CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 3

[corundogs]

SO...the Defense is calling JH corny, huh?

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

On screen, it says, “Jimmy, answer me please”. He has no problems with jokes, but related to presentation

 

[Hatfield]

HHMMMM...based on Professor Klug's testimony, I am wondering now if this is what Dan and his colleague at the University of Iowa saw, and in no uncertain terms, stated do not admit.

Did his short responses, perceived lack of interest, etc. make them realize he would be wasting their time?

Or did they see something else? I REALLLLLLLLY hope the Prosecutors found them and are planning on calling them!

Since Mr. Brauchler mentioned yesterday about JH being denied in a "half dozen" other programs, I think he might!

I want to see Dan too called to testify. I am so curious what they saw about him to see if it was similar or not.

This is different but the only thing I can relate to about JH is that I have known some book smart people that were not street wise at all.
When they would go out on the town to big city clubs they made all the mistakes about not knowing how to act or protect yourself in a big city atmosphere.

Not quite the same but similar in that they were very smart people and yet made simple stupid mistakes around big city public people. Things like leaving a purse on a chair in a club and go off to dance and not ask anyone to watch it.

Or flashing money when paying for drinks.
Simple stupid mistakes that they had no idea about. Yet were considered brilliant people "on the books".

Not the same as far as mental illness with JH but it strikes me that I can relate to it that way.

 

[zoey]

SO...the Defense is calling JH corny, huh?

I really don't understand what they are doing---sometimes its like hes an upstanding citizen--misunderstood-scholar .....

 

[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
We are looking at Holmes presentation. He used a lame joke that didn't apply #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting . Slide “Let me mull it over” with photo of mullet. People laugh in courtroom

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Klug: Holmes' jokes inserted into presentation weren't off-color, just unrelated to topic. Awkward. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

D: Eval of JH- # other than 2 yellow you’ve discussed - rest were in green (high) category

A: Yes

 

[bexlex]

I really don't understand what they are doing---sometimes its like hes an upstanding citizen--misunderstood-scholar .....

Maybe he is breaking with reality and the proof is that he stuffed his presentation with some garbage to fill it out???

eta or his sense of humor is out of synch with the rest of his colleagues so he must be deteriorating mentally???

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
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D: He was quiet with other students?

A: i mean me. How he interacts with me

 

[corundogs]

OOOOHHHHHHHHH...It finally hit me!

Mr. Brauchler sounds like Kyle Chandler! From Friday Night Lights, and many other wonderful things!

 

[Hatfield]

I really don't understand what they are doing---sometimes its like hes an upstanding citizen--misunderstood-scholar .....

It sounds to me that the defense wants to admit JH was "different" and try to get the jury to feel sorry for him. So the defense will admit certain things about JH that are not too damaging like calling him "corny".

Its probably a defense tactic to try to get the jury to feel sorry for him and admit that he had his faults which were only "minor" according to the defense. When in reality, his faults were "major" of the type that makes him a mass murderer.

Kind of a slick defense tactic if any of the jurors fall for it.

 

[I'mjazzed]

poor, sweet girl....you are a good sibling!

And you are Very Sweet for even saying that! Thank you!
:tyou:

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Pros back up: Response email - Prof wanted to meet with JH about future lab. JH had joined another
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Pros: No big shift in behavior form beginning to end of lab

A: No
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Pros: When she said he got good grades and you wanted to follow up:

A: if you get good grades you’re good at memorizing

 

[zoey]

OOOOHHHHHHHHH...It finally hit me!

Mr. Brauchler sounds like Kyle Chandler! From Friday Night Lights, and many other wonderful things!

I'm still thinking Anderson Cooper

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting
A: a great memory. It’s in your brain. Having good grades doesn’t mean you’ll be a great scientist. Different skill set

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 50s51 seconds ago
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P: Did you see he lacking some needed skills to be a good scientist?

A: Yes

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[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
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Judge wants date of evaluation of rotation.

A: After Nov 21st 2011

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
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Judge: Date of midterm?

A: Mid February 2012.

