Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #6

[Noharg]

Dbm

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

Since @BOSCOE said something about being a “triple Taurus” back on page 76 of the 3rd thread, I’ve been curiously wondering what TS’ (LS/SM - whatever initials you use) astrological sign is. And what her moon sign is.

There are some signs that I definitely do not like & am wondering if she is one of those. Curiosity killed the cat but satisfaction brought it back. JS.


Also, since I’ve only been on WS since October I don’t really know much about this entire process, I would also like to know IF we don’t get all the details between now & if/when GS is found & LE makes an arrest, will we get the details during or after the trial or no?

There’s a case local to me that lead me here, that is considered closed to the public. In cases like these will we ever truly know what was said/what transpired during the court sessions?

 

[Presley78]

I know TS said she wasn't staying at the house because the biological mom was there. But why wasn't she really there? Was there immediate tension between her and the father? Do we know anything about their relationship before GS went missing? Have the other children expressed concern of TS?
Sorry for the questions, I didn't learn of Gannon until 5 days in.

Not sure because nothing has been stated in the media or by police. I don’t even bother with Facebook because it’s a dumpster fire. Full of trolls sprinkling in their wacky theories. I too found it odd he kicked her out so quickly. As per her own words, her daughter had to buy underwear because they didn’t go back to the house. That leads me to believe it was a “Get out of my house now” type situation. No time to pack or else they would have had clothes for a few days.

 

[firebird]

He could have, but I doubt LE would remove so much evidence without a warrant, especially if some of those things belonged to TS.

I don't know about the cars.I know they towed the white car but I haven't heard anything about the truck or another car. I would assume they are part of the investigation, though.

Imo

Idk. Looks like the husband could consent. Especially if the stepmother didn't object.

Held:

1. When the prosecution seeks to justify a warrantless search by proof of voluntary consent, it is not limited to proof that consent was given by the defendant, but may show that permission to search was obtained from a third party who possessed common authority over or other sufficient relationship to the premises or effects sought to be inspected. Pp. 415 U. S. 169-172.

United States v. Matlock, 415 U.S. 164 (1974)

 

[Spartygirl]

Are there search warrants? I think only the dad and his ex are at the house now. Couldn't he have consented to the search?

They more than likely did consent, however in court, they would need proof of a warrant for reasons mentioned in the warrant.

 

[gitana1]

WOW. crazy. Glad you and pup survived. I don't think he ran off and met up with a Coyote either.
MOO

Me too. I talked about it with some folks on here after. I wasn't scared at the moment, felt super focused. But after when I realized nothing had really worked to make it leave (except being able to get into safety with other people in the tennis court), I was pretty shaken up.

On another subject, you know I'm going back to a week ago and some things may be worth a second look to make sure we have facts straight in this case.

In the presser on 1-30-20, the lead detective, who in retrospect seems SUPER sharp and very, easily cautious with his words, said the following:

1. The "reporting person" was interviewed when LE got to the house and the reporting person said Gannon had last been seen between 3-4 p.m. Monday. (Report was made at 6:55 p.m.). The father and bio mom were standing there with him. Does that mean neither of them were the reporting party or does it mean that LE doesn't want the public to know who called?

2. He said on 1-28-20 at 12:29 p.m., the case was turned over to "EPS"? Investigations. They began collecting information and conducting interviews. They collected information including video surveillance and neighborhood canvass info, followed up on leads and exploited various techniques and technology.

3. He said that on 1-29-20 into 1-30-20, based on information "gleaned from the investigation thus far" they changed Gannon's status from runaway to endangered missing. Later, when a reporter asks if that upgrade was because of the length of time that had passed, the investigator equivocates and states the weather, age, length of time, medication, etc., were a part of that. But I think his initial words were more telling.

4. He was asked if the SM was cooperating and said "At this point in time I can tell you that we are conducting numerous interviews and that each lead that we have is exhausted."

5. He was asked point blank if Gannon had been seen on any surveillance video. He replied, "At this point in time I can't clarify, uh, I can't confirm that any video surveillance we have been looking at has Gannon on it." (He did not say no).

6. They are looking at persons of interest.

More at link.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=173867893884848

 

[GordianKnot]

Word. For sure. But I don't know what kind of physical evidence would be left behind from her denying him something like an inhaler or a laxative, if any. We were wondering about what kind of things could have happened where there would be enough evidence for them to take out in bags, but still allow him to walk out to the truck.

A person can lose a lot of blood and still be mobile.

