Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #21

[COSCitizen]

BBM

A change in venue can be a hardship for prosecutors according to attorneys I know.
JMO

I believe that. It may be that Patrick Frazee's attorneys didn't request a change of venue because Teller County has a lot of, I won't say anti-government types, but perhaps people who take a fairly iconoclastic view of issues.

 

[Fireflize]

THANK YOU!!

(I'm screengrabbing this exchange btw )



I thought I posted this, but maybe I didn't... didn't the Crime Online article said they reached out to RD for clarification? Maybe he has also, additionally, told Friend of WS Leigh Egan, the same thing he let leak on his own FB; and we just don't know about it yet.



That's a good question.

I've posted before, saying that I know folks have used inanimate objects to up their step count on Fitbit (purposefully hooked it to a ceiling fan; accidentally tossed it into a dryer); but that seems only useful for increasing number of steps counted, and not heart rate or locale. I don't know if an Apple Watch is different.

Though, now that I type that out, I note if maybe TS always meant for the watch to signify ... something else, tied to her original contention that she was in the basement "exercising" when Gannon last left the house.

Maybe it was always going to be a part of her alibi(es).

Exercising as in cleaning , mopping with bleach.

 

[kittythehare]

I'm not on FB so I don't know what RD is doing or has done.

The post here on WS said "He, RD is posting another clear video on there from Sunday."

That sounds like he's doing more than "clarifying" Monday's video. It also sounds like he may have already posted other security camera footage such as Sunday video of the children.
JMO

Clarifying Sunday video is clarification that the still Tee presented as being Gannon emerging Monday, was actually from Sunday's footage is my understanding. Sorry if I was unclear about that. It is not new. Fox presented it. Link is here from last night.

 

[kpalma71580]

New search tomorrow, can I post this?

POSTPONED until 29FEB :Volunteer Search for GANNON (Military Only)

 

[youcancallmeal]

Will there actually be a search tomorrow? I was so hoping we would hear something today.

 

[Fireflize]

That is so amazing what the apple watch registers. Now that I know this I doubt I will invest in one. I don't like something knowing more about me than I do

I totally understand that. However, my autistic granddaughter wears one, for extra safety.

 

[jvikes]

This is basically the case. It’s taking all your health data and making a pattern. Think off all the things you do that you don’t think about that are small physical movements.

How do you clean your teeth? Do you hold your breath when you brush? What kind of brusher are you-do you wiggle the brush, brush straight up and down, go circles all the way, some combination? Do you brush your tongue or tear a tongue scraper? How often? Do you floss? How often? What’s your flossing method-do you start in the lower right, left, upper right, left? Do you use floss that you need to wind on your finger or those take and toss ones? Where do you throw away your floss? Do you gargle? Spit? Do you rinse? Wash your face before or after? Wipe your face on a cloth?

Now think about your loved ones. They probably don’t have the exact same rhythm. My kid won’t floss unless I ask him if he did. He also uses too much toothpaste and will do two rounds of brushing so he can use more toothpaste. I’m a foamy brusher and like lots of toothpaste, too. My husband uses a single pearl of toothpaste. He also can finish brushing without wiping his face. I have toothpaste on my chin, so I wash my face right after brushing. I also clean the sink after I’m finished, every time. I floss twice a day. My husband flosses at night only. He uses mouthwash at night and hates it, so he holds his breath and winces.

Just that activity alone shows how different we all are. All of that info? Stored on your Apple Watch. It knows that you physically move this way, your heart rate speeds up when you use mouthwash, you hold your breath when you brush, you gargle for ______ seconds, because your body keeps the score. It also knows when you’re doing something out of the ordinary. When something scared you. When you were interrupted. Those things cause biological responses, and the Apple Watch records all that.

If you were to have your child put on an Apple Watch and brush their teeth, it wouldn’t create the same biological signature. Their heart rate isn’t the same. They don’t breathe the same way or hold their breath at the same time. They don’t have the same movements, their rhythm is different.

