Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #5

[jillycat]

Well, this is strange...

So, very weird moment at #GannonStauch’s home. The garage was left open for about a half hour (I think on accident) then three officers went in with flashlights.

Then, screaming.

I personally heard someone yell angrily “WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE,” but not 100% sure.

Spencer Wilson on Twitter

He tweeted a follow up... LE saw the garage door open and was shutting it for the people in the home, and it scared them. I don’t understand why people are there with crime lab? Unless the family was out, it’s cleared now, and they came back.

 

[mustloveco]

@Nursebarb — this is what it could look like with Barr Trail (in Manitou, near GoG) as the hiking spot.

I also deleted the Las Vegas St. & Go (since I have been just speculating on this area, since it’s where they moved the command center, but SM never has mentioned) .

1 hr 20 min RT

 

[catch_22]

@Nursebarb — this is what it could look like with Barr Trail (in Manitou, near GoG) as the hiking spot.

I also deleted the Las Vegas St. & Go (since I have been just speculating on this area, since it’s where they moved the command center, but SM never has mentioned) .

1 hr 20 min RT

Yeah, i think "barr trail" is the correct one

 

[PrayingForMissing]

Barr Lake trail , near Brighton, CO? Or just Barr trail ?? (Which is near Manitou/close to springs)

I think she means Barr Trail.

 

[Sillybilly]

So I am seeing a lot of theories from Social media being snuck in here disguised as a legit post to start that discussion here. Can we not do that? Please? Can we leave the garbage out there? Thank you.

I'm alerting a mod to my post so they can investigate. My post will probably go poof.

Please Report each one as you see them. It is most definitely not allowed and members who do so are subject to a temporary or permanent loss of posting privileges.

 

[Truthbetold77]

I don't see why not. Please keep in mind, don't name minors since they have not been named in MSM, ( main stream media) use only what the MSM has offered and if you say something that "you think" or "your opinion"add IMO ( in my opinion) at the end of your post. If you found something in the news, please add that site as well. OH AND WELCOME!

Welcome to WS!

Sincerest apologies ahead of time I am definitely not trying to offend anyone with this Theory. It is only based on the "facts"of what we know.
*According to the step mother's interview. Sunday was a complete Alibi of Garden of the Gods and Burger King She makes sure that we definitely know. These two things for Sunday, including bringing her daughter into the mix( Which sounded like a coaching IMO ) to confirm her statement Which was extremely self-centered. And highly defensed.IMO
* At around 10:30 10:40 Sunday night. The dad received a text message telling him to please not be mad, but Gannon burnt some carpet and he was scared and sorry.
The next morning. He stays home sick from school and the mother texts. Her friend or family member that she had to take him to the doctor because he had a stomach ache.
* at 10:15 Monday morning according to the neighbors video surveillance footage it shows her in a child supposedly Gannon. Getting into her red truck after she backs it into a driveway with her truck bed into the garage. The child stumbles up to the truck. She helps the child in. And then she leaves. a phone recorded Source mentioned that the video footage that we have seen is not all the footage that they have.

