Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered*

[Nik S]

What about Dad? Do we know when he left for training?

 

[LietKynes]

Thank you for this! One question I have, about cases in general, including this one:

When there is no immediate evidence leading toward a particular person as a suspect, but there are the statistics of other cases, do LE investigate just based on the statistics?

In other words, let's say a woman goes missing and there is no immediate evidence pointing toward the husband/ boyfriend/ ex, but everyone knows that statistically there is an elevated probability of that being the reality. Can/does LE look into that from the start or do they need to wait until direct evidence in that direction appears?

I would assume they can't get warrants to search private property right away with no direct evidence, but they could do their background research, request interviews, and certainly could search any public areas without needing warrants. I just wonder if they do this from the start.

Thanks in advance for your comments!

Msm states LE were at Gannon's home for 12 + hours searching .
So it's officially said by LE that he's a runaway... but to search/ask questions for that long, makes it look like LE are considering all options.
And that's a good thing.

 

[LietKynes]

We have stepmom's account of sunday and monday. Do we know if he was in school in Friday? Or the last time he was seen/online prior to being reported missing?

Good questions, @rebeccaeee .

I'd like to hear that 911 ("my kid ran away") call as well.
LE are treating this as a runaway until they have reason to believe otherwise, according to my previous post.
So, what were they told ?

 

[OldCop]

Thank you for this! One question I have, about cases in general, including this one:

When there is no immediate evidence leading toward a particular person as a suspect, but there are the statistics of other cases, do LE investigate just based on the statistics?

In other words, let's say a woman goes missing and there is no immediate evidence pointing toward the husband/ boyfriend/ ex, but everyone knows that statistically there is an elevated probability of that being the reality. Can/does LE look into that from the start or do they need to wait until direct evidence in that direction appears?

I would assume they can't get warrants to search private property right away with no direct evidence, but they could do their background research, request interviews, and certainly could search any public areas without needing warrants. I just wonder if they do this from the start.

Thanks in advance for your comments!

LE will look at what is referred to as the “totality of the circumstances”. This will include all the facts that are known and to some degree you might say statistics but more often will be thought of as the likelihood of what happened given what is known in that particular case. In other words, statistics might say that a woman’s disappearance or murder most likely would be committed by a husband/boyfriend/acquaintance but you must first explore all other possible scenarios. In the meantime, yes, you are poking into all these other possibilities which would include those closest to them.
ETA The biggest mistake that police can make is to get tunnel vision. They concentrate all efforts in one area and fail to be open to other possibilities. The old saying, “Go where the evidence takes you”, is the rule by which all investigators should live.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

I wonder what the parental relationships are like between mom, step-mom, and dad? Any history of drama or trouble?

 

[erinmsgadvct]

This doesn't sound good. He was allowed to stay home from school bc he was sick but was evidentially well enough to be allowed to walk to a friend's house in this weather. I am also curious as to when he was last seen by someone outside the family. Given that his phone is at home, also very suspicious, anyone could have made that last search in regards to running away in an effort to cover up why he's really unaccounted for.

 

[MsMarple]

[Dad] said Gannon didn't let them know what friend's house he was going to in the neighborhood and that this was "unlike him so that's why we're obviously really concerned."
Missing 11-year-old boy in El Paso County last seen Monday
That's a red flag IMO. What it means... I can only guess for now. I'm glad that LE appears to be conducting a dual investigation at this point which means they're looking at all possibilities.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Is it at all possible he met someone online thru gaming, and left to meet up with this person? Would that explain why he never said which friend he was going to visit? Would that also explain why a search phrase like that was found on his phone, and why he left it behind?

Just some random thoughts about the how, when, where and why.

 

[SandyQLS]

yeah, that’s seems like a “cya” search - an 11 year old is taking his phone ...IMO

This case reminds me of 10 y/o "runaway" Skylea Carmack of Indiana who was found strangled in the backyard shed... after days of widespread community ground searches. LE believes Skylea was murdered on a Saturday afternoon, silver alert issued Monday, body found early Wednesday = 3 1/2 days. JMO

 

[Tealgrove]

It actually seems a bit quiet to me.

Nothing from neighbours, or friend's parents.

Nothing about school and his classmates.

Who went on the hike on Sunday? Do they hike often? Is this a thing they do or was this out of the ordinary?

Where is bio mom? Could this be custodial?

Any problems at school? Any changes in his behaviour at school which would indicate something was up?

Is there a reason he "ran away"? Bio mom makes it sound like everything was OK - she let him go to a "friend's place" even though he was home sick so it doesn't sound like she was harsh with him. Was there strife in the family? Any sign of abuse? Bruises? Did he get into trouble for something?

I am personally having a hard time buying the runaway theory at this juncture.

I think all kinds of electronic devices are being searched or will be searched. I'm assuming the house was searched, anything out of order?

I'm still sitting on my hands, kinda, for now.

MOO

 

[Tealgrove]

This case reminds me of 10 y/o "runaway" Sklyea Carmack of Indiana who was found strangled in the backyard shed... after days of widespread community ground searches. LE believes Skylea was murdered on a Saturday afternoon, silver alert issued Monday, body found early Wednesday = 3 1/2 days. JMO[/QUOTE

Yup....

 

[Ursamajr]

hopefully LE has started checking traffic cams, business cams and any other cams that might have caught the parents vehicles coming and going from their residence since Gannon was last seen.

Also: correct me if I missed this but - did Gannon's friend know that Gannon was coming over?

 

[Jema]

Does anyone happen to know how old the boys sister is? Can they legally interview her?

 

[Lusitana]

This case reminds me of 10 y/o "runaway" Sklyea Carmack of Indiana who was found strangled in the backyard shed... after days of widespread community ground searches. LE believes Skylea was murdered on a Saturday afternoon, silver alert issued Monday, body found early Wednesday = 3 1/2 days. JMO

Oh my, that was so horrible. The poor girl got murdered because of a bracelet.

