Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #7

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  • #261
It looks like she might have kicked the door open because she was holding a white rag in her hands. You can see it in her hands as she walks into the garage.
This was my thought too. I'm not very big, a little over 5 foot and truck doors are heavy. I have done exactly what she did a few times, not meaning to kick it open so hard, when my hands were full holding stuff while getting out of the truck. And my door will bounce a couple times and stop. I always cringe thinking I'm muscle woman and going to break the door lol. She either didn't mean to kick it open so hard or she had adrenaline going and was going b*lls to the wall.
 
  • #262
Oh yes, you guys are right it is the door, no legs/feet seen under the truck on the passenger side. Thank you WS'ers!!

It happens at 1:33 in the link on the way out as well.

OK - mea culpa. :oops: It does seem to be the drivers side door. I must watch myself for leaping to what appears to be new evidence. So desperate for a resolution.
 
  • #263
JMO TS took him as far as she could then gave him to her man friend and he took him even further away. It sickens me to think about but he could be in Mexico or California or Canada or who knows. My heart aches for his family.
what man friend? are you just speculating wildly? or have I missed something?
 
  • #264
The mobile command unit being used in search efforts
 
  • #265
I'm trying to locate the MSM article that states that Gannon texted his dad that day. Can someone provide a link for this? TIA.
It is rumor status, was never confirmed by LE ( #thatsPartOfTheInvestigation or MSM, who will be very careful of everything they publish from now on in relation to this case.
They're playing hardball now and that won't let up- they control the ENTIRE information flow from all agencies. I saw rumors about texts but they are unconfirmed and out of respect for what's happening I won't discuss them publicly in any forum. Unverified.
 
  • #266
Maybe she went out to see a boyfriend Monday. Maybe GS was made to wait in car or was dropped off somewhere else (store, park) until she was done but when she went back to get him he was not there. She’d have to come up with a cover story without exposing affair.
Why is he still being listed as missing endangered?
Why does LE have an area to search?
Maybe she fessed up to affair and negligence after Tuesday night and this is why AS kicked her out?
Maybe this is why there is no POI ?
Maybe when she returned to truck or place she left him he was not alive for some reason?
Maybe he is still in truck when she returns home on video then she leaves again later to dispose of body but we haven’t seen later videos? Scratch this last one- I think if he was deceased in truck they would of made an arrest already...same goes for house. They would know by now.

She doesn't strike me as a person who would feel shame or guilt if she was caught having an affair. Given what she said about Gannon (that child) and people apologizing when he comes home, she seems to feel all of her actions are right and she is the one who is aggrieved. So, I would imagine she would justify anything. It would also be so easy to point LEO to her car in a lot, any lot of a business and see the footage of her leaving the car and Gannon leaving the car. That would be easy-- make the scene of his disappearance far from her home.
 
  • #267
OK - mea culpa. :oops: It does seem to be the drivers side door. I must watch myself for leaping to what appears to be new evidence. So desperate for a resolution.

What would she be holding in both hands where she would need to kick the door open? Has this been discussed? I saw several posts on the 'white papers'.
 
  • #268
RSBM

"A spokeswoman for the El Paso County Sheriff’s Department said investigators have a copy of the video and do not dispute Drayton’s description of what the footage purportedly shows. The video, they caution, is only one part of the investigation." Family of missing Colorado boy makes tearful plea after new surveillance video revealed

While they didn't come outright and say "yes, this is him"... they pretty much did, when they said they do not dispute what the footage shows.

jmo

If I were LE at this point, I wouldn't comment on what the video showed or rather contradicted. I'm surprised we got that much out of the spokeswoman.

What you see in the video, directly contradicts what was on the very first missing flyer. That information came from the last person to see Gannon. There's not much you can do to reel that back in, the video tells a very different story.
 
  • #269
Respectfully, I looked at it on a large monitor in high-res. The head appears and there's an arm moving back and forth. If it was a door, it's not her door. It's on the other side of the truck. As well, I have a truck and have always had trucks. If you kick a truck door, they are solid. They don't bounce. Cars might. But this is a wiping motion. IMO

Then where did they go? Unless it was intentionally edited out (by whomever shot the video of the video) to exclude said person. I would think this would be a person of interest.

Since we don’t have the highest resolution available, as it’s a video of a video, nor do we have the full length version of the video for that day, how can we accurately assess it anyway? I question it because editing can guide the narrative.
 
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  • #270
what man friend? are you just speculating wildly? or have I missed something?
speculating - which everything here is to those not privy to what LE has, but not wildly IMO
 
  • #271
What would she be holding in both hands where she would need to kick the door open? Has this been discussed? I saw several posts on the 'white papers'.

she could be cleaning her hands with a rag. She could be wary that there could be some sort of transfer of dirt/fluid to the door. Speculation of course. Maybe she just opens the door that way. I wonder if she immediately took a shower after she went inside and if she still has the clothes - and if so - were they immediately washed.
 
  • #272
What would she be holding in both hands where she would need to kick the door open? Has this been discussed? I saw several posts on the 'white papers'.
The white object is a beanie. She has it on when she leaves, it's off and in her hands when she comes back.
 