Here's where my theory starts to play in
I am wondering if something happened Sunday night. I'm wondering if that is also on the video footage. In my opinion and in my hypothetical Theory (Which I pray to God isn't the case, but I don't even know what case would be good or bad at the moment cuz it's all bad.) I believe that maybe Gannon was playing in the front yard. In the step sister came home from work. And accidentally ran him over with the car. And that was also caught on video. Maybe they brought him back into the house on the carpet and he got blood on the carpet. And the stepmother was too scared to take him to the hospital. Or maybe the possibility that the Stepmom came home drunk or something. And hit him. I don't know. This is just a hypothetical Theory. And maybe she burnt the carpet herself to try and Destroy blood evidence. And even ripped it up. He might have been critically critically injured. He might have even passed. That night. And then there's an alternate Theory. That he did survive into the morning and she was going to take him to the hospital. And he died on the way to the hospital. . And she didn't want to be charged with child abuse. There has been speculation that she checked her daughter out of school that Monday morning. I am not sure of the facts here. So this might be far-fetched. But according to the neighbor's surveillance footage she backs her car up into the garage. Gets out goes inside. And then get back in her car and wait for"gannon" To get into the vehicle. Do you think that she went inside and then put his body into the bed of the truck where you can't see because it's in the garage. And the footage is so grainy. Are you sure that's Gannon and not her daughter dressed and maybe one of Gannon is outfits. ? I really don't know because I haven't seen the footage clear enough to know if it was him or not. The latter theory is probably. More possible due to the fact that when she returns home. She doesn't come back with any children at all. According to other sources she rented a car on that Monday, although I am not sure of the video footage, but I don't remember hearing about the car coming back to the home. Is it possible that she rented the vehicle? And park it somewhere else and transported the body from the truck to the vehicle and then use the vehicle. To take him to the coroner's office, according to the car's GPS the one on Las Vegas Road.
I know she worked for the school district, and I'm wondering if she had access to City keys. Or maybe there is someone else. That is part of this case that works at the coroner's office. Now this might be extremely horrible to Fathom this possibility and it's crazy But what if she cremated him? And I know that this might even sound crazier. But What if that's why Public Works was at their house searching the drains. Maybe she poured his ashes down them. maybe someone Finally spoke up and said that she dumped his ashes down a drain and so now they're searching drains.? I don't know. I know all of this sounds crazy and it is 100% hypothetical and I feel terrible even writing these things but we've all been sitting here discussing this and it just kind of all starts to make sense when it didn't before and God I hope I'm wrong.
Again, this is all hypothetical. And I really really hope I'm wrong.
IMO

 

[Truthbetold77]

Sincerest apologies ahead of time I am definitely not trying to offend anyone with this Theory. It is only based on the "facts"of what we know.
*According to the step mother's interview. Sunday was a complete Alibi of Garden of the Gods and Burger King She makes sure that we definitely know. These two things for Sunday, including bringing her daughter into the mix( Which sounded like a coaching IMO ) to confirm her statement Which was extremely self-centered. And highly defensed.IMO
* At around 10:30 10:40 Sunday night. The dad received a text message telling him to please not be mad, but Gannon burnt some carpet and he was scared and sorry.
The next morning. He stays home sick from school and the mother texts. Her friend or family member that she had to take him to the doctor because he had a stomach ache.
* at 10:15 Monday morning according to the neighbors video surveillance footage it shows her in a child supposedly Gannon. Getting into her red truck after she backs it into a driveway with her truck bed into the garage. The child stumbles up to the truck. She helps the child in. And then she leaves.
* a phone recorded Source mentioned that the video footage that we have seen is not all the footage that they have.

Here's where my theory starts to play in
* I am wondering if something happened Sunday night. I'm wondering if that is also on the video footage. In my opinion and in my hypothetical Theory (Which I pray to God isn't the case, but I don't even know what case would be good or bad at the moment cuz it's all bad.) I believe that maybe Gannon was playing in the front yard. In the step sister came home from work. And accidentally ran him over with the car. And that was also caught on video. Maybe they brought him back into the house on the carpet and he got blood on the carpet. And the stepmother was too scared to take him to the hospital. Or maybe the possibility that the Stepmom came home drunk or something. And hit him. I don't know. This is just a hypothetical Theory. And maybe she burnt the carpet herself to try and Destroy blood evidence. And even ripped it up. He might have been critically critically injured. It might have even passed. That night. And then there's an alternate Theory. That he did survive into the morning and she was going to take him to the hospital. And he died on the way to the hospital. . And she didn't want to be charged with child abuse. There has been speculation that she checked her daughter out of school that Monday morning. I am not sure of the facts here. So this might be far-fetched. But according to the neighbor's surveillance footage she backs her car up into the garage. Gets out goes inside. And then get back in her car and wait for"gannon" To get into the vehicle. Do you think that she went inside and then put his body into the bed of the truck where you can't see because it's in the garage. And the footage is so grainy. Are you sure that's Gannon and not her daughter dressed and maybe one of Gannon is outfits. ? I really don't know because I haven't seen the footage clear enough to know if it was him or not. The ladder theory is probably. More possible due to the fact that when she returns home. She doesn't come back with any children at all. According to other sources she rented a car on that Monday, although I am not sure of the video footage, but I don't remember hearing about the car coming back to the home. Is it possible that she rented the vehicle? And park it somewhere else and transported the body from the truck to the vehicle and then use the vehicle. To take him to the coroner's office, according to the car's GPS the one on Las Vegas Road.
I know she worked for the school district, and I'm wondering if she had access to City keys. Or maybe there is someone else. That is part of this case that works at the coroner's office. Now this might be extremely horrible to Fathom this possibility and it's crazy but But if she cremated him?

