CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 #14

[Maisiebelle]

sadly he left before she came up to stand.....

Oh! Well maybe he just popped to the loo....

Hang on......that wouldn't work lol! He would need to hear the direct to know what to say in cross!
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[zoey]

Nurse Paggen said the gunman was not able to communicate on Nov. 12, 2012 and had a blank stare... "no connection... as if you weren't there
2 minutes ago

Nurse Paggen: "He crushed [two paper cups]... he put the sandwich meat between the two cups and was attempting to chew it."
a few seconds ago

Paggen said the gunman had to be moved to another room.
"The room was not fit to live in. It was full of feces," Paggen said anica.padilla
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-----The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

She did welfare check when they moved him into new cell. He was not cooperative

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The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

She asked what was going on and he mouthed but no words came out
The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

She wanted to check his eyes. JH resisted. She opened them. Bloodshot, tearful, very wet

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Paggen detailing grotesque Nov. 2012, post-#theatershooting incidents, including feces smearing & "failed" attempts to balance cups on penis

 

[Maisiebelle]

She is talking about a bump on his head but didn't the Dr at the hospital day yesterday there were no bumps or bruises?


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[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Tried to get blood pressure. He refused by tightening his body. Deputies had to assist.

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 52s53 seconds ago
#theatershooting

She was concerned about bump on his head and his behavior. Concerned about concussion

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 46s46 seconds ago
#theatershooting

MD came to see JH that day.

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Paggen says Holmes had to be restrained in Nov. 2012, post-#theatershooting, when she tried to take his blood pressure. Had bloodshot eyes.

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 40s41 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Ambulance came on Nov 13, 2012 @ 11:34 AM

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH able to get up on gurney, which surprised nurse. Said JH looked totally scared and was crying

 

[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH was taken by ambulance crying and scared #theatershooting #TheaterTrial

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH got IV fluids on way to hospital at CT scan. Same disposition when he returned. Unable to communicate

 

[borndem]

During the nurse's testimony, I kept wanting to ask "unable" or "unwilling" -- how could any medical professional know?

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Nurse had days off and that was last day she had contact with JH
The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Prosecution up for cross

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 55s56 seconds ago
JH wasn't eating or drinking for 48 hours and he didn't know what was going on #theatershooting #TheaterTrial
The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 57s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Pros saying he was stiff on floor and he pops up to get on gurney when in cell.

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 54s54 seconds ago
#theatershooting

He stood up, understood what the gurney was there for

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Nurse says she wasn’t expecting him to get up. Thought they’d have to get him off floor. But, he helped himself

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH got himself on the gurney #theatershooting #TheaterTrial

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s59 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Pros asking about July, when she first observed him

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Her 1st note (July 29th) he was responsive to her, answer ?’s.

 

[zoey]

During the nurse's testimony, I kept wanting to ask "unable" or "unwilling" -- how could any medical professional know?

Mr. Orman is asking good questions! He is bringing it

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

July 31st, 2012: compliant, cooperative. He completed ADL’s (Activities of daily living) Ate, showered, shaved, etc

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Requested and given time out of his cell that day

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH had a TB test. He responded compliantly with brief eye contact.

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 42s42 seconds ago
#theatershooting

August 15, 2012:

Nurse noted that JH had contact lenses delivered to him.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 42s42 seconds ago
#theatershooting

We has given antibiotics for infected nail bed. He asked how antibiotics worked and what kind they were

 

[zoey]

Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting trial: 'Many times he tried to do a backward flip with a cup balanced on his penis... He did not succeed,' nurse testifies.

 

[borndem]

I still wonder if the Nov. 12, etc., incidents & odd behavior was just caused by his not eating or drinking thus getting his electrolytes, etc., out of whack. It certainly didn't seem to take long for him to get better. Hmmmmm. (I am not a medical professional in any way, etc.)

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 34s34 seconds ago
#theatershooting

September 18-19 2012 - Normal routine.

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
In cross of Nurse Paggen, #TheaterShooting DA goes further back than Nov. 2012 -- back to 9 days post-#theatershooting, 1st time she saw him

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 52s52 seconds ago
In cross, #TheaterShooting DA gets Paggen to confirm Holmes' body was rigid when he fell off bunk, but got up on his own to get on gurney

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Prosecution pointing out that in September and October, JH was acting normally

 

[zoey]

Mr. Orman has "nope" down perfectly in JH tone!!!! LOL :laughing:

 

[LyndyLoo]

Well, It appears from admission through Oct 23rd ( professional visit assuming his lawyer's) ALL without incident...I'd bet he's getting pretty bored by now and starting to realize this is going to be how the rest f his life is going to be lie!! We all know how he gets when he's bored :gaah:

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Paggen to DA: Holmes cooperate 11 days post-#theatershooting -- completed "activities of daily living," including eating, showering, shaving