I love data like this because you can’t fool it. You can’t lie and have it explained away. No one will believe you, and Apple has plenty of R&D from people that are far smarter than I’ll ever know. It isn’t perfect, but you can’t trick it. The series 5 watches can give you a real time egc. It isn’t going to believe someone else is you while they’re wearing your watch.

Also: this is why I don't have an Apple watch.

 

[Warwick7]

I'm not sure why there's agreement that she would have the lesser-capable Apple Watch. My assessment of her personality-type as her wanting the best/most updated, to satisfy her vanity, even at the expense of other necessities. Just sayin'.

Also, having the LTE-capable version would allow her to send/receive texts even if the phone is far away/left at home.

Here's to hoping any info a user attempts to delete (in order to scrub traces of geolocation) is not truly deleted right away and is still discoverable by LE.

Yes I agree. She is a dominant narcissistic profile. You better bet she would have the best

 

[Boxer]

LE is on record with the statement that releasing it was not their preference and they are the only party to release credible information. The spokesperson said that releasing information that’s part of an investigation can be compromising to future pursuits of justice.

MOO it matters what did the detectives told RD. The PC was after the release. I agree releasing was probably a bad idea.

 

[Boxer]

I believe forgetting to remove her Apple watch was an oversight. It is possible that someone else wore the watch, but highly unlikely. How does one approach another to do such a thing? "Hey, would you wear my Apple watch and take a drive along those back roads for a while, then return the watch to me ... please?" Nah, I don't think so.

The other poster with Apple watch knowledge says that giving it to someone else does not work, the watch knows your heart pattern etc. wont accept another person to be you.

 

[Silverheels]

New search tomorrow, can I post this?

POSTPONED until 29FEB :Volunteer Search for GANNON (Military Only)

I’m not caught up but I do think the search tomorrow is happening. I drove by 83 and 105 today and the mobile command unit is parked in the construction parking lot for the new high school. SE corner of 83 and 105.

 

[Boxer]

I understand your point, however, I really don’t think it matters. IMO, LE was going to confront her about it anyways. It’s a solid piece of evidence. She was going to lie regardless, IMO.

A small piece of a larger puzzle, and a lot more is needed than that to convict. The video brought huge publicity for Gannon, so there was a big upside too.

 

[Bravo]

I totally understand that. However, my autistic granddaughter wears one, for extra safety.

I was kidding. That's an awesome layer of safety for your grandaughter.

 

[PrayingForMissing]

This thread is moving so fast. I can't keep up. I'm just trying to skim through. Whew.

Same. I'm working and trying to peek here and there, but I'm failing. Lost!

 

[SleuthBee]

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I really wish RD rises above and does not take TS's bait. I it is hard. She publicly accused him of selling the video, lying and falsifying the date and time stamp.

Please RD, for yours and the sake of the case, shut this down. TS's desperation will only increase and the crazy will only get crazier. So, sit back, relax, make some popcorn and do not respond.

 

[Boxer]

I really wish RD rises above and does not take TS's bait. I it is hard. She publicly accused him of selling the video, lying and falsifying the date and time stamp.

Please RD, for yours and the sake of the case, shut this down. TS's desperation will only increase and the crazy will only get crazier. So, sit back, relax, make some popcorn and do not respond.

A child murderer two doors down, he is mad.

 

[Bravo]

But i like watching crazy get crazier

 

[SleuthBee]

BBM

A change in venue can be a hardship for prosecutors according to attorneys I know.
JMO

Oh darn

I meant that it won't make a difference for TS.

 

[SleuthBee]

But i like watching crazy get crazier

LMAO!!!!

 

[Warwick7]

The watch doesn’t have a camera at all. The only way she could’ve taken a photo is with the phone itself. There are a few functions you can utilize with the watch, like a shutter timer or push to take a photo options, but again, they require the iPhone because the watch doesn’t contain a camera.

When you watch the red truck video, she backs up and sits there approx 11 seconds.

I think she was waiting for him to come out and because he either didn't or was taking too long she went in and got him.

They both got into the truck-- I think at thay moment with her own phone she snapped a picture.

And then if you watch carefully she opens her door gets out, with her door wide open, goes back into the house.

I agree with other posters that she took her phone back in. And did not take a picture with her watch.