It was mentioned that Public Works was At the house this evening. I hope she didn't dump His ashes down the drain. I know it all sounds absolutely insane. But I'm just going off of facts. In my opinion, hypothetically

 

[Cornloaf]

So did the landlords, or the tenants have access to the cameras? Or did the tenants buy them themselves?

How often do you have to change the batteries?
(I'm thinking about getting one)

They are all owned by my company and the landlords do not have access. That holds true for my work and personal Ring devices.

As for the charging, one of my offices has so much traffic that it need charging every 10 days. The office I work from needs charging every 5-6 weeks. I just got the newest unit that has a removable rechargeable battery so there is no downtime. They also make a solar panel that mounts on the bracket so you never have to charge it. Unfortunately my offices have glass and metal frames that will not support that module.

 

[GordianKnot]

Sincerest apologies ahead of time I am definitely not trying to offend anyone with this Theory. It is only based on the "facts"of what we know.
*According to the step mother's interview. Sunday was a complete Alibi of Garden of the Gods and Burger King She makes sure that we definitely know. These two things for Sunday, including bringing her daughter into the mix( Which sounded like a coaching IMO ) to confirm her statement Which was extremely self-centered. And highly defensed.IMO
* At around 10:30 10:40 Sunday night. The dad received a text message telling him to please not be mad, but Gannon burnt some carpet and he was scared and sorry.
The next morning. He stays home sick from school and the mother texts. Her friend or family member that she had to take him to the doctor because he had a stomach ache.
* at 10:15 Monday morning according to the neighbors video surveillance footage it shows her in a child supposedly Gannon. Getting into her red truck after she backs it into a driveway with her truck bed into the garage. The child stumbles up to the truck. She helps the child in. And then she leaves.
* a phone recorded Source mentioned that the video footage that we have seen is not all the footage that they have.

