Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #4

[Rush4087]

I doubt it. I don't think Kyron Horman's SM thought about it ahead of time either. Sometimes a SM maybe just doesn't like a kid much and one day he/she puts her overthe edge and something bad happens. Really how many people think about k!!!ing a kid? I bet not very many

I do think premeditation, only because of Gannon's slow walk, seemingly bent posture and the fact that he got into the back seat (I presume, to lay down). So something had to have happened to him before they left the house in order to make to the trip mandatory. I think that was all planned.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I reckon most definitely the time and date info was scrubbed on tonight's releases. All the stills from last night from same guy's footage was dated and timed. But not necessarily relevant to what appears to have been the key evidence.

I noticed there was no sound too, as Rodderick Drayton stated his camera picks up sound real well. I bet it's not just what's seen, but what's heard too.
I hope that's kept for LEO. That could be what the crucial part is.
MOO

 

[LietKynes]

That bag is still there, the photo is from after the (insert appropriate word, cos I hesitate)

"Disappearance" ?
"Possible Murder" ?
"Poisoning" ?

We know now that Gannon did not "run away".
His dad believes this as well.
He said that the step mom lied.
And that's good enough for me.

 

[LietKynes]

Unless she passed him off to someone we know he’s within a two hour range of his house.
Someplace VERY familiar to SM with close to zero traffic

This ^^^

 

[MassGuy]

I do think premeditation, only because of Gannon's slow walk, seemingly bent posture and the fact that he got into the back seat (I presume, to lay down). So something had to have happened to him before they left the house in order to make to the trip mandatory. I think that was all planned.

Yeah. I think she lost her temper, and injured Gannon to a point that it would be obvious.

She then may have decided that in order to cover up that abuse, she had to make sure Gannon went away.

She may not have wanted the school, or her husband to find out. So yeah, premeditation.

 

[cass523]

Live now

 

[jillycat]

bbm
You put that very well.

Would like to 'eat some crow' if it meant Gannon was ok but being held by someone, in order for step mom to exact revenge; and I was wrong.
The fact that she took him somewhere and didn't bring him back would be kidnapping at the very least.
So she's in hot water regardless.

I am so sorry for your loss !

That’s kind, thank you.
I was sorry to see anyone here taking a beating for expressing hope, or seeing alternative scenarios, as if that equals a lesser mind than that of rigid fact lovers.

And I’m right there with ya, I’d like to be wrong too, for sure.

 

[firebird]

I do think premeditation, only because of Gannon's slow walk, seemingly bent posture and the fact that he got into the back seat (I presume, to lay down). So something had to have happened to him before they left the house in order to make to the trip mandatory. I think that was all planned.

Everything about that video looks within the realm of normal to me. Teen boys slouch and they ride in the back. The only real issue, imo, would be if the SM came back without him (which she appears to have done) and had no explanation for where he was between her returning home apparently without him and him later going to a friend's house. This is also consistent with the Dad's supposed concerned that the SM lied about the timing of the walk to the friend's house. This also assumes that the video is on the day of the disappearance and not some other day, and that it is a complete video of all relevant movements. The rest of this thread is making me

 

[kittythehare]

I noticed there was no sound too, as Rodderick Drayton stated his camera picks up sound real well. I bet it's not just what's seen, but what's heard too.
I hope that's kept for LEO. That could be what the crucial part is.
MOO

Not crucial enough to effect an arrest, unfortunately. But might be enough for kidnapping...I'm more interested in locating him than I am in somebody getting arrested. If somebody gets arrested, we may never find him. That may be why LE are hesitant.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I noticed there was no sound too, as Rodderick Drayton stated his camera picks up sound real well. I bet it's not just what's seen, but what's heard too.
I hope that's kept for LEO. That could be what the crucial part is.
MOO

Imo
It’s crucial that the boy never returned to the house making SM earlier version A LIE

 

[kittythehare]

Everything about that video looks within the realm of normal to me. Teen boys slouch and they ride in the back. The only real issue, imo, would be if the SM came back without him (which she appears to have done) and had no explanation for where he was between her returning home apparently without him and him later going to a friend's house. This is also consistent with the Dad's supposed concerned that the SM lied about the timing of the walk to the friend's house. This also assumes that the video is on the day of the disappearance and not some other day, and that it is a complete video of all relevant movements. The rest of this thread is making me

The video without the abc report is meaningless. It only has context within that report.

