Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #7

[Spartygirl]

Exactly, I believe LS was responsible for that Google search, but that doesn't mean she pointed it out to LE. It looks better on LS if she doesn't point it out LE but instead, hands the phone to LE and they discover it, if that makes any sense?

Exactly

 

[neesaki]

Long time visitor to the site, but new member. Have read TOS but still learning the posting ropes. Here for Gannon!

I was overjoyed that AS separated himself from TS in this case. So many times, even under the specter of wrongdoing, it seems that parents stick together and the innocent parent will support the parent under suspicion. I think the safety and well-being of children has to come first and can’t imagine standing by someone thought to have injured my child. Isn’t there some charge by which TS could be arrested given the neighbor’s video or false statements to authorities, that wouldn’t hinder a more serious charge and prosecution. Getting someone in jail and in the legal process would seem to me to be a first step in demoralizing TS and perhaps sending her down the path to telling the truth.

jmho

Can’t give you any answers, but I like your way of thinking, and in general agree with it. Just not sure myself, why they can’t find a reason to arrest her.

And Welcome to Websleuths!

 

[MsBetsy]

Exactly, I believe LS was responsible for that Google search, but that doesn't mean she pointed it out to LE. It looks better on LS if she doesn't point it out LE but instead, hands the phone to LE and they discover it, if that makes any sense?

Yes, it does make sense but I'm not sure she is smart enough to have thought of that. Jmo

 

[mommadukes]

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“Even today he’s still our miracle child. He still is and he’s such a happy child and he just brings life to every party,” the father said. “His smile, even today, is keeping us going. His infectious smile brings me joy every time I think about it.”

Gannon loves Sonic, the color blue, riding his bicycle with his sister, going outside and playing with his friends and telling corny jokes, Hiott said.

“Every single day he has to tell me a joke. He looks forward to tell me something silly. And I’m afraid that I may never see that again or hear it,” she said. “I don’t want to believe that because that means I’m giving up hope and I’m not giving up hope because my son is full of hope.”

Gannon’s sister Laina joined her parents in the video. It ended with her smiling at the camera and saying, “I love you, Bubba.”
Gannon Stauch case: Parents of missing 11-year-old Colorado Springs boy make emotional plea for help – Lamar Ledger

The hope of Gannon's family is so inspirational, yet so heartbreaking.

 

[BloodHoundSleuther]

I wonder if the text to his father and the search about whether phones can be tracked happened very close together.

Both could have easily and were most likely done by LS! That makes the most sense because we know he was never going to play with anyone.

 

[ExitMusic]

It hurts to admit that I expect the worst. Watching the truck video, someone pointed out that I see now, when another vehicle passes by, the driver of the pickup truck seems to lift their legs up as if to hide before the other vehicle is gone. It’s only a matter of time.

Gannon’s parents & family are in my thoughts.

 

[BloodHoundSleuther]

Yes, it does make sense but I'm not sure she is smart enough to have thought of that. Jmo

That all goes back to weather this was a highly premeditated plan or if some kind of accident occurred with little to no time to plan. I'm thinking it's more likely highly premeditated.

 

[kittythehare]

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“Even today he’s still our miracle child. He still is and he’s such a happy child and he just brings life to every party,” the father said. “His smile, even today, is keeping us going. His infectious smile brings me joy every time I think about it.”

Gannon loves Sonic, the color blue, riding his bicycle with his sister, going outside and playing with his friends and telling corny jokes, Hiott said.

“Every single day he has to tell me a joke. He looks forward to tell me something silly. And I’m afraid that I may never see that again or hear it,” she said. “I don’t want to believe that because that means I’m giving up hope and I’m not giving up hope because my son is full of hope.”

Gannon’s sister Laina joined her parents in the video. It ended with her smiling at the camera and saying, “I love you, Bubba.”
Gannon Stauch case: Parents of missing 11-year-old Colorado Springs boy make emotional plea for help – Lamar Ledger

This woman is holding on to hope.
I think I understand what she is saying.
But I'm also wondering if she knows that some hope actually exists and this may be a hostage situation or a kidnapping...?
Is it possible?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I have not read that anywhere but in the PC they never mentioned that there were two calls.

Maybe it was another source other than MSM?

As far as I can tell the caller was always described as TS based on what was described in the call. Either way it was confirmed that she was the caller, so I guess if there was someone else who called it wasn't important enough for them to mention it. Either that or it's part of the investigation.

Imo

I wonder if TS made it sound like it wasn't that big a deal, them Dad found out the police hadn't showed up yet, called the neighbor who called The police to let them know it was more urgent. MOO

 

[Spartygirl]

Long time visitor to the site, but new member. Have read TOS but still learning the posting ropes. Here for Gannon!