  • #273
RSBM

"A spokeswoman for the El Paso County Sheriff’s Department said investigators have a copy of the video and do not dispute Drayton’s description of what the footage purportedly shows. The video, they caution, is only one part of the investigation." Family of missing Colorado boy makes tearful plea after new surveillance video revealed

While they didn't come outright and say "yes, this is him"... they pretty much did, when they said they do not dispute what the footage shows.

jmo

They must be doing the tedious and methodical work of getting the surveillance footage of every business along multiple routes (she turns left, get footage from these business/homes, she turns right to get footage on this route) to see where she went with him. I think they are putting this very big puzzle together one piece at a time. This work is so time consuming but I think they will get there.

ETA: clarification
 
  • #274
Long time lurker, always scared to post In case I don’t post correctly! Love WS and the intelligent discussions.

I thought this same thing, but why wouldn’t SM go look for him when she started to get worried? Especially since when he did he return he would tell his dad and BM for sure.

Welcome:) Dont worry someone will let you know if you dont post correctly.

This might be one of the things that have her undone!
 
  • #275
What would she be holding in both hands where she would need to kick the door open? Has this been discussed? I saw several posts on the 'white papers'.
You’ve never used your foot or leg to push a door open all the way? I have. Especially since it can swing back and hit your leg as you’re getting out, especially if you’re not on completely flat ground. I have a suburban and a sedan and have done it in both vehicles. Anyway, this is a super minute detail that doesn’t mean anything.
 
  • #276
The white object is a beanie. She has it on when she leaves, it's off and in her hands when she comes back.

thanks for the clarification.
 
  • #277
This...also wouldn't there have been some type of electronic communication between Gannon and said friend. Such as a text or phone call. He wasn't at school that day. It seems odd to me that he wouldn't have had any communications with his friends all day (i.e. not at school to socialize) so how would he know who was able to play?

Also, I'm assuming he's in elementary school, and it looks like the dismissal bell is at 2:30 PM. By the time they dismissed, got on the buses loaded [assuming they rode the bus as I believe it was mentioned previously] and started their bus trip home would the other children be home from school at 3:15. I guess that would depend on where they were on the bus route. My daughter's bell rings at 3:15, I pick her up directly at school. She comes out of the building to me around 3:20. The buses are still loading up and not pulling out of the parking lot until about 3:30-3:40. I would assume (again MOO) that most kids would need to vacate the bus and check-in at home before they went to play with friends and possibly do homework before playing as well. And yes to the above I wouldn't nor would I let my kids say "Can I go to a friend's house?" it would be "Can I go over to Susie's house?"

I'd be interested to know if and what communication he had with his friends that day. The timeline and complete occurrence doesn't work for me. MOO
Gameplay too, It's been mentioned he loves Sonic. Also I really doubt there was any call to any doctor. If there actually had been I'm pretty sure Mom,and Dad would have verified that in the pressers. Poor Gannon. Someone other than TS knows what happend to Bubba. That's gotta be a heavy load to bear. A really,really heavy load.
MOO
RSBM

"A spokeswoman for the El Paso County Sheriff’s Department said investigators have a copy of the video and do not dispute Drayton’s description of what the footage purportedly shows. The video, they caution, is only one part of the investigation." Family of missing Colorado boy makes tearful plea after new surveillance video revealed

While they didn't come outright and say "yes, this is him"... they pretty much did, when they said they do not dispute what the footage shows.

jmo
What you see is only part of it. Remember there is sound too. I'm sure LEO heard it, RD heard it, Dad heard it. So now it's a question of what,and who was heard.
MOO
 
  • #278
Respectfully, I looked at it on a large monitor in high-res. The head appears and there's an arm moving back and forth. If it was a door, it's not her door. It's on the other side of the truck. As well, I have a truck and have always had trucks. If you kick a truck door, they are solid. They don't bounce. Cars might. But this is a wiping motion. IMO

What seconds in the video?
 
  • #279
she could be cleaning her hands with a rag. She could be wary that there could be some sort of transfer of dirt/fluid to the door. Speculation of course. Maybe she just opens the door that way. I wonder if she immediately took a shower after she went inside and if she still has the clothes - and if so - were they immediately washed.
BBM
Oh I hadn't thought about that. But along with that line of thinking, she had to have touched the steering wheel to drive, so whatever it was would have transferred at least there. Unless she was wearing gloves and when she pulled in to the driveway and parked she removed them not wanting any neighbors to see she was wearing gloves. But that then leads me to think that it is winter time, a lot of people wear gloves while driving/exiting their vehicle. Unless they were rubber gloves. MOO
 
  • #280
They must be doing the tedious and methodical work of getting the surveillance footage of every business along multiple routes to see where she went with him. I think they are putting this very big puzzle together one piece at a time. This work is so time consuming but I think they will get there.
Yes! I have not once questioned their hard work and dedication in doing their due-diligence in finding him. I truly think they are being thorough in their investigation.
 
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