Wound could have been hours old, too, in which case there may have been a lot of blood loss without active bleeding at the time he went out to the truck.

JMO.

 

[gitana1]

They more than likely did consent, however in court, they would need proof of a warrant for reasons mentioned in the warrant.

Also, SM and her daughter's things were at the house. They would need a warrant to look at their things.

 

[Spartygirl]

My gut feeling with today's activities is that LE has a really good picture of what happened. Either someone has talked or the evidence is starting to paint a very clear picture.

It seems to me that they are targeting very specific things and going back to that pond with new equipment tells me they are fully expecting something to be found there.

I'm still very confused by the "no POI" and "not a criminal investigation" stuff but I pretty firmly believe that is being done to hold off social media frenzy.

Have there been any reports of the activities at the house today? I skimmed in catching up and didn't see anything but I may have missed it.

BBM-- I wondered that also as I didn't see anything today about them still being at the house, but I was really busy at work so may have missed it.

 

[Seattle1]

He could have, but I doubt LE would remove so much evidence without a warrant, especially if some of those things belonged to TS.

I don't know about the cars. I know they towed the white car but I haven't heard anything about the truck or another car. I would assume they are part of the investigation, though.
Imo

^^bbm

Who towed the white car and where was it towed? Was it confiscated/impound by LE ?-- That could never happen without a warrant!

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

If she did, there will be a record of it

Mom,and Dad would know too since he's their child. Their worry,and anguish leads me to think it's BS.
MOO

 

[gitana1]

Are there search warrants? I think only the dad and his ex are at the house now. Couldn't he have consented to the search?

Yes. And all three vehicles were taken. SM claims her daughter's keys were taken at gun point. Me thinks she and her daughter were uncooperative and began creating a scene and they had to secure them to execute the warrant.

Also, they are no longer at the house.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Media: Please do not reach out to any of our partners. Colorado Parks and Wildlife is one of our partners and is assisting us through Mutual Aid. We are the lead agency in this case, please contact the PIO(s)directly, either SGT Deb Mynatt or Manager Jackie Kirby. [URL='https://twitter.com/hashtag/FindGannon?src=hashtag_click']#FindGannon[/URL]


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[firebird]

Yes. And all three vehicles were taken. SM claims her daughter's keys were taken at gun point. Me thinks she and her daughter were uncooperative and began creating a scene and they had to secure them to execute the warrant.

Also, they are no longer at the house.

Thanks, but do you have a link. I'm not seeing a single thing about search warrants when I search. Like anywhere.

 

[Noharg]

BBM.

Yeah, that's untrue. There is absolutely a criminal investigation. You don't get search warrants unless there is a criminal investigation. And you can't get search warrants without probable cause that a crime occurred. And they got search warrants for the home, three vehicles, it appears and from what I can tell, for various electronics.

They have probable cause that a crime related to Gannon's disappearance occurred.

Also, the DA doesn’t come calling if there’s no criminal investigation.

JMO

 

[Winterhike]

Did you guys catch LS on her interview saying she wants an apology? Especially from her husband!!! That says a lot right there. He must know way more about what has happened. Also for a teacher she has lots of trouble putting sentences together that make sense... I have no idea what point she was trying to make at the end about people talking about her and her reputation and somehow this looks bad for a missing child. I played it like 3 times and still didn't get the connection.

Agreed. I hate when teachers are in the news looking and sounding like they can barely read. I can think of SEVERAL reasons why this lady shouldn't have a teaching license, and yet she does.

 

[Spartygirl]

Day or night, regardless of weather, we continue to search specific areas based on tips and leads in this investigation. The investigation and the search processes will continue to run parallel with one another in hopes of finding Gannon and bringing him home safely. #FindGannon


EPCSheriff on Twitter

Thank you for sharing these pictures
God Bless these searchers, LE, and all involved in looking for this precious boy.

 

[firebird]

^^bbm

Who towed the white car and where was it towed? Was it confiscated/impound by LE ?-- That could never happen without a warrant!

Could depend on why it was towed. If it wasn't the daughter's car (titled to her) and/or if it was removed for some other reason because, for example, they detained her for some other reason and she couldn't remove the car herself. I'm just not seeing anything at all about search warrants.

 

[wanenim]

A person can lose a lot of blood and still be mobile.

Wound could have been hours old, too, in which case there may have been a lot of blood loss without active bleeding at the time he went out to the truck.

JMO.

Yup. Agree completely

 

[lonetraveler]

Hello @lonetraveler

I have to admit, I thought they would find Gannon today.

jmo

I'm with you on that thought.