Here's where my theory starts to play in
* I am wondering if something happened Sunday night. I'm wondering if that is also on the video footage. In my opinion and in my hypothetical Theory (Which I pray to God isn't the case, but I don't even know what case would be good or bad at the moment cuz it's all bad.) I believe that maybe Gannon was playing in the front yard. In the step sister came home from work. And accidentally ran him over with the car. And that was also caught on video. Maybe they brought him back into the house on the carpet and he got blood on the carpet. And the stepmother was too scared to take him to the hospital. Or maybe the possibility that the Stepmom came home drunk or something. And hit him. I don't know. This is just a hypothetical Theory. And maybe she burnt the carpet herself to try and Destroy blood evidence. And even ripped it up. He might have been critically critically injured. It might have even passed. That night. And then there's an alternate Theory. That he did survive into the morning and she was going to take him to the hospital. And he died on the way to the hospital. . And she didn't want to be charged with child abuse. There has been speculation that she checked her daughter out of school that Monday morning. I am not sure of the facts here. So this might be far-fetched. But according to the neighbor's surveillance footage she backs her car up into the garage. Gets out goes inside. And then get back in her car and wait for"gannon" To get into the vehicle. Do you think that she went inside and then put his body into the bed of the truck where you can't see because it's in the garage. And the footage is so grainy. Are you sure that's Gannon and not her daughter dressed and maybe one of Gannon is outfits. ? I really don't know because I haven't seen the footage clear enough to know if it was him or not. The ladder theory is probably. More possible due to the fact that when she returns home. She doesn't come back with any children at all. According to other sources she rented a car on that Monday, although I am not sure of the video footage, but I don't remember hearing about the car coming back to the home. Is it possible that she rented the vehicle? And park it somewhere else and transported the body from the truck to the vehicle and then use the vehicle. To take him to the coroner's office, according to the car's GPS the one on Las Vegas Road.
I know she worked for the school district, and I'm wondering if she had access to City keys. Or maybe there is someone else. That is part of this case that works at the coroner's office. Now this might be extremely horrible to Fathom this possibility and it's crazy but But if she cremated him?

Welcome to Websleuths!

Thanks for sharing your theory…you've clearly given GS's disappearance a lot of thought.

I'll speak to your last point, and hopefully it will help to put at least some of your fears to rest.

I do not for one moment believe that TS has access to the coroner's office.
She wouldn't have access to it even if she did work for the school district.
The school district is not affiliated with the coroner's office in any way.

Even if TS had access to the coroner's office through some other means, the coroner isn't the one who cremates remains.

The coroner performs the post-mortem exam to determine cause of death and then releases the remains.

You can safely X out that possibility from your mental list, as it really is impossible.

Hope that helps puts your mind at ease on that particular point, at least!

JMO.

 

[catch_22]

Sincerest apologies ahead of time I am definitely not trying to offend anyone with this Theory. It is only based on the "facts"of what we know.
*According to the step mother's interview. Sunday was a complete Alibi of Garden of the Gods and Burger King She makes sure that we definitely know. These two things for Sunday, including bringing her daughter into the mix( Which sounded like a coaching IMO ) to confirm her statement Which was extremely self-centered. And highly defensed.IMO
* At around 10:30 10:40 Sunday night. The dad received a text message telling him to please not be mad, but Gannon burnt some carpet and he was scared and sorry.
The next morning. He stays home sick from school and the mother texts. Her friend or family member that she had to take him to the doctor because he had a stomach ache.
* at 10:15 Monday morning according to the neighbors video surveillance footage it shows her in a child supposedly Gannon. Getting into her red truck after she backs it into a driveway with her truck bed into the garage. The child stumbles up to the truck. She helps the child in. And then she leaves. a phone recorded Source mentioned that the video footage that we have seen is not all the footage that they have.

