Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered*

[kittythehare]

I believe the nearest train station is Denver. The nearest bus stop to my house is 3/4 of a mile southwest-ish and GS’s neighborhood is practically rural and a couple miles east of me. As far as I can tell from the transit schedule, there are no busses that pick up within a couple miles of his neighborhood. Believe me when I say, if you don’t live in the central part of the Springs, public transport is a total crapshoot.

Thanks for that, worse than I had imagined.
Any other way out of there ? Something kids would know but adults wouldn't know?

 

[Pianoturtle]

Thanks for that, worse than I had imagined.
Any other way out of there ? Something kids would know but adults wouldn't know?

Well, I’m an adult, so if there is, I wouldn’t know. ;p

 

[kittythehare]

Well, I’m an adult, so if there is, I wouldn’t know. ;p

You weren't always an adult.
How did you 'escape' as a teenager and a child to get to wherever you were not permitted to be, if you did?

 

[Rosiebones]

The first 24 hours of his disappearance he would have needed a shelter and now he needs water and food. Where would he get that if this is voluntary and planned?

 

[Nik S]

The first 24 hours of his disappearance he would have needed a shelter and now he needs water and food. Where would he get that if this is voluntary and planned?

Water could potentially be easy if he is near a stream and it is not frozen.

 

[Pianoturtle]

The church where they held the vigil the other night has posted that the authorities are setting up base camp on the church property and to watch the sheriff’s SM for updates on how to help. I think I can post that because it’s a public page, yes?

 

[Pianoturtle]

You weren't always an adult.
How did you 'escape' as a teenager and a child to get to wherever you were not permitted to be, if you did?

I didn’t. I was a total goody two shoes. I couldn’t have even told you where the parties were on any given weekend back in high school.

 

[kittythehare]

Search update.
About 100 trained and professional search/ EPC officers setting up base camp at Restoration. Stay tuned into @epcsheriff to see how you can help. #ForGannon #RestorationFamily #RestChurch#PresentingChrist #BuildingCommunity #StrengtheningFaith @ Restoration Church






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[kittythehare]

I didn’t. I was a total goody two shoes. I couldn’t have even told you where the parties were on any given weekend back in high school.

did you know any delinquents at all who might have had escape methods?

 

[Pianoturtle]

did you know any delinquents at all who might have had escape methods?

lol! If I did, they weren’t sharing that info with me. Also, I didn’t grow up here. I’m a Colorado Springs transplant.

 

[kittythehare]

The first 24 hours of his disappearance he would have needed a shelter and now he needs water and food. Where would he get that if this is voluntary and planned?

If voluntary and planned, I imagine he would have prepared a place for himself complete with rations and a way to stay warm and dry. It would have formed part of the plan.

 

[moslym3]

From what I know of the general location, if G left the area, it was by vehicle. He could have bicycled out, maybe, but horseback, bus, taxi, snowmobile etc are slim to none. So he's either nearby outside or inside a building/home or has left the area by vehicle. My opinions, of course.

 

[kittythehare]

From what I know of the general location, if G left the area, it was by vehicle. He could have bicycled out, maybe, but horseback, bus, taxi, snowmobile etc are slim to none. So he's either nearby outside or inside a building/home or has left the area by vehicle. My opinions, of course.

A bicycle is a thought for sure. But it would possibly have already been mentioned by LE if his had been missing. Unless he had access to another?

 

[Tealgrove]

A bicycle is a thought for sure. But it would possibly have already been mentioned by LE if his had been missing. Unless he had access to another?

However LE has already said that he was not visible on security video.

 

[OldCop]

Yeah, to me, from the start they weren't treating it as a runaway. They were treating it as a missing person. But that just makes me wonder why they classified it as a runaway to to MSM, while they were treated it different. Was it because they were trying to make the suspect feel at ease? Or were they strictly flowing protocol? And even though it was changed to endangered until last night, it seems like they have had all hands on deck from the beginning, so I hope that will lead them to him sooner.
Also, as a die hard Bills fan, every time I see your avatar, my left eye involuntarily twitches.

