Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered*

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  • #201
Gannon was last seen by his stepmother between 3:15 and 4 p.m. Monday at his home in the Lorson Ranch neighborhood of southeast Colorado Springs before reportedly walking to a friend's house across the street, according to El Paso County sheriff's Sgt. Deborah Mynatt.
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Mynatt downplayed both developments, saying investigators do not suspect foul play and still suspect Gannon is a runaway.
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Deputies, too, continued to search for the boy, and his information has been added to the FBI's National Crime Information Center database, Mynatt said.
Sheriff appeals for help finding Colorado Springs boy, 11, missing since Monday

*Is running away from home considered an FBI national crime?

Most missing persons, regardless of age, are listed in NCIC. It’s not the same thing as the FBI being actively involved in the case. I would have hoped CARD was already brought in. I’m frightened for this boy.
 
  • #202
I agree. And then there's this...https://www.outtherecolorado.com/search-underway-for-missing-colorado-boy/
Information received during an interview with the Stauch’s stepmother and other information lead deputies to believe he’s a runaway instead of a missing person.
I wish LE would talk to other people (other family members, neighbors, etc.) than just take the stepmother's word for this.
What if he was indeed kidnapped ?
Doesn't seem like there's enough urgency for Gannon.
Not nearly enough. :mad: :(
Yes I'm ticked off.
Imo.
 
  • #203
https://www.outtherecolorado.com/search-underway-for-missing-colorado-boy/
Gannon Stauch was last seen between 3:15 and 4 p.m. at his home in the Lorson Ranch neighborhood of Colorado Springs before leaving on foot for a friend’s house across the street, El Paso County Sheriff’s Department Sgt. Deborah Mynatt told The Gazette on Tuesday.

I wonder if across the street actually means physically across the street (within eyesight) or if it’s just a phrase to mean ‘nearby.’
 
  • #204
Prayer vigil happening at Restoration Church for 11-year-old Gannon Stauch. @KOAA

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  • #205
I’m grateful to everyone who has posted relevant and critical info regarding the FBI National Crime reporting agency. You’ve not only helped me learn but educated every single person reading this thread.
 
  • #206
Candlelight vigil taking place for Gannon Stauch at his church. I spoke to a 17-year-old who has taken part in search efforts. She says her sister is Gannon’s age which makes it difficult for her to imagine being in his family’s shoes.


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Just popped in on this thread but wondering if LE have given a lie detector test to Dad and Stepmom? Especially stepmom if and only if she was the last person known to have seen him. I'll go back and read everything now but this just fell on me.
 
  • #209
Even if LE is operating under the assumption of 'runaway', they should still IMO consider the possibility that he might have "run" back to wherever he went on Sunday.

They can consider that perhaps he wanted to explore a place he was told not to on that day, or wanted to look for something he dropped there, or some similar scenario.

MOO IMO
 
  • #210
I’m grateful to everyone who has posted relevant and critical info regarding the FBI National Crime reporting agency. You’ve not only helped me learn but educated every single person reading this thread.


According to the FBI, in 2019 there were 421,394 NCIC entries for missing children. In 2018, the total number of missing children entries into NCIC was 424,066.




Key Facts
 
  • #211
Even if LE is operating under the assumption of 'runaway', they should still IMO consider the possibility that he might have "run" back to wherever he went on Sunday.

They can consider that perhaps he wanted to explore a place he was told not to on that day, or wanted to look for something he dropped there, or some similar scenario.

MOO IMO
Agreed.
If Gannon ran away (which is very doubtful, imo) he's only 11 years old and would possibly return to a familiar place.
 
  • #212
According to the FBI, in 2019 there were 421,394 NCIC entries for missing children. In 2018, the total number of missing children entries into NCIC was 424,066.




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A program of National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.
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  • #213
Wow, terribly surprised that I haven't seen dogs. Sadly. LE should be studying family dynamics here too. Why would this 11 year old child run away? Did he have a habit of doing so? Was he perfectly happy with one parent but not another?
 
  • #214
Agreed.
If Gannon ran away (which is very doubtful, imo) he's only 11 years old and would possibly return to a familiar place.

IMO. At that age, they go home as soon as they get hungry and cold.
 
  • #215
All police investigations begin with a blank slate. Unless, it is a crime in progress, the process begins in one of two ways: a person goes into the station to make a report or, a person calls in and an officer is dispatched to take the report.
The initial report is made based on what the reporting person tells the officer. At this point, the officer is a recorder, writing down what he is being told. At this point there is probably no reason to disbelieve the information he is being given. The officer may make some observations of his own at this time. What is the demeanor of the reporting person? Does the information make sense? Is there evidence to back up what the reporting person is telling the officer? Is there anything that contradicts what the person is telling the officer?
The next step is based on all of the above.
In a missing person’s case the first thing will depend on age and circumstance. Of course adults have the right to disappear and not tell anybody. So from there you try to find out if there is evidence that the disappearance is not voluntary and go from there.
A child’s disappearance is much different. Although some children are chronic runaways, and some from quite a young age, the fact is that a young child is very vulnerable whether their disappearance is voluntary or not.
In missing children’s cases you will always go back to the reporting person, what they told you, and if it can be corroborated.
Who last saw the child?
When?
Where?
Do the pieces fit?
This is how the investigation starts and how it grows. Does LE make mistakes? Yes, they do. But they start out with the information they are given to begin with. Sometimes it takes longer than we would like to verify that. It can be very frustrating for the public, but also for the officers themselves.
MOO
 