Here's where my theory starts to play in
I am wondering if something happened Sunday night. I'm wondering if that is also on the video footage. In my opinion and in my hypothetical Theory (Which I pray to God isn't the case, but I don't even know what case would be good or bad at the moment cuz it's all bad.) I believe that maybe Gannon was playing in the front yard. In the step sister came home from work. And accidentally ran him over with the car. And that was also caught on video. Maybe they brought him back into the house on the carpet and he got blood on the carpet. And the stepmother was too scared to take him to the hospital. Or maybe the possibility that the Stepmom came home drunk or something. And hit him. I don't know. This is just a hypothetical Theory. And maybe she burnt the carpet herself to try and Destroy blood evidence. And even ripped it up. He might have been critically critically injured. He might have even passed. That night. And then there's an alternate Theory. That he did survive into the morning and she was going to take him to the hospital. And he died on the way to the hospital. . And she didn't want to be charged with child abuse. There has been speculation that she checked her daughter out of school that Monday morning. I am not sure of the facts here. So this might be far-fetched. But according to the neighbor's surveillance footage she backs her car up into the garage. Gets out goes inside. And then get back in her car and wait for"gannon" To get into the vehicle. Do you think that she went inside and then put his body into the bed of the truck where you can't see because it's in the garage. And the footage is so grainy. Are you sure that's Gannon and not her daughter dressed and maybe one of Gannon is outfits. ? I really don't know because I haven't seen the footage clear enough to know if it was him or not. The latter theory is probably. More possible due to the fact that when she returns home. She doesn't come back with any children at all. According to other sources she rented a car on that Monday, although I am not sure of the video footage, but I don't remember hearing about the car coming back to the home. Is it possible that she rented the vehicle? And park it somewhere else and transported the body from the truck to the vehicle and then use the vehicle. To take him to the coroner's office, according to the car's GPS the one on Las Vegas Road.
I know she worked for the school district, and I'm wondering if she had access to City keys. Or maybe there is someone else. That is part of this case that works at the coroner's office. Now this might be extremely horrible to Fathom this possibility and it's crazy But what if she cremated him? And I know that this might even sound crazier. But What if that's why Public Works was at their house searching the drains. Maybe she poured his ashes down them. maybe someone Finally spoke up and said that she dumped his ashes down a drain and so now they're searching drains.? I don't know. I know all of this sounds crazy and it is 100% hypothetical and I feel terrible even writing these things but we've all been sitting here discussing this and it just kind of all starts to make sense when it didn't before and God I hope I'm wrong.
Again, this is all hypothetical. And I really really hope I'm wrong.
IMO

OMG

I think you cracked it

I'm calling the tipline.

J/k. A lot to swallow there. Some things seem plausible, some....not so much. I don't think I've been here long enough to give you much advice, or feedback.

My motto is: when in doubt, read some more

 

[MassGuy]

Anyone caught abusing a child faces consequences, but those consequences are greater for others.

Someone in the education field for instance, may very well find themselves unable to work in their profession ever again.

That’s why the best motive that I can come up with at this point, is a murder to cover up an act of abuse.

It’s possible that SM killed Gannon to silence him for some reason, or to punish his father. But I think those options, or any other option, is less likely than an attempt to save herself from being exposed.

I think she hurt him, and knew she couldn’t explain it away.

 

[jillycat]

I do believe that what happened to Gannon started or escalated on Sunday. And think the doctor/medication story was a piece of something related to creating a cover or the appearance of being the good caretaker.

I also firmly believe that people on the Cluster B spectrum, particularly on the Narc spectrum, constantly project. So when she said she’d taken care of Gannon for two years because his mother didn’t want to, I think she was telling her own story, and is the one who didn’t want to. She sounded resentful to me and like someone who wanted attention for the care she’d provided. Her past tense references about him are chilling.

 

[Truthbetold77]

Welcome to Websleuths!

Thanks for sharing your theory…you've clearly given GS's disappearance a lot of thought.

I'll speak to your last point, and hopefully it will help to put at least some of your fears to rest.

I do not for one moment believe that TS has access to the coroner's office.
She wouldn't have access even if she did work for the school district.
The school district is not affiliated with the coroner's office in any way.

Even if TS had access to the coroner's office through some other means, the coroner isn't the one who cremates remains.

The coroner performs the post-mortem exam to determine cause of death and then releases the remains.

You can safely X out that possibility from your mental list.

Hope that helps puts your mind at ease on that point, at least!

JMO.

Yes, thank you for explaining that to me. We were getting very hypothetical but things just started making sense.( In our websleuths minds )But of course, we don't want to start any weird conspiracy theories. Nowadays unfortunately it seems like there's always horrible homicides and missing children and the case is surrounding them. Are more far-fetched. Then the movies. But I guess hopefully we'll find out tomorrow with an updated press conference. It's just a baffling case. It's so horrible and heartbreaking.

 

[MassGuy]

I do believe that what happened to Gannon started or escalated on Sunday. And think the doctor/medication story was a piece of something related to creating a cover or the appearance of being the good caretaker.

