CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 #15

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  • #501
I'm noticing him pacing around while she babbles on and on----she is a hard one to listen to

He looks anxious. He knows this witness cannot be controlled!


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  • #502
Dr. Gur testified the gunman's writings show he had delusions about the end of the world. anica.padilla

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
 Denver, CO
Over time, Dr. Gur says, the delusions in Holmes mind took over his life. She says you can see that in his pre-#theatershooting writing
 
  • #503
Clearly I am in the minority. I'm enjoying Dr Gur's teaching on delusions. Perhaps because I'd identifying symptions of a close mentally ill family member.

I've learned over the years that mental illness touches all at one time or another.
 
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 34s34 seconds ago
Gur said those with greater intelligence seem to be more inclined to develop elaborate delusions, schizophrenia. #theatershooting

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
 Denver, CO
Gur: Higher functioning/more intelligent people - like Holmes pre-#theatershooting - r prone 2 most bizarre delusions due 2 mental capacity.
 
  • #505
Clearly I am in the minority. I'm enjoying Dr Gur's teaching on delusions. Perhaps because I'd identifying symptions of a close mentally ill family member.

I've learned over the years that mental illness touches all at one time or another.


I can partially relate--only because of my mom and her dementia--Let me tell you-she had some doozies!!!! Sadly some were believable!
 
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 44s44 seconds ago
Gur is explaining how schizophrenia works to #theatershooting jurors. Their thoughts "derail." They start with 1 topic and move to another.

Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 43s43 seconds ago
LIVE NOW: #theatershooting trial with defense witness Dr. Raquel Gur on the stand. http://www.courtchatter.com/#!james-holmes
 
  • #507
King asked her to explain 'briefly' disorganized thinking...she's still going on minutes later-where a few sentences would do! Now she's being 'non-responsive'.
tsk! why is king letting her go on about delusions & symptoms that jimmy DID NOT have?
 
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 52s53 seconds ago
"Many times they are loners," Gur says. #theatershooting
 
  • #509
King asked her to explain 'briefly' disorganized thinking...she's still going on minutes later-where a few sentences would do! Now she's being 'non-responsive'.
tsk! why is king letting her go on about delusions & symptoms that jimmy DID NOT have?

don't think he knows how to control her
 
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7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 39s40 seconds ago
Dr. Gur testifies video of gunman after #theatershooting shows “bizarre behavior”
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/aurora-movie-theater-shooting/trial-live …

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 58s59 seconds ago
Finally, King begins asking Gur about JH. She reviewed video of JH in police HQ after #theatershooting bbm

a minute ago

Dr. Gur reviewed video of the gunman in jail right aftDr. Gur says the jail video shows signs of delusional behavior and disorganized thinkinger the arrest - "He was sitting in the cell... he had on his hands brown bags and he was [speaking]... this is not normal." Most people sit quietly, Gur said. anica.padilla

Rick Sallinger ‏@ricksallinger · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting Dr. Raquel Gur compares James Holmes and Unabomber's delusions. Both have high intellect

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Gur says she noted JH's "bizarre behavior" in the police video. It was very childish-type behavior, she says. #theatershooting
 
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Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 27s28 seconds ago
Dr. Gur says the gunman shows signs of delusional behavior and disorganized thinking in jail video right after his arrest. #theatershooting
 
  • #512
Mr. King just got passed the sticky note from his team....:gaah:
 
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Joan block ‏@elenda100 1m1 minute ago
With her high IQ is she delusional in thinking she is making this brief. #theatershooting

^^^^^ I'm wonder if this witness has put her own brain to the test by having multiple MRI's and MRI-F scans..maybe a few PET Scans too?? With her tendency to go off on tangents tends to mean she's if losing train of thought and going off those rails she likes to talk about !! Maybe her hubby can read those scan's and send her off to some institution for care.. She can be deemed not responsible or lacks capacity..No?

ITA---Just trying to hang in there long enough to witness Mr. B.......my only hope! She does tend to go on tangents.
 
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Gur says aside from his writing, Holmes' behavior in interview immediately post-#theatershooting shows more similarly bizarre behavior

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
"Ma'am, we can't talk over each other," King scolds his star witness, Gur. #theatershooting
 
  • #515
She's coming to conclusions in a very non-connected way. To say his actions after arrest is bizarre. "Most people would just sit there". Well, she thinks that people should just sit there.That's a very personal opinion by here & frankly, it's not true. How would someone act after an arrest? She can't conclude that ! IMO
 
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Gur: Negative, anti-social symptoms Holmes developed pre-#theatershooting don't constitute schizophrenia-> "Some people are just quiet
 
  • #517
She's coming to conclusions in a very non-connected way. To say his actions after arrest is bizarre. "Most people would just sit there". Well, she thinks that people should just sit there.That's a very personal opinion by here & frankly, it's not true. How would someone act after an arrest? She can't conclude that ! IMO

I don't think she has watched forensic files or "Jail" type shows on TV----there is bizarre behavior....
 
  • #518
after listening to her I am thinking I'm a little psychotic
 
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  • #520
after listening to her I am thinking I'm a little psychotic

I know exactly what you mean...LOL! I'm thinking "Hey, my train is beginning to derail"
 
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