Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #23

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  • #861
bbm


Would it have been perceived differently if TS had left GS home and alone? Maybe his 'sick' was not a significant issue at that time. It probably wasn't the best choice to make him travel that distance but I expect she saw no other choice, considering what we think we know of her personality. This element is 'sorta' explainable, but still is an issue.

I get that TS explaining those items is perceived as being "extremely coincidental" but, I also note that GS is an 11 year old boy, and a seemingly active one, at that. We've all seen the photo of GS in a back-flip dive over water while wearing a Mae West. But, we also may have seen or heard other media elements of GS. Those media elements cause great concern, and tilt the likelihood toward a nefarious possibility.

Of course it would be strange if GS isn't shown in any surveillance footage from (non-RD) cameras in the neighborhood... but I do not believe we know one way or the other. Significant time has elapsed for LE to have gathered additional video from various sources but LE has been hush-hush as of late. We do not know.

There is no evidence of GS having been abducted; no evidence. This remains a possibility. Pending.

There is no definitive evidence of GS having not returned from the shopping trip. Superficial evidence, yes, but I simply can not ignore what I see in the RD video. GS is not seen upon the return but I have a reasonable doubt. Even accounting for TS' changing story regarding driveway or no driveway parking, I have no idea of her then-mental state; maybe she's exhausted, certainly fearful (death threats), desperate and who knows what else. Narcissistic? I don't know. Self-centered? There's evidence that supports such a conclusion. A murderer? I don't know. Does anyone here know? Is it possible. Yes. Is it proven as of yet? Nope. Will it be? Pending.

Your pushback is reasonable. I personally don’t think LE would be picking apart the house so closely and looking at their vehicles with such interest and seemingly searching where TS says she has been if they didn’t have more than we do that points to TS.
 
  • #862
If I had to pick up someone at the airport around noon, and one of my kids was missing, I wouldn't show up at the airport at all. He could get a taxi, red car, or call a friend.

Sorry dear hubby, all my energy must go toward finding my child.
Did I miss what time AS' flight came in? I've had to skim a lot to catch up, so I'm just wondering if his flight time was ever confirmed.
 
  • #863
bbm
im just wondering how the SM knows Gannon is still alive and out there? Everytime I read a interview from her that's what she says,does she not realize its been over a month, why would she think that at all?

A 11 year old out on his own in that weather doesn't have much of a chance to survive this long, ugh she makes me so mad!

She's his step-mother so why wouldn't TS want to believe GS is alive? Do you think LH wants to believe GS is alive? I hope that wouldn't make you mad.

Whether we like it or not TS has not been named as a POI nor as a SUSPECT. Her words and actions are perceived as contradictory, questionable, but we have yet to see evidence of guilt. The circumstantial is incomplete to date. Assumptions are not enough for me. I need to see more, noting my reasonable doubt regarding the RD video.
 
  • #864
Did I miss what time AS' flight came in? I've had to skim a lot to catch up, so I'm just wondering if his flight time was ever confirmed.
It was not, far as I know but I got the sense it was afternoon..
 
  • #865
I'm alarmingly suspicious then. I bought a faraday bag and sometimes I put my phone in it during my commute, just to mess with any advertisers/social media apps that might be trying to geolocate me through my phone.

It's all fun and games, until I'm suspected of murder. Then y'all are gonna gang up on me for sure. Especially when you hear about some of my books, toys and hobbies.

If its something you do occasionally then it won't look suspicious as it will show on your records of having a history of doing it, If on the other hand you phone goes dark for the first time ever during the same period of time your step child goes missing while doing 900 miles in a rental car then that's super suspicious .
 
  • #866
-Tee gave CrimeOnline the receipt. (So said author of the article, Leigh Egan, here on WS.)

-CrimeOnline blacked out the details and should as per admittance of Leigh Egan commenting also here on this site, The article was edited to black out the pickup locale.
Not confirmed; but we do, IMO, know it wasn't an official Missing poster, because nobody here can ever recall seeing an official agency's Missing poster that features anything but the Missing person(s). Other people not missing, are always cropped out of the posters.

RSBM

"-CrimeOnline blacked out the details and should"

Curious as to why you say and should or is that Leigh's comment? I could see credit card info etc being blocked...even that crazy mileage, which ironically they left in.
It is my understanding his poster now follows the standards/guidelines set by Missing and Exploited children organization. The original was home- made, so to speak, don't know by who.
 
