CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 #16

[MsJosie]

The 30 minute video provided by the defense investigators will NOT be shown. Is that correct?

 

[Maisiebelle]

Currently the Gov. in my state opposes DP--and there is a hold on them while he is in office---we have recently had two DP cases, one for sure didn't get DP the other I think they are still trying--Both (imo) deserve it.

Can the governor put a hold on the DP? Is it his choice or should it be a public vote?


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[cujenn81]

Why did JH parents go to a social worker when his behaviour changed at age 8? Why not therapy? Or do social workers do therapy in the U.S.?


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Yes, licensed SWs can provide therapy. In fact, I considered getting my master's in SW because there are more options (career wise) than if I were to get a master's in clinical psych. They can open their own counseling practice, work in hospitals, with social services, etc.

 

[Maisiebelle]

Yes, licensed SWs can provide therapy. In fact, I considered getting my master's in SW because there are more options (career wise) than if I were to get a master's in clinical psych. They can open their own counseling practice, work in hospitals, with social services, etc.

Wow, very different to my country!


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[Maisiebelle]

The 30 minute video provided by the defense investigators will NOT be shown. Is that correct?

The judge sustained the prosecution objection so I don't think it will be shown.


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[cujenn81]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
Social workers concern about JH was he's non verbal, poor socialization, introverted behaviors & Nintendo obsessed at age 8 #theatershooting

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 34s34 seconds ago
Brauchler reads from report that determined that JH as a child had "oppositional defiant disorder." #theatershooting

Ooooohhh... this is the first I'm hearing of ODD. That dx often evolves into antisocial personality disorder but a medical provider cannot dx someone w/ ASPD until they reach the age of 18.

 

[Maisiebelle]

Ooooohhh... this is the first I'm hearing of ODD. That dx often evolves into antisocial personality disorder but a medical provider cannot dx someone w/ ASPD until they reach the age of 18.

Yes! Someone else said that earlier on in the thread. So many smart people here!


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[zoey]

Can the governor put a hold on the DP? Is it his choice or should it be a public vote?


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apparently he can and has. Court cases are still going on but there is a stay on executions while he is in office

 

[cujenn81]

They don't want to carry out the DP? Or is this to do with the lethal injection? I recall there has been some controversy about the components in the injection.


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I think a large part of it is the lengthy appeals process... but that might play a role in it too. They've been having trouble finding a manufacturer who will sell them to the U.S. (All of the current manufacturers are overseas and not proponents of the DP).

 

[zoey]

Wow, very different to my country!


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I wanted to be a social worker way back when---my dad told me not to---"no money in it"---But that was the area I tested the highest in and interested me the most---sadly I didn't pursue it. Thought that I knew more and golly gee party time! :blushing:

 

[zoey]

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
And the judge and attorneys are back. #theatershooting

Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 58s58 seconds ago
#theatershooting Trial back in session. http://www.courtchatter.com/#!james-holmes-trial-stream-1/cmus …

 

[Maisiebelle]

apparently he can and has. Court cases are still going on but there is a stay on executions while he is in office

Interesting. So while he is in office nobody will be sentenced to death? Or they can be but it won't be carried out while he is in office?

I think a large part of it is the lengthy appeals process... but that might play a role in it too. They've been having trouble finding a manufacturer who will sell them to the U.S. (All of the current manufacturers are overseas and not proponents of the DP).

I think out of all the 3 methods of death the lethal injection seemed to be the most humane (to me). I don't actually know how I feel about the. DP. We don't have it here (UK) so it's not something I have to think about.......


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[Maisiebelle]

I wanted to be a social worker way back when---my dad told me not to---"no money in it"---But that was the area I tested the highest in and interested me the most---sadly I didn't pursue it. Thought that I knew more and golly gee party time! :blushing:

My sister wanted to do social work but ended up doing a different degree. She has worked in social work settings ever since but was restricted in what she could do without the degree. She is going to Uni in September to do a post graduate degree in Social work. She will be 43 when she graduates. She will get there in the end lol!


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[borndem]

The judge sustained the prosecution objection so I don't think it will be shown.


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IIRC, the video was of the def. attys talking to JH. I assume the attys. called it "privileged," so that may be why it is disallowed. Just a thought...

 

[zoey]

Interesting. So while he is in office nobody will be sentenced to death? Or they can be but it won't be carried out while he is in office?



I think out of all the 3 methods of death the lethal injection seemed to be the most humane (to me). I don't actually know how I feel about the. DP. We don't have it here (UK) so it's not something I have to think about.......


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They won't be carried out while he is in office
I can go both ways with DP---

 

[zoey]

My sister wanted to do social work but ended up doing a different degree. She has worked in social work settings ever since but was restricted in what she could do without the degree. She is going to Uni in September to do a post graduate degree in Social work. She will be 43 when she graduates. She will get there in the end lol!


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I really don't understand why I listened to Dad on that one--didn't on others lol.....

 

[Maisiebelle]

I really don't understand why I listened to Dad on that one--didn't on others lol.....

Lol!!


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[MsJosie]

JH swinging in his chair.

I do not think this dr can just answer a question. She talks in circles. MR. B is so patient I do not know how he can do this. The Judge is so patient too and very fair.

 

[Maisiebelle]

How can a person be incapacitated while doing a range of activities?!


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[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 53s54 seconds ago
JH felt incapacitated and unable to move before shooting but records say otherwise #theatershooting #theatertrial