't know if that happened, either, but wow, if it did, what an insult to the daughter and mother. Unless there was some big melee we don't know about.

 

[Warwick7]

The father has sided against the stepmother?
I haven't seen anything indicating that. Can you give an example?

Since she is not the child's mother and only a step parent, I wonder how much she enforced the rules when the father was away.

She apparently kept the child home on Monday but never mentioned what was wrong with him, at least not that I have seen.

She reported him as a runaway but has not given a reason why she assumed he ran away.

Did they not get along? Did they have an argument? Did he want to do something and she would not allow it?

If she knew that he went to a friend's house then why immediately assume he ran away, without any reason?

At first it was reported that he went across the street to visit a friend. Later the father said he went to see a friend a few streets away. Which is it and where did the information come from? I'm assuming she told him so why did she originally say he went across the street? If she didn't know which friend's house he went to then how would she know it was the friend across the street?

Or is it just bad reporting?

Imo

Yes, She reported him as a runaway but has not given a reason why she assumed he ran away.

 

[Ontario Mom]

How did she lose her teaching certificate? I know she said something about moving out of state but it wasn't that clear.
Which state was she licensed to teach in before?

Imo

I transcribed that part of the interview so I wouldn't have to actually listen again:

At the 8:32 mark she states:

"Um, I think that a lot of people can see that I'm not missing, and see that I am being cooperative, and, but, to me it's okay that they think those things because my, the way someone thinks about me, I don't have a problem with that. My main thing is I would never want someone to think that I hurt Gannon or any of the children in our home cause that's just not the case. I've spent my whole entire life working so hard in education, um, there's even things online that was talking about my education license and I shouldn't even be a teacher, and they just didn't know that. Like, we moved on a military move, and I didn't finish out my contract so, I gave up my license in that state. Um, it had nothing to do with any criminal activity you know, or any of those things, and it just got blown out of proportion on my professional status you know and... " VIDEO: Stepmom of missing Colorado boy speaks out

 

[oviedo]

Yes. The Dad was away in OK on Nat’l Guard duty. He returned home to CO on Tuesday as did bio mom who lives in SC.

The reason I am picky about the times is because of the discrepancy between the time of the dispatch call which was reported as 6:55 and the time of deputies arrival at 10:09.

stepmother said he left to go to a friend's house, however, "But investigators said they had checked home security cameras in the neighborhood and had not identified images of Gannon on any of them."

Authorities say Gannon Stauch 'missing and endangered' after days gone - KRDO
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I just don’t think he was at the house that afternoon
IMO
Trying to construct a timeline with MSM links is proving difficult
JMO

 

[NuttMegg]

SBM
How did she lose her teaching certificate? I know she said something about moving out of state but it wasn't that clear.
Which state was she licensed to teach in before?

Imo

That last one can be found with a google search, with results from a bonafide government website.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

There’s an 11-year-old boy who we can’t find, so that’s kind of all the motivation that you need. There’s a family who needs us to rally behind them. Being part of a military family, you’re kind of just motivated to rally around your people to begin with,” one volunteer said.

She continued, “My tribe back here has been really helpful in keeping me motivated. We were up till midnight last night working on these stickers and all I kept telling myself was there were people out till 3 a.m. looking for him. There’s people out every day looking for him. This is the least that we can do.”

The El Paso County Sheriff’s Office asks those who live in or around the Lorson Ranch area to be mindful of and check areas on your property a child may hide to include yards, window wells, outbuildings and culverts.
Community members paint the town blue for missing 11-year-old Gannon Stauch

 

[Warwick7]

This is pure theatrics on the part of SM.

It's no more likely to be true than her claim that LE "threatened to shoot her."

Even if it is, you can run in Walmart and pick up a 3-pack of Hanes for around 10 bucks.

Problem. Solved.

That family has much bigger things to worry about, although you'd never know it from listening to her.

Most notably, there's an 11-year-old little boy who's been missing for days in the dead of winter.

But, no. Let's get all frantic about some 17-year-old's lack of clean skivvies, instead.

Priorities.

JMO.

YES! No one else brought up the skivvies, only she did. She was talking about things that were important to her.

On the flip side, I think a whole lot more things we're being shopped for. Her and her daughter were going shopping. [Sometimes when I'm stressed I go shopping.]

Bringing up a lack of underwear into the picture downplays the fact that they were actually shopping.