  • #867
Yesterday I posted that I was surprised that Leigh (Crime Online) did not ask what car Stepmom took to the airport, as it was a logical question. Leigh came on a few minutes later, replying that stepmom said that she took her own car to the airport and picked it up when she returned the rental. This never was in the article, but it was here on WS.
Thread #22
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is @leighEg reply to you.
 
  • #868
bbm


Would it have been perceived differently if TS had left GS home and alone? Maybe his 'sick' was not a significant issue at that time. It probably wasn't the best choice to make him travel that distance but I expect she saw no other choice, considering what we think we know of her personality. This element is 'sorta' explainable, but still is an issue.

I get that TS explaining those items is perceived as being "extremely coincidental" but, I also note that GS is an 11 year old boy, and a seemingly active one, at that. We've all seen the photo of GS in a back-flip dive over water while wearing a Mae West. But, we also may have seen or heard other media elements of GS. Those media elements cause great concern, and tilt the likelihood toward a nefarious possibility.

Of course it would be strange if GS isn't shown in any surveillance footage from (non-RD) cameras in the neighborhood... but I do not believe we know one way or the other. Significant time has elapsed for LE to have gathered additional video from various sources but LE has been hush-hush as of late. We do not know.

There is no evidence of GS having been abducted; no evidence. This remains a possibility. Pending.

There is no definitive evidence of GS having not returned from the shopping trip. Superficial evidence, yes, but I simply can not ignore what I see in the RD video. GS is not seen upon the return but I have a reasonable doubt. Even accounting for TS' changing story regarding driveway or no driveway parking, I have no idea of her then-mental state; maybe she's exhausted, certainly fearful (death threats), desperate and who knows what else. Narcissistic? I don't know. Self-centered? There's evidence that supports such a conclusion. A murderer? I don't know. Does anyone here know? Is it possible. Yes. Is it proven as of yet? Nope. Will it be? Pending.


IMO. I completely understand the need to remain open minded while we review what we “know”
She has been bringing all this on herself with her self serving crap.
Interviews? If that’s what you want to call them, she picks and chooses what she wants to respond to.
Does she mention Gannon? Maybe as an afterthought.
T support group? lol. Really? lol.
She wants an apology from everybody?
Excuse after excuse, story after story, ugh.
Gannon disappeared on her watch, I want to hear what she is doing to help find him.
 
  • #869
Did I miss what time AS' flight came in? I've had to skim a lot to catch up, so I'm just wondering if his flight time was ever confirmed.

It was not, far as I know but I got the sense it was afternoon..

Snipped from the Crimeonline part 2 article:

That morning, Stauch said she picked up her husband at the Colorado Springs airport; both left the airport in the rental car, she claimed.

Gannon Stauch: Stepmom explains rental car as search for missing Colorado boy continues [EXCLUSIVE PART 2]
 
  • #870
Wow. I totally get where you are coming from and so glad to see this post. I have felt this since I saw her interview too, but it in a general way without the specifics you have elucidated. This is what I really mean when I said she has someone or some group supporting her. Some social psyop thing. You have the better vocabulary for it. I also study these things. Is our society so broken and so depraved now that what we are saying is possible in this case ? IMO Yes.

It's better than it was in the 90's (and certainly better than in the 1930's or 1900).

https://sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/dbassesite/documents/webpage/dbasse_083892.pdf
 
  • #871
bbm


She's his step-mother so why wouldn't TS want to believe GS is alive? Do you think LH wants to believe GS is alive? I hope that wouldn't make you mad.

Whether we like it or not TS has not been named as a POI nor as a SUSPECT. Her words and actions are perceived as contradictory, questionable, but we have yet to see evidence of guilt. The circumstantial is incomplete to date. Assumptions are not enough for me. I need to see more, noting my reasonable doubt regarding the RD video.
TS herself claims she is being interrogated and that they are chasing her instead of going after the real responsible parties. Since they’ve been searching her cars, devices, house etc., and she herself seems to believe she is a POI, I am inclined to believe they are investigating her without naming her a POI. But you’re right, LE has not named her a POI. They may do that all in one swoop when they arrest her imho.
 
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Snipped from the Crimeonline part 2 article:

That morning, Stauch said she picked up her husband at the Colorado Springs airport; both left the airport in the rental car, she claimed.

