Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #6

[EYEsuspect]

Oh thank you so much!!! I had thought it was a single entrance... yuck.

Just clarifying... There is one single entrance at Fontaine into the ENTIRE Lorson Ranch development, Carriage Meadows branches off of Fontaine and leads to S family home on Mandan.

IMO

 

[swanniee11]

It was enough to arrest Casey Anthony.

right? and look where she's at! Don't get me started on that whole mess. SMH

 

[Bravo]

HLN to cover after the break. I'm sure nothing new but good it's still getting attention

 

[Cool Cats]

Do police ask Tesla owners to review their roadway footage? How long is that stored? Just another thought, if you have a dash cam or car camera system, it's a good idea to look. The truck would be easy to spot.

Wow. Thankx for bringing that up as a possibility. I think of private homes, business parking lots, churches, traffic intersections, etc.. when I think of checking security footage - but totally miss thinking about people's car dash cams.

I'm getting one. In this day and age it pays to be vigilant, especially with so much
litigation going on towards one another. Keep your T's crossed and your I's dotted ya'all....

 

[GordianKnot]

Did we ever hear the 911 call?

BBM:

Nope.

And we likely won't, since it's part of the active investigation.

JMO.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Did we ever hear the 911 call?

I don’t believe it has been released yet.

 

[PrayingForMissing]

Motive....

People ALWAYS have a reason.

I think we can safely cross off running away. So GANNON had no motive. (Bless is precious heart. That video of him gaming, what a happy kid!)

That leaves us with somebody else did something. We have a pretty good idea who the somebody is. Let's look at something. I want to know WHY.

Accidental.

Intentional.

Was it personal or was Gannon merely a means toward an ends for her? Healthy, sick, all the social media rumors aside, we are fairly confident he was healthy enough to hike on Sunday, alive and well. Last seen, we believe about 10:15 Monday morning. Alive. Those details seem pretty solid.

Did she disappear him in an attempt to create a drama which would bring, she could've imagined, her husband CLOSER to her? I think it's worth noting that in the short term, it did work. He came right home. (Didn't work out right away after that, but if that was her goal, she reached it for a minute. )

Was it personal? Just didn't want to take care of THREE children anymore? Eliminated ons. As a motive this doesn't resonate.

Was it self-preservation? As many of you have theorized, was it to cover up something else? An accident? A punishment (gone too far)? an assault? The obvious question, was Gannon INJURED as he walked to the truck at 10:15 that morning? Was she afraid he'd TALK? If so, what would she have been afraid he'd say?

What happened that day? At 10:15. And when did it START?

MY question is where did the premeditation begin? Was any of this on her radar prior to Sunday/Monday?

I can't read her in the interview. Overly defensive, underly empathetic. Off. It's just not the interview you'd EXPECT.... so why? Interviews poorly, could be. Innocent and indignant, could be. Just doesn't SEEM to be.

I'm trying to figure out JUST HOW LONG a person had, to put together a disposal plan. Weeks? Days? A day? Hours? Before or after 10:15?

When TS got in the truck at 10:15, did she know exactly where she was going?

Just my opinions and questions.

All good questions and many that I have had as well!

The question about maybe she hoped AS would come right home and it would bring them closer. That makes me think.....would she not realize that LH would also come right out?

Is she expecting GS to be found, although passed already, but it looks like he really did run away, but succumbed to the elements, but expecting apologies as it will not look like she had anything to do with it and she *was* telling the truth? And AS will mourn, but they will move on eventually. JMO Or does she believe her own lies, after stating them enough out loud?

With so little information that we have, I'm leaning towards the self-preservation. Something happened. But I do think she was already stressed maybe. Can't link to why I feel that way, but I do. IMO And maybe that stress came out (accidentally?) on poor little GS somehow.

IMO

 

[Beth11311]

With the contents of the neighbor's video already in MSM, I am curious why LE hasn't made a plea for anyone who recalls seeing her or the truck on Monday from 10-2 to share that info.

RSBM

My guess would be they haven’t asked for tips on the truck because perhaps they already know where it was (whether via cell data tracking, cctv, or otherwise). And that knowledge may be what is dictating their current search locations.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

BBM:

Nope.

And we likely won't, since it's part of the active investigation.

JMO.

And it'll probably be a lot about herself with a small note about a missing kid

 

[SuziQ]

Colorado dirt is ALWAYS a pain to dig in, as it is mostly clay and hard as a rock. It was really warm on Sunday the 2nd and now it's freezing.