I was overjoyed that AS separated himself from TS in this case. So many times, even under the specter of wrongdoing, it seems that parents stick together and the innocent parent will support the parent under suspicion. I think the safety and well-being of children has to come first and can’t imagine standing by someone thought to have injured my child. Isn’t there some charge by which TS could be arrested given the neighbor’s video or false statements to authorities, that wouldn’t hinder a more serious charge and prosecution. Getting someone in jail and in the legal process would seem to me to be a first step in demoralizing TS and perhaps sending her down the path to telling the truth.

jmho

Welcome !! and YES...the safety of the children should come first JMO

 

[susiQ]

I am having an issue with this as well. When this case 1st started, The dad said he called his neighbor to see if he/she saw Gannon, then the father said that the neighbor called 911. I swear I read that on thread 1 page 1. I have gone back to @oviedo timelines and links yet all of the MSM articles have since updated and I can't find it. I swear it was said. May have been out of confusion or miss-reporting, IDK, but I swear that was said. During my search I came up with (days later) that Stepmom called it in. This has to be said that because I can't prove this its ALL IMO. But I swear I saw that. Again IMO

I don't think you're imagining this. I will preface this with MOO:
TS reported Gannon as a runaway at 6:55 p.m. AS called his neighbour to see if he had seen GS outside that afternoon, but he hadn't. I "believe" AS called other parents of GS's friends to check if he was there but no luck. With no success, someone called 911 around 9 p.m. Not sure if was AS or the neighbour that made the call. All MOO.

ETA: someone else posted upthread that it was the neighbour that called 911

 

[MsBetsy]

That all goes back to weather this was a highly premeditated plan or if some kind of accident occurred with little to no time to plan. I'm thinking it's more likely highly premeditated.

I don't know. I think even if she told them herself she could have made that decision long in advance. She may have thought of it at the last minute or she may have thought it through.

I'm thinking that she did not leave it up to investigators to find because they stated that the decision to investigate the case as a runaway was made based on what the caller said during the call and the information she gave them when they interviewed her at the house.

Imo

 

[Winterhike]

I don't think you're imagining this. I will preface this with MOO:
TS reported Gannon as a runaway at 6:55 p.m. AS called his neighbour to see if he had seen GS outside that afternoon, but he hadn't. I "believe" AS called other parents of GS's friends to check if he was there but no luck. With no success, someone called 911 around 9 p.m. Not sure if was AS or the neighbour that made the call. All MOO.

ETA: someone else posted upthread that it was the neighbour that called 911

As clarified upthread, the official first report was made by TS, but maybe she downplayed the seriousness of the disappearance even more than calling him a runaway? Maybe she made that call for the sake of appearances and so she could tell her husband she had called, but she didn't make LE think there was much cause for concern, hence the delay in response from nearly 7 PM to 9-10 PM. JMO

 

[BloodHoundSleuther]

Another thought, if LS used Gannon's phone to ask Dad if it was okay to play elsewhere in the neighborhood, Dad may have noticed that the verbiage didn't match his son's usual lingo! That, right there, maybe have sent up a red flag!

 

[MsMarple]

They said the idea that he ran away came from her 911 call.

Boy, I sure would like to hear LS's 911 call. Hoping LE will release it.

 

[kittythehare]

WOA. Did someone try to break in and take evidence????

maybe the tenants discovered some things were missing?

 

[gitana1]

Even if they had consent they would get warrants for an investigation of this magnitude. Warrants stand up in court. LE wouldn’t want to jeopardize evidence being thrown out.

That’s right. Because even if they were only consenting to a search of their very own personal property, the law on what constitutes consent to a warrant less search can be shaky. One legal approach to determining whether valid consent was given is whether the cop’s actions were reasonable in attempting to secure consent and in the search, in light of all the circumstances.

No legitimate LE organization is going to risk having evidence be deemed inadmissible in a high profile case that will likely be a homicide case.

 

[gitana1]

They said the idea that he ran away came from her 911 call.

Sort of like the idea of Conner and Brinkley’s “suicide” came from their mom during her 911 call.

 

[kittythehare]

Another thought, if LS used Gannon's phone to ask Dad if it was okay to play elsewhere in the neighborhood, Dad may have noticed that the verbiage didn't match his son's usual lingo! That, right there, maybe have sent up a red flag!

I doubt it because he was not aware Gannon was missing at the time.
What would be more interesting is the geolocation of that phone at the time any messages were sent from it that day.
She didn't get back until 2.13pm.
the phone was home.
the child was not if we're reading it right.

 

[Drake81]

This! I could go on for hours the things some of my soldiers wives used to do when we had training, and especially when we were deployed. Now that you brought this up, I wonder if she was doing something along the lines of this, but went too far, and GS ultimately payed the price.

The training was only two weeks long. I can’t see her doing something to get him home sooner unless she had things she wanted to do.