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 3m3 minutes ago
Attorneys are finished with Klug. Jury has questions. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 37s37 seconds ago
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Jury?: During time w. JH did he seem disconnected with reality

A: No

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[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 37s37 seconds ago
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Jury?: Academics: did he come off as lazy or unmotivated? Succeed on academics, intelligence?

A: Academics - No

 

[I'mjazzed]

I am so glad to hear she is doing better now and that she got through her schooling. It is great to hear she is doing better now.

I can definitely relate to the stress involved with trying to pass classes and taking college tests. My degree was just a normal BS degree and I can just imagine how much harder a PHD type degree would be.

A lot of kids ended up changing their major about 2 years into their schooling and for a lot of them, it was a good move. They would change into a degree that was easier on them and at least give them a good chance of graduating. I saw so many engineering students end up changing their majors to something not so intensive and for most it was a good move for them. For some that tried to stick it out, they sometimes would end up dropping out of school altogether but if they had just changed their major, they would have done fine. Each new semester in the dorm, we would see certain people not show up and we knew they probably dropped out and it was sad.

So many emotions and internal stresses on kids in school.

We are all so different and I saw in my dorm how each person is unique in how they cope with college coursework. Some were bookworms, some took things too easy, some it came naturally and they had photographic memories. Everyone dealt with it their own way.
Everyone was different and it was fascinating to see how each person dealt with it in their own way.

The most common thing I recall us all complaining about is how much harder college/university coursework was than high school. Everyone had the same concensus that we all felt like the roof came in on us. So many people in their Freshman year thought it would be a cakewalk like high school was for some of us. We were in for quite a surprise that freshman year.

I actually got mad at my high school when I realized how little I was prepared for college. My high school stunk. It was way too easy and they should have done much better. I began to realize how bad my high school was when I transferred from my middle school. My middle school was so much better.

When I got to high school , it was all review work for me because my middle school had already taught us all the stuff we were covering.
That was the point I realized how important it was to attend good high schools if you can. Kids need to be prepared for what college is going to throw at them.

Anyway, so glad your sister is doing better now. It is wonderful she went back and finished. And it is a huge accomplishment getting PHD. It is amazing. The amount of work to get a degree like that is truly incredible. Kudos to her.

:tyou:

I admire anyone who puts so much effort into bettering themselves. Its certainly not easy. Its a lot of hard work and effort.
All my siblings went to college and they all made very nice lives for themselves but not without a lot of sacrifice.
I'm the only one who went to work right after HS and then married and had kids..that became my career. lol
I have so much respect for my sister... and people like you.
She REALLY wanted to quit.. I'm glad she didn't.
I know this is OT.. so I'll stop! lol

:tyou:

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 48s49 seconds ago
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Jury?: Are interns given guidelines for lab participation; hours, etc

A: No set hours. Come/go as they please

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Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s58 seconds ago
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A: See how student translates that goal into little steps. Nobody to micromanage

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 36s36 seconds ago
Throughout your time with defendant did he ever seem disconnected with reality? NO #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 53s54 seconds ago
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Jury?: Were most student in grad program older/younger than JH

A: About same age incoming class. Some older if ahead

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 51s52 seconds ago
Klug asked by jury whether Holmes ever seemed disconnected from reality? Clearly, no. #theatershooting

 

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Jury?: Was he immature compared to others?

A: Socially, yes

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s57 seconds ago
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Jury?: Can some student get same results in lab w. much less effort

A: no, you will have to work hard

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
As it pertains to academics did defendant come off as lazy like in labs? NO. #TheaterShooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 52s53 seconds ago
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Follow up ? from pros: ? about academic or hard work. Did you see him put in or results of final?

A: Results

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
Are there set hours for interns? NO...all we care about are results #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Klug said JH appeared socially immature compared to other students. #theatershooting

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Defense follow up: After lab rotation, extent of your interaction. In class?

A: Yes

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
We're most students in program older or younger when he was there? I don't know exact ages..around same for incoming class #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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D: Brief interaction via email

A: Yes, that’s the only exception
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
Was he immature? socially yes #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Professor is finished. They’re going to take morning break. 20 min

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Klug is being dismissed from witness stand. Judge calling a 20-minute break for #theatershooting jury

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