CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #64

[Cindizzi]

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[Marie Bell]

But it's not just Dr. Lewis. The majority of cases of DID are said to be diagnosed by a handful of experts. That may be suspicious. OR it may be run of the mill therapists send questionable cases to experts because it is so rare. Mental health professionals are supposed to practice only within their competence areas. Mostly it's self-policed. And someone who has never seen a case of X may not want to try to assign a final diagnosis of X.
JMO

I feel sure they would refer someone on to someone who specialises if they found something beyond their own area of expertise or knowledge.

 

[10ofRods]

Is multiple personality disorder the same as DID?

Yes, DID replaced 'multiple personality disorder' in DSM-5, with a proviso that the alters might not be named. It is considered to overlap or, sometimes be co-morbid, with a bunch of other things.

There are no good epidemiological studies on this, only claims by treating clinicians about what they think the incidence is. The problem with that is that people seek out specialists in DID and the specialist will therefore see a higher number of DID patients than the ordinary psychiatrist. The wikipedia article is very interesting.

Dissociative identity disorder - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So, to get into DSM-5 (and the European equivalent), there had to be research and I think most psychiatrists agree that dissociation is a common human feature. But having one's identity come in several packages is very controversial. A key feature, though, is amnesia (for the actions of the other identities).

IMO.

 

[NCWatcher]

I’ve flown to Alaska before. It is a US State. You don’t need a Canadian passport. And while it may be a requirement now, a few years back you just drive the Alaskan highway and you did not need a passport for driving.
Maybe Covid changed things?

I know Alaska is part of the US. And no, an American wouldn't need a Canadian passport or qualify for one. But I'm not sure you can drive in and out of Canada with no passport. And US land doesn't connect the Lower 48 to Alaska. Canada does. So I don't think they could have driven to and from Alaska if LS has never entered Canada.
JMO

 

[Megnut]

I assume that stepdad is conveniently deceased?

Yes, he died. A couple of times.

 

[sunflowerchick]

This may have been brought up already but the mispronounced words are driving me crazy!

CoOBerate rather than CoRRoborate
DisASSociative rather than Dissociative
Etc.

 

[iamshadow21]

Yes, DID replaced 'multiple personality disorder' in DSM-5, with a proviso that the alters might not be named. It is considered to overlap or, sometimes be co-morbid, with a bunch of other things.

There are no good epidemiological studies on this, only claims by treating clinicians about what they think the incidence is. The problem with that is that people seek out specialists in DID and the specialist will therefore see a higher number of DID patients than the ordinary psychiatrist. The wikipedia article is very interesting.

Dissociative identity disorder - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So, to get into DSM-5 (and the European equivalent), there had to be research and I think most psychiatrists agree that dissociation is a common human feature. But having one's identity come in several packages is very controversial. A key feature, though, is amnesia (for the actions of the other identities).

IMO.

(It was the DSM 4, actually.)

MOO

 

[steeltowngirl]

Between watching the antics of the Darrell Brooks trial last fall, and listening to babbling Tee for the past few weeks, I find Tee more intolerable.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Tee had multiple STD treatments and miscarriages.
Possible indicator of DID..per defense.

So why did he just mention inability to orgasm?

 

[Curious Me]

Letecia complained about being put in a "turtle suit" when at the jail is for suicide prevention. Letecia reported her longest period of work was a 6 yr. period.

Here's what I think I'm hearing. Failure to have orgasms. Multiple treatments for sexually transmitted diseases, and multiple miscarriages? Dr. Torres says yes.

Pause, and quiet courtroom as Dr. Torres reads a report about some other woman and DID. Defense Attorney trying to go somewhere I don't get where. He's asking the difference between Structural Dissociation and Alterations in Consciousness.

​

 

[Megnut]

Now the defense is trying to plug in T's data points to see if he can get a DID diagnosis. Same thing T tried to do.

Get over yourselves.

T had a rough childhood. I feel bad about that. It's true of a lot of people.

T has had a lot of jobs. So have a lot of people.

A lot of people have a lot of markers.

She didn't meet the threshold.

Move on.

 

[Megnut]

This is what I'm getting:

T murdered an 11 year old. But doesn't want to have to admit it so wants somebody to say she didn't do it, her super power did.

I am utterly exhausted.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Remember when she appeared before a Judge in SC about extradition and she mumbled something about the date on the paper being wrong?

I now think she means the arrest warrant where it says she murdered G on January 27.

Why would she insist it’s the 28th?

She called to report him missing at 6:55 pm on the 27th.
LE were searching the house at 10:00 pm on the 27th.