I also firmly believe that people on the Cluster B spectrum, particularly on the Narc spectrum, constantly project. So when she said she’d taken care of Gannon for two years because his mother didn’t want to, I think she was telling her own story, and is the one who didn’t want to. She sounded resentful to me and like someone who wanted attention for the care she’d provided. Her past tense references about him are chilling.

Speaking specifically to your last point (because it’s incredibly important), I absolutely agree.

I think she started that interview by making an effort to speak about Gannon in the present tense. She was able to pull that off, but only briefly.

She suddenly pivoted to the past tense, which was telling.

 

[hotsytotsy]

Anyone caught abusing a child faces consequences, but those consequences are greater for others.

Someone in the education field for instance, may very well find themselves unable to work in their profession ever again.

That’s why the best motive that I can come up with at this point, is a murder to cover up an act of abuse.

It’s possible that SM killed Gannon to silence him for some reason, or to punish his father. But I think those options, or any other option, is less likely than an attempt to save herself from being exposed.

I think she hurt him, and knew she couldn’t explain it away.

Same.

 

[Cindizzi]

It was mentioned that Public Works was At the house this evening. I hope she didn't dump His ashes down the drain. I know it all sounds absolutely insane. But I'm just going off of facts. In my opinion, hypothetically

The El Paso County Department of Public Works was NOT at the house tonight. They are listed on a press release as one of the agencies working in partnership with El Paso County Sheriff Department.
They would have nothing do with residential. They are in charge of storm drains and basins. JMO they probably helped with the search.

 

[Truthbetold77]

OMG

I think you cracked it

I'm calling the tipline.

J/k. A lot to swallow there. Some things seem plausible, some....not so much. I don't think I've been here long enough to give you much advice, or feedback.

My motto is: when in doubt, read some more

Lol yeah its definately a theory, Just wanted to get some feedback about it. Trust me. I have plenty more but I won't be sharing them all, LOL. And that theory could be one hundred percent wrong. 99% odds that it is. All we can do is pray that Gannon comes home.

 

[Winterhike]

I do believe that what happened to Gannon started or escalated on Sunday. And think the doctor/medication story was a piece of something related to creating a cover or the appearance of being the good caretaker.

I also firmly believe that people on the Cluster B spectrum, particularly on the Narc spectrum, constantly project. So when she said she’d taken care of Gannon for two years because his mother didn’t want to, I think she was telling her own story, and is the one who didn’t want to. She sounded resentful to me and like someone who wanted attention for the care she’d provided. Her past tense references about him are chilling.

BBM. I strongly agree. I think this aligns with what she said when asked if she had a message for Gannon. Not anything along the lines of true concern for his welfare but basically (paraphrasing here): "I'm looking forward to him apologizing to me for all my suffering during this ordeal." The mind boggles, truly.

I'm still in the camp that as recently as that interview, she truly thought the runaway story was believable and so I think that Gannon will be located relatively nearby.

 

[Nursebarb]

I think she means Barr Trail.

Yes Barr Trail

 

[MassGuy]

BBM. I strongly agree. I think this aligns with what she said when asked if she had a message for Gannon. Not anything along the lines of true concern for his welfare but basically (paraphrasing here): "I'm looking forward to him apologizing to me for all my suffering during this ordeal." The mind boggles, truly.

I'm still in the camp that as recently as that interview, she truly thought the runaway story was believable and so I think that Gannon will be located relatively nearby.

Well is clear that she lacks any self awareness.

She actually conducted that interview in order to improve her public perception. Not only did that backfire, but it helped to solidify her being a suspect in many people’s minds.

The question as to where Gannon is, comes down to what she was trying to achieve.

Did she hope that his body would turn up, and be in a condition that indicated that he ran away and succumbed to the elements?

Or was she hoping that he’d never be found, and the runaway story would stand?