  • #216
All police investigations begin with a blank slate. Unless, it is a crime in progress, the process begins in one of two ways: a person goes into the station to make a report or, a person calls in and an officer is dispatched to take the report.
The initial report is made based on what the reporting person tells the officer. At this point, the officer is a recorder, writing down what he is being told. At this point there is probably no reason to disbelieve the information he is being given. The officer may make some observations of his own at this time. What is the demeanor of the reporting person? Does the information make sense? Is there evidence to back up what the reporting person is telling the officer? Is there anything that contradicts what the person is telling the officer?
The next step is based on all of the above.
In a missing person’s case the first thing will depend on age and circumstance. Of course adults have the right to disappear and not tell anybody. So from there you try to find out if there is evidence that the disappearance is not voluntary and go from there.
A child’s disappearance is much different. Although some children are chronic runaways, and some from quite a young age, the fact is that a young child is very vulnerable whether their disappearance is voluntary or not.
In missing children’s cases you will always go back to the reporting person, what they told you, and if it can be corroborated.
Who last saw the child?
When?
Where?
Do the pieces fit?
This is how the investigation starts and how it grows. Does LE make mistakes? Yes, they do. But they start out with the information they are given to begin with. Sometimes it takes longer than we would like to verify that. It can be very frustrating for the public, but also for the officers themselves.
MOO
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  • #217
All police investigations begin with a blank slate. Unless, it is a crime in progress, the process begins in one of two ways: a person goes into the station to make a report or, a person calls in and an officer is dispatched to take the report.
The initial report is made based on what the reporting person tells the officer. At this point, the officer is a recorder, writing down what he is being told. At this point there is probably no reason to disbelieve the information he is being given. The officer may make some observations of his own at this time. What is the demeanor of the reporting person? Does the information make sense? Is there evidence to back up what the reporting person is telling the officer? Is there anything that contradicts what the person is telling the officer?
The next step is based on all of the above.
In a missing person’s case the first thing will depend on age and circumstance. Of course adults have the right to disappear and not tell anybody. So from there you try to find out if there is evidence that the disappearance is not voluntary and go from there.
A child’s disappearance is much different. Although some children are chronic runaways, and some from quite a young age, the fact is that a young child is very vulnerable whether their disappearance is voluntary or not.
In missing children’s cases you will always go back to the reporting person, what they told you, and if it can be corroborated.
Who last saw the child?
When?
Where?
Do the pieces fit?
This is how the investigation starts and how it grows. Does LE make mistakes? Yes, they do. But they start out with the information they are given to begin with. Sometimes it takes longer than we would like to verify that. It can be very frustrating for the public, but also for the officers themselves.
MOO

Thank you for this! One question I have, about cases in general, including this one:

When there is no immediate evidence leading toward a particular person as a suspect, but there are the statistics of other cases, do LE investigate just based on the statistics?

In other words, let's say a woman goes missing and there is no immediate evidence pointing toward the husband/ boyfriend/ ex, but everyone knows that statistically there is an elevated probability of that being the reality. Can/does LE look into that from the start or do they need to wait until direct evidence in that direction appears?

I would assume they can't get warrants to search private property right away with no direct evidence, but they could do their background research, request interviews, and certainly could search any public areas without needing warrants. I just wonder if they do this from the start.

Thanks in advance for your comments!
 
  • #218
All police investigations begin with a blank slate. Unless, it is a crime in progress, the process begins in one of two ways: a person goes into the station to make a report or, a person calls in and an officer is dispatched to take the report.
The initial report is made based on what the reporting person tells the officer. At this point, the officer is a recorder, writing down what he is being told. At this point there is probably no reason to disbelieve the information he is being given. The officer may make some observations of his own at this time. What is the demeanor of the reporting person? Does the information make sense? Is there evidence to back up what the reporting person is telling the officer? Is there anything that contradicts what the person is telling the officer?
The next step is based on all of the above.
In a missing person’s case the first thing will depend on age and circumstance. Of course adults have the right to disappear and not tell anybody. So from there you try to find out if there is evidence that the disappearance is not voluntary and go from there.
A child’s disappearance is much different. Although some children are chronic runaways, and some from quite a young age, the fact is that a young child is very vulnerable whether their disappearance is voluntary or not.
In missing children’s cases you will always go back to the reporting person, what they told you, and if it can be corroborated.
Who last saw the child?
When?
Where?
Do the pieces fit?
This is how the investigation starts and how it grows. Does LE make mistakes? Yes, they do. But they start out with the information they are given to begin with. Sometimes it takes longer than we would like to verify that. It can be very frustrating for the public, but also for the officers themselves.

MOO

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  • #219
According to the FBI, in 2019 there were 421,394 NCIC entries for missing children. In 2018, the total number of missing children entries into NCIC was 424,066.




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Those numbers are mind boggling. :(
 
  • #220
We have stepmom's account of sunday and monday. Do we know if he was in school in Friday? Or the last time he was seen/online prior to being reported missing?
 
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