 

[LadyL]

There was allegedly a Google search that inquired if parents could find him if his phone was off.

This appeared in an early missing poster, and has yet to be verified.

It does explain why law enforcement would quickly characterize him as being a runaway, so I believe this search happened.

What I don’t believe, is that Gannon did it.

ah yes I remember that
I was thinking in terms of stepmom's phone

 

[Linda7NJ]

Not crucial enough to effect an arrest, unfortunately. But might be enough for kidnapping...I'm more interested in locating him than I am in somebody getting arrested. If somebody gets arrested, we may never find him. That may be why LE are hesitant.

They need enough evidence to secure a conviction. If they arrest her now, the clock begins. She could demand a speedy trial. Prosecutors have to be confident in the evidence and it must be enough to convince a jury

 

[SuziQ]

I’m posting before getting completely caught up here, so I apologize if this has already been discussed! But I was thinking along somewhat similar lines. Maybe he had a concussion (caused by SM) and was vomiting. They left the house with her intending to take him to ER, but he died before getting there? So she did a cover-up?

It still doesn’t explain a lot of it (call for Miralax, etc.) but him getting in the car alive but never coming home has my original ideas shot. So I’m trying to imagine something other than completely premeditated murder (which it could be, but I had originally imagined an “accident.”)

It only takes a split second to form premeditation. And the death of a child during the act of child abuse is Murder one. Even if there was no formed intent to commit murder.

IMO, SM will probably go down for premeditated murder one.

 

[Knox]

The only sure facts we know are Gannon is gone right ? LE hasn’t confirmed much which is not out of the ordinary - they haven’t revealed or confirmed much in their pressers IMO

So true. The point of being here is to discuss facts, but also to offer possible theories. We all have different life experiences which color our POV's. This is the beauty of coming together in a community like WS. What one doesn't think of, another will

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Not crucial enough to effect an arrest, unfortunately. But might be enough for kidnapping...I'm more interested in locating him than I am in somebody getting arrested. If somebody gets arrested, we may never find him. That may be why LE are hesitant.

Right. If only the people who know would speak up this could all be over,and Gannon will be found. The pressure of keeping secrets would be lifted. MOO

 

[LietKynes]

Everything about that video looks within the realm of normal to me. Teen boys slouch and they ride in the back. The only real issue, imo, would be if the SM came back without him (which she appears to have done) and had no explanation for where he was between her returning home apparently without him and him later going to a friend's house. This is also consistent with the Dad's supposed concerned that the SM lied about the timing of the walk to the friend's house. This also assumes that the video is on the day of the disappearance and not some other day, and that it is a complete video of all relevant movements. The rest of this thread is making me

emph. mine

Gannon is 11; so not a teen.
Still a boy.
And it appeared like he was moving very slowly almost hesitating.
Seemed frightened or ill.
Very concerning.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

To date, investigators have received 184 tips to the dedicated tip line.

“It just got to me because I know how it is to be missing a child and not know where they are, not know where to look, which way to go so I decided to jump in and help,” said Angie Hampt.

Hampt’s 12-year-old son, Hunter, has autism. He has disappeared many times before. Like Gannon, Hunter relies on medication. Hapmt felt obligated to help however she could.

She is a local prospector and recruited other colleagues to search. On Saturday, they searched the Garden of the Gods and Cheyenne Canyon.
Volunteers Scour Area For Gannon Stauch Out Of 'Compassion & Empathy'

 

[catch_22]

This doesn't prove anything, but why would she drag a sick child out with her to run errands? I know he is only 11, but that seems old enough to leave home alone for an hour or two.

 

[firebird]

The video without the abc report is meaningless. It only has context within that report.

Which ABC report, please