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Because she's crazy like a fox, but not insane by any means. MOO

 

[10ofRods]

But it's not just Dr. Lewis. The majority of cases of DID are said to be diagnosed by a handful of experts. That may be suspicious. OR it may be run of the mill therapists send questionable cases to experts because it is so rare. Mental health professionals are supposed to practice only within their competence areas. Mostly it's self-policed. And someone who has never seen a case of X may not want to try to assign a final diagnosis of X.
JMO

I'll admit I'm skeptical about this diagnosis, but I will say that Dr. Lewis focused on violent patients (many criminals). So perhaps it is more prevalent among them?

I have done a little research on dissociation within my student population. I am specifically interested in what people call "rage attacks" or "black-out rage" in which they recall being angry at someone, but they do not recall flying into a rage and doing whatever it is they did (hit someone, throw something, etc).

Myself, I've been very angry and twice, I've thrown something (not at anyone, at a wall). But I remember those times very well, even years later. I suspect I've never experienced that type of black-out rage.

But people do report even jumping in a car and driving away at high speed, but having no memory of doing it (they "come to" sitting in a parking lot or driving on the freeway).

Most people report that these are very brief moments, but even so, many people do the same things out of anger and remember them fairly well.

For the record, IMO, some forms of meditation (such as Single Point Concentration or Empty Mind in Buddhist meditation) are forms of dissociation. Willing suspension of disbelief while playing a video game or watching a film or reading a book is a form of dissociation (easily disrupted, of course, by actual reality coming in and barking or whatnot).

The idea that a person contains essentially two or more persons, each hidden from the others by dissociative processes, is very hard to establish. Dr. Lewis claims that it usually starts in childhood and that it can be discerned through drawing styles and handwriting (each alter/identity will have its own handwriting). That would make it easier to diagnose, for sure.

I can't wait until next week.

IMO.

 

[iamshadow21]

My opinion - she doesn't have structural dissociation (DID and other dissociative conditions) or alterations in consciousness (anything from psychosis to alcohol and drugs to religious rapture).

None of this 'nobody really knew her' line of questioning takes into account HH, who lived with her for her whole life.

 

[Kiranerys]

For around a decade, if I recall correctly.

MOO

I think he died when Dakota was 7? Don't quote me on that though.

Yes, he died. A couple of times.

And yet with all her biblical references she hasn't referred to him as Lazarus once

 

[Cindizzi]

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[imstilla.grandma]

Yep, I don’t doubt the childhood abuse. It was a trigger for me when his name came up. Same as my dad’s name. I‘ll bet ya a quarter, there’s no way she had it worse than I did. Truth be told, when I was young, I was misdiagnosed with MPD a few times. Don’t feel bad for me. It was a long time ago and he’s dead now. This whole thing is triggering me with flashbacks. I’ve been tense today but dammit, I’m standing my ground today and won’t run away. U Gannon

 

[Marie Bell]

I'll admit I'm skeptical about this diagnosis, but I will say that Dr. Lewis focused on violent patients (many criminals). So perhaps it is more prevalent among them?

I have done a little research on dissociation within my student population. I am specifically interested in what people call "rage attacks" or "black-out rage" in which they recall being angry at someone, but they do not recall flying into a rage and doing whatever it is they did (hit someone, throw something, etc).

Myself, I've been very angry and twice, I've thrown something (not at anyone, at a wall). But I remember those times very well, even years later. I suspect I've never experienced that type of black-out rage.

But people do report even jumping in a car and driving away at high speed, but having no memory of doing it (they "come to" sitting in a parking lot or driving on the freeway).

Most people report that these are very brief moments, but even so, many people do the same things out of anger and remember them fairly well.

For the record, IMO, some forms of meditation (such as Single Point Concentration or Empty Mind in Buddhist meditation) are forms of dissociation. Willing suspension of disbelief while playing a video game or watching a film or reading a book is a form of dissociation (easily disrupted, of course, by actual reality coming in and barking or whatnot).

The idea that a person contains essentially two or more persons, each hidden from the others by dissociative processes, is very hard to establish. Dr. Lewis claims that it usually starts in childhood and that it can be discerned through drawing styles and handwriting (each alter/identity will have its own handwriting). That would make it easier to diagnose, for sure.

I can't wait until next week.

IMO.

The information on the website I was reading earlier today mentioned the 1 percent (or thereabouts) of the people who have the disorder. It went on to say that only -.6 or thereabouts had a 'serious disorder'. Of those there were just 11 who had been violent; mostly men.

 

[Curious Me]

Paper Towels in case of vomiting?

Waiting for Dr. Torres to read something else. Turns out to be an account from Harley. Judge is off in thought.