According to the Sheriff, they were called to the house for a report of a runaway. Usually, it is a patrol officer who responds to take an initial report. Different agencies may refer to these initial reports as “incident reports” or something similar. They are forms, sometimes on paper, sometimes computerized, which require you to fill in all the preliminary information - date, dispatch time, time of incident, TYPE OF INCIDENT, address, person reporting, witnesses, phone number etc. Then there is a block to fill in the specifics of the incident/crime. This is a very important section. Police academies routinely teach courses in report writing. You are trained to answer the questions of who, what, when, where and why. You are trained to stick to the facts and to be concise.
It can be used in court if a case goes to trial. They are also public record.
In this case, the report probably read something like:
“On Monday, January 27, 2020 at approximately 6:55 pm I was dispatched to Mandan Rd on report of a runaway child. Upon arrival I was met by SM, who advised me that her stepson Gannon Stauch had run away.”
We do not know for sure what SM told the officer next. He likely asked pertinent questions: When did he leave? How do you know he ran away? Why did he run away? Etc
This is the crux of this case.
After taking this preliminary report, the responding officer makes certain decisions. He may call for a supervisor, a detective, additional officers. At any rate, until a supplementary report is written, the case will be classified as a runaway.
Meanwhile, while we might be thinking LE is doing nothing, LE immediately begins to try and verify what they have been told. For the most part, at least initially, they will take what they have been told at face value. However, LEO have hinky meters, too. Do the facts fit? Is SM’s demeanor off? Are there witnesses? Is there CCTV?
What they do know is that they have an 11 year old child who is not at home. Why?

 

[moslym3]

One of the more promising clues I've seen so far is that the neighborhood is new and under a great deal of growth and construction. I grew up in the springs in a similar neighborhood, where there were homes going up in the development. THAT is what we did as 10-12 year olds - we would sneak into all those houses in various stages of construction and establish our clubhouses, hide our sears and jc penney catalogs for the bra and panty sections and our candy and later cigarettes. So I hope LE is looking into every wall, basement, chimney, rafter of every house under construction in the area.

 

[GordianKnot]

If voluntary and planned, I imagine he would have prepared a place for himself complete with rations and a way to stay warm and dry. It would have formed part of the plan.

GS doesn't have the critical thinking skills of an adult.

He's 11 years old.
He's in elementary school.

11-year-old elementary school students don't make grand, elaborate escape plans.

He reportedly left the house without so much as a jacket on…so what does that tell you about his planning skills?

JMO.

 

[kittythehare]

However LE has already said that he was not visible on security video.

We just do not know the scope and locations of the cctv footage to which they referred, may not have meant immediate neighborhood. Lots of cctv's have blind spots. That lady was interviewed , said she didn't find him on hers, but did not discuss the angle of her camera or it's viewing limits..
It would be an interesting exercise to check where cameras were located in the environ of his home and further afield.

 

[Faebray]

According to the Sheriff, they were called to the house for a report of a runaway. Usually, it is a patrol officer who responds to take an initial report. Different agencies may refer to these initial reports as “incident reports” or something similar. They are forms, sometimes on paper, sometimes computerized, which require you to fill in all the preliminary information - date, dispatch time, time of incident, TYPE OF INCIDENT, address, person reporting, witnesses, phone number etc. Then there is a block to fill in the specifics of the incident/crime. This is a very important section. Police academies routinely teach courses in report writing. You are trained to answer the questions of who, what, when, where and why. You are trained to stick to the facts and to be concise.
It can be used in court if a case goes to trial. They are also public record.
In this case, the report probably read something like:
“On Monday, January 27, 2020 at approximately 6:55 pm I was dispatched to Mandan Rd on report of a runaway child. Upon arrival I was met by SM, who advised me that her stepson Gannon Stauch had run away.”
We do not know for sure what SM told the officer next. He likely asked pertinent questions: When did he leave? How do you know he ran away? Why did he run away? Etc
This is the crux of this case.
After taking this preliminary report, the responding officer makes certain decisions. He may call for a supervisor, a detective, additional officers. At any rate, until a supplementary report is written, the case will be classified as a runaway.
Meanwhile, while we might be thinking LE is doing nothing, LE immediately begins to try and verify what they have been told. For the most part, at least initially, they will take what they have been told at face value. However, LEO have hinky meters, too. Do the facts fit? Is SM’s demeanor off? Are there witnesses? Is there CCTV?
What they do know is that they have an 11 year old child who is not at home. Why?

Thank you such a detailed explanation! I appreciate it.

In your experience, does it make sense that they left his status as a runaway for almost 4 days, when his age/weather/clothing indicated that he was probably endangered?

IMO, although I'm definitely not a LEO, it would make sense they did that to keep the hypothetical POI in a "comfortable" position so they can get more info. Is that something that you would think they would do?

 

[CSIDreamer]

Thank you such a detailed explanation! I appreciate it.

In your experience, does it make sense that they left his status as a runaway for almost 4 days, when his age/weather/clothing indicated that he was probably endangered?

IMO, although I'm definitely not a LEO, it would make sense they did that to keep the POI in a "comfortable" position so they can get more info. Is that something that you would think they would do?

I'm kind of having trouble keeping up with my schedule today. Who has been named as a POI?