It actually seems a bit quiet to me.

Nothing from neighbours, or friend's parents.

Nothing about school and his classmates.

Who went on the hike on Sunday? Do they hike often? Is this a thing they do or was this out of the ordinary?

Where is bio mom? Could this be custodial?

Any problems at school? Any changes in his behaviour at school which would indicate something was up?

Is there a reason he "ran away"? Bio mom makes it sound like everything was OK - she let him go to a "friend's place" even though he was home sick so it doesn't sound like she was harsh with him. Was their strife in the family? Any sign of abuse? Bruises? Did he get into trouble for something?

I am personally having a hard time buying the runaway theory at this juncture.

I think all kinds of electronic devices are being searched or will be searched. I'm assuming the house was searched, anything out of order?

I'm still sitting on my hands, kinda, for now.

MOO

I believe Gannon's mom was out of state. Both mom and dad were out of town.

 

[Tealgrove]

Is it at all possible he met someone online thru gaming, and left to meet up with this person? Would that explain why he never said which friend he was going to visit? Would that also explain why a search phrase like that was found on his phone, and why he left it behind?

Just some random thoughts about the how, when, where and why.

I wondered about that kind of scenario as well. He could have been told to leave his phone at home because his parents would find out where he was. It's very easy for a predator to convince a young kid that if their parents find out then they won't be able to continue playing. Then he does the search on his phone and decides to leave it behind while he leaves.

If I recall correctly, somewhere in this thread LE was asking neighbours if they saw any unfamiliar cars in the neighbourhood. I think it's this case. If that's the case, maybe he did make arrangements to meet up with a "friend" except he wasn't across the street.

MOO

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

Is it at all possible he met someone online thru gaming, and left to meet up with this person? Would that explain why he never said which friend he was going to visit? Would that also explain why a search phrase like that was found on his phone, and why he left it behind?

Just some random thoughts about the how, when, where and why.

It is definitely possible, but I think it would have been easy for the FBI to trace the online tracks of an eleven year old by now. And...if they found something of this nature, I think they would have dropped the runaway label and changed it to suspected kidnapping. MOO, JMO, etc. But I may be very naive about how online predators operate. This sweet little boy's face haunts me. I sure hope for a miracle.

 

[GordianKnot]

It actually seems a bit quiet to me.

Nothing from neighbours, or friend's parents.

Nothing about school and his classmates.

Who went on the hike on Sunday? Do they hike often? Is this a thing they do or was this out of the ordinary?

Where is bio mom? Could this be custodial?

Any problems at school? Any changes in his behaviour at school which would indicate something was up?

Is there a reason he "ran away"? Bio mom makes it sound like everything was OK - she let him go to a "friend's place" even though he was home sick so it doesn't sound like she was harsh with him. Was their strife in the family? Any sign of abuse? Bruises? Did he get into trouble for something?

I am personally having a hard time buying the runaway theory at this juncture.

I think all kinds of electronic devices are being searched or will be searched. I'm assuming the house was searched, anything out of order?

I'm still sitting on my hands, kinda, for now.

MOO

BBM:

One slight correction:

It was stepmom who reported all of these alleged events leading up to GS' disappearance, not bio mom.

It is stepmom who is the last known person to have seen him.

Dad was out of town when GS disappeared.
He flew home on Tuesday.

Bio mom also came into town on Tuesday after she was alerted to the fact that her son had gone missing.

Both of GS' bio parents have described this as highly unusual behavior for him.

Looks like stepmom is the one who pushed the runaway narrative.

This situation is looking very grim.

The fact that LE hasn't held a press conference is making me positively apoplectic.

JMO.

 

[LietKynes]

It actually seems a bit quiet to me.

Nothing from neighbours, or friend's parents.

Nothing about school and his classmates.

Who went on the hike on Sunday? Do they hike often? Is this a thing they do or was this out of the ordinary?

Where is bio mom? Could this be custodial?

Any problems at school? Any changes in his behaviour at school which would indicate something was up?

Is there a reason he "ran away"? Bio mom makes it sound like everything was OK - she let him go to a "friend's place" even though he was home sick so it doesn't sound like she was harsh with him. Was there strife in the family? Any sign of abuse? Bruises? Did he get into trouble for something?

I am personally having a hard time buying the runaway theory at this juncture.

I think all kinds of electronic devices are being searched or will be searched. I'm assuming the house was searched, anything out of order?

I'm still sitting on my hands, kinda, for now.

MOO

Agreed.
Nothing about the classmates, friends or even the custody arrangements between bio mom and the step mom.
And not much about the weeks leading up to his disappearance.

 

[Ontario Mom]

BBM:

One slight correction:

It was stepmom who reported all of these alleged events leading up to GS' disappearance, not bio mom.

It is stepmom who is the last known person to have seen him.

Dad was out of town when GS disappeared.
He flew home on Tuesday.

Bio mom also came into town on Tuesday after she was alerted to the fact that her son had gone missing.

Both of GS' bio parents have described this as highly unusual behavior for him.

Looks like stepmom is the one who pushed the runaway narrative.

This situation is looking very grim.

The fact that LE hasn't held a press conference is making me positively apoplectic.

JMO.

We don't really know that the step-mom is the one who pushed the runaway narrative, or if it was pushed at all.
I'm a step-mom to two wonderful boys, so yeah, it's a tender subject for me. Now if step-moms would just stop doing terrible things to children, that would be awesome for the rest of us who love our steps as much as our own.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Information received during an interview with Stauch's stepmother and other information lead deputies to believe he's a runaway instead of a missing person.

Search underway for missing Colorado Springs boy