We had a cat pass away one year in February. We chose to put him in the ground of our backyard and my poor husband was back there digging for an eternity. He's a big guy and no stranger to manual labor and it was really difficult. Frozen ground IS a thing out here and in February you're going to have a hard time. The day Gannon went missing (well the Sunday before, so the day they went on a hike), I took my kids to the playground and was playing with the wood chips under the swings (my OCD likes having the wood chips all level under those swings!). Anyway, as nice as it was, I moved enough of the wood chips to find a layer of ice still there from our last snow which was weeks prior. While there may not be fresh snow, the spots that don't get a lot of sunlight will remain frozen.

We have the same terrain here in Utah. Gardening involves using a pick ax (sp).

An interesting bit of knowledge I have picked up over the years is, that even the most organized killer never seems to think about what to do with the body. They are so consumed with the killing, they don't think about how hard it is to get rid of a body. Sometimes we see several methods of disposal tried before they give up and leave the body covered in debris. It is almost impossible to cremate a body. It is not easy to dig a grave deep enough. And water reveals all eventually. If a killer is successful in hiding a body, it is usually because the location is so remote people don't come across it. IMO, by far the easiest and most effective method of disposal is a dumpster. I think this is because the killer is looking for a quick disposal method.

All MOO.

 

[HayLouise]

Just a quick little PSA for those following the #GannonStauch story. #FindGannon



Ashley Franco on Twitter

 

[Oregonmama]

Anyone good at creating maps? I am curious re the distance from hiking spots from the house.

 

[oviedo]

RSBM

My guess would be they haven’t asked for tips on the truck because perhaps they already know (whether via cell data tracking, cctv, or otherwise). And that knowledge may be what is dictating their current search locations.

that's what I'm thinking - they've had a few days to go through video on a suspected route - get her cell data possibly - I think they may find him (if he isn't in water) soon.
JMO

 

[MsBetsy]

BBM:

Nope.

And we likely won't, since it's part of the active investigation.

JMO.

I hope we do hear it eventually, though.
I would like to know when she gave them the information about the search on his phone.

 

[TwoBlueJays]

Consider: if that was LS and GS in the video; and she helped someone into the truck and they left; then she came back and we did not see GS or anyone else exiting the truck... this all happened during the day, 10-2, the busiest part of any weekday. Where would you be able to go to dispose of a person, if that's what she did, in broad daylight, middle of a Monday? People are incredibly nosy and oddly observant when you least expect it.
IMO, I do not think she expected to be caught; I don't think she probably thought any further than telling the lies and then AS would come back to her, marriage saved, etc. That's really messed up magical thinking.

 

[kittythehare]

What was it that the sheriff's office just put out? This is not a crime investigation it's a missing endangered child investigation? Was it something like that?

This makes me think strongly that whatever they found inside of that house, whatever they brought it out in bags, will later be used as evidence against her. I don't think they found a death evidence in that home. I think they found previous "incidents" which can all be looked at and found with a black light ( or luminal).

Previous "incidents meaning: previous cleaned up vomit, previous cleaned up with peroxide blood possibly from vomit, previous urinating spots-- such as when a child is locked in their bedroom and they have to go to the bathroom and there's no place to go. And or previous sweat, saliva or god forbid semen.

Granted human urine is a much more of a pale yellow than let's a dog or cat. In my cleaning company I use black lights quite a bit.

I thought they might have found implements of torture there.. a sadist's paradise...but my mind is running wild cos we have no information and I'm tired of speculating. I don't blame LE for that, I respect it.
But, ultimately blame must be apportioned and the adults in this little fellow's life all contributed to this outcome without necessarily being directly responsible.

 

[Oregonmama]

I hope we do hear it eventually, though.
I would like to know when she gave them the information about the search on his phone.

At the trial and I would love to see more video as well. I suspect LE must have more video security coverage. JMO

 

[kittythehare]

A lot of time unfortunately was missed in this case. Sad. JMO

That's the killer here.
That is the bit that says there is a strong possibility he may never be found.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Is that red pick up still at the house or is TS driving it?

 

[wishBones1962]

we know very little about this woman who was allegedly the last to see him...
Did she associate with any groups that may be helping her hide him?
She strode out of that house that morning fast and determined....
I doubt she would have needed help to kill him but she would have to keep him alive...
Did she belong to any unusual organisations anything out of the ordinary?
Social or spiritual or political?.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, ( cat typed last bit, might be a clue )

Just some thoughts....SM-LS...is not from the area. NC I think? They had only lived there for 2 yrs? She would be unfamiliar with the weather, the terrain, not likely to have a large group of acquaintances or friends.
If things happened the way people are guessing, she would have had only panic to work with. IMO MOO