Gannon Stauch: Stepmom explains rental car as search for missing Colorado boy continues [EXCLUSIVE PART 2]
looking for an earlier report which may have stated that military arranged an emergency flight home for him in a Red Cross plane. I searched for this today on google, I didn't find it, but I have a feeling it was Fox2 which is geoblocked to me and I can only see it if someone downloads film or text? Any way to get hold of it?
 
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im just wondering how the SM knows Gannon is still alive and out there? Everytime I read a interview from her that's what she says,does she not realize its been over a month, why would she think that at all?
A 11 year old out on his own in that weather doesn't have much of a chance to survive this long, ugh she makes me so mad!


Liars can appear confident about false things when know they are the only ones who have the correct information. A much more convincing statement would be “Why are you saying Gannon is dead? We have HOPE that he is alive. We BELIEVE we will find him alive.” Because if he is missing- and you truly
have no idea where he is- you can’t be positive that he is alive. But if you know otherwise, and you know that no one on earth can prove you wrong, you can confidently say the opposite without fear. That was a huge red flag to me, too, the first time I saw the interview.
 
  • #876
looking for an earlier report which may have stated that military arranged an emergency flight home for him in a Red Cross plane. I searched for this today on google, I didn't find it, but I have a feeling it was Fox2 which is geoblocked to me and I can only see it if someone downloads film or text? Any way to get hold of it?
I tried but not seeing that on Fox2 or any other news search.
 
  • #877
"If" Tee is still staying at a Hotel I wonder how it's being paid for. This could go on for months. Maybe her "supporters" are helping her out.

I am so intrigued by this question. If "supporters" are helping her out, that's not going to last forever. I do wonder if LE is watching closely to see how she handles the end of whatever resources (credit cards?) that she has. Meanwhile, I picture AS carefully disentangling his finances from hers.

If and when she loses her current housing, I expect we'll see more statements.
 
  • #878
Both pickup and return have been blocked out, without notice of retraction (which journalists are supposed to do - they never completely disown things they've written, they just admit mistakes...)

However, many of us saw or downloaded the original. There's now a discrepancy between what TS originally released (unredacted version) and what crimeonline is saying about her pickup/dropoff points.

Note that this is a tried and true tactic used to divide the public/audiences. '

Also, there's no mention anywhere on crimeonline of what car TS took to the airport. And now the crimeonline article reports a different place of pickup than that listed on the original receipt.

I saw the original as well, when Leigh Egan @leighEg was here last night, and the pickup location was CS airport - which is what the article still says. So maybe I'm confused by what you're saying?

Member @Kyte posted the 1st version of the receipt with the pick-up location clearly showing. That post is here:
CO - CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #22

It was Leigh, on here last night, that said TS drove her own car, to the airport. That post is here:
CO - CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #22
 
  • #879
I don’t really get the necessity for LS to rent a car when they had 3 vehicles available. I’m really confused about it actually. Imo her reasoning for it is complete BS. Who cares if GS saw them and ran from the car then they would see him running from the car and find him. She also rented it a few hours earlier than AS’s flight arrival. Was it then when she drove it around disposing of possible evidence? .

I'm with you. And to rent a subcompact car...with the bad weather that had just blown in, when you have truck and SUV at your disposal..
 
  • #880
bbm


She's his step-mother so why wouldn't TS want to believe GS is alive? Do you think LH wants to believe GS is alive? I hope that wouldn't make you mad.

Whether we like it or not TS has not been named as a POI nor as a SUSPECT. Her words and actions are perceived as contradictory, questionable, but we have yet to see evidence of guilt. The circumstantial is incomplete to date. Assumptions are not enough for me. I need to see more, noting my reasonable doubt regarding the RD video.

I see where you're coming from but what I find disturbing is that she hasn't demonstrated any real concern for his safety. It's common for parents in similar situations to cling to any hope that the child is still alive despite the odds, but that leads to obvious anguish because it's upsetting to imagine the child being held captive or in distress somewhere. The inconsistencies in her stories and nonchalant, unconcerned attitude about whatever happened to him concern me. I don't think I've ever seen a caregiver claiming innocence be this unhelpful in a missing child case, other than Casey Anthony, and I've personally seen family members of missing people say and do some bizarre things out of grief and anxiety.
 
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