CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #68

[10ofRods]

I think it's majority of 10 out of 12 here in England, but I'm not positive.

I found an article on it. BUT, I was wrong - it's not ALL 50 states in the US that required unanimity. Two did not. Then a SCOTUS decision changed that. The two are:

Louisiana
Oregon

I had no clue. I haven't followed any Louisiana trials, but I feel as if I should have heard more about Oregon. SCOTUS did ban them from doing so with a controversial decision in 2020. Ironically, the SCOTUS decision was not unanimous.

The article says England had required jury anonymity for 500 years and that's why we have it (mostly) as well. However, England now permits votes of 11-1 or 10-2 (according to this same legal article) (since 1967, if I'm reading the article correctly.

Jury unanimity in the UK & US – what's the verdict? | Corker Binning

“Accused of a serious crime, Evangeisto Ramos insisted on his innocence and invoked his right to a jury trial. Eventually, 10 jurors found the evidence against him persuasive. But a pair of jurors believed that the State of Louisiana had failed to prove Mr Ramos’s guilt beyond reasonable doubt...

corkerbinning.com

Fascinating. I had no idea about LA and OR nor that they lost their case in front of SCOTUS only in 2020.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655586354900639748

 

[arielilane]

RA is stating jury questions @9:00 am MT. moo

 

[TheLoadedGoat]

I am hoping that they are concentrated on the only issue that matters: sane v. insane. It has to be a very hard thing to deliberate (and they aren't allowed to use a dictionary! I wonder how many people know, off the top of their heads, what "moral obliquity" means. I had to look up obliquity, but it's the first clause in the instructions and it's important!

According to Webster, it means "deviation from moral rectitude or sound thinking" (that's NOT insanity in CO). So a deviation from sound thinking is NOT insanity in CO. Moral depravity is a little easier (and NOT insanity in CO).

I feel as if CO has written their laws in a user-unfriendly way (sorry CO, I love CO and spent part of my childhood in your lovely state, but seriously, this whole having to prove sanity and a person being declared "not guilty" on the basis of...the expert witnesses in this case? is really strange to me).

IMO. I guess every state has its quirks.

Very good point, 10! I have a decent vocab but had to look that one up. Did the judge give them the definition? If they have no dictionary, how do we know that they know what it means? My first Google search of the word resulted in Vocabulary.com's definition which I think fits Lietecia to a "T.": Obliquity is a characteristic of being deliberately indirect or vague, especially to fool or deceive someone.

 

[Jw192]

Jury questions at 9am in like 7 mins!!!

 

[arielilane]

People v Stauch: The Court will go on the record at 9 am to address jury questions.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655586354900639748

 

[Chelly]

Jury must have come up with some questions over the weekend?

 

[Madison1905]

Gannon we all love you and support justice for you!! Today we honor you, bright little boy.

 

[Heaven Leigh]

I think this is a good day to send LS to Prison. I have faith she didn't fool the Jury. Justice for Gannon and his Fam is on the way.

 

[girlhasnoname]

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People v Stauch: The Court will go on the record at 9 am to address jury questions.

It's interesting to me that the jurors have questions now when they were allowed to ask them after each witness testimony. It could be something totally unrelated to that though.

 

[K9Enzo]

I did give her the benefit of the doubt at first. Mostly it was because she's such a manipulator, she used all the hot button issues to compel the public to feeling sorry for her. Being the step-mom, getting online death threats, social media being so flaming nasty, etc. All of society knows that step-parents get a bad rap, and we also know how vile social media can be.

I'd have to go back and check but I'm pretty sure it was the backwards Cousin It interview that knocked me off the fence.

Good post about giving the benefit of the doubt and social media. I felt the same going in.

The tides turned for me when she said Gannon was home sick from school, then went to a friend's house later. That didn't ring true to me that he would be permitted to do both after missing school. That interview was also bizarre. She was more angry with her husband and the public than concerned about her missing stepson of several days at that point. imo

 

[perception≠reality]

It's interesting to me that the jurors have questions now when they were allowed to ask them after each witness testimony. It could be something totally unrelated to that though.

My hope is that they have questions about the forms, and they’re ready to call guilty on all counts. Fingers crossed!

 

[kittythehare]

linkys pleasy?
Where we watching it?

 

[arielilane]

Live feed is on. Jury is not present. There are two juror questions.

 

[Cindizzi]

It's interesting to me that the jurors have questions now when they were allowed to ask them after each witness testimony. It could be something totally unrelated to that though.

A lot of trials have the Jury sending questions to the Judge during deliberations even if they weren’t allowed to question witnesses.

JMO

 

[kittythehare]

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oh he just said jury have not begun their deliberations but they have a Q

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655588809067692035

 

[kittythehare]

Live feed is on. Jury is not present. There are two juror questions.

Link, please?

 

[Blondiexoxo]

Questions Usually means there’s a hold out or 2 IMO.

Really getting nervous now. Lewis’ testimony was full of lies I really hope they don’t believe her. Please let them see T for what she really is, please.

Hoping for justice for Gannon xx

 

[Snail-Overlord]

Day two of jury deliberations is about to begin in the trial for the murder of Gannon Stauch.

I'm getting to you with the power of mobile hotspot from my partner's phone - my home internet went down about twenty minutes ago and I have no idea why. I'm hoping it sorts itself out, but for now, we have enough data to get by. My nails are pale shimmery glitter blue called Wonderland today, and I'm ready for justice for Gannon.

Just wanted to thank you for your regular thorough updates throughout the trial. I tend to get information better by reading it and the audio quality in court is not so great, so you’ve been extremely helpful in helping me and others follow along