CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #17

[PlainJaneDoe]

Exactly.

If your inner danger alarm is going off every time you see a man walking alone or two teens laughing together or every time the leaves rustle, it isn't very useful as a guide for what to do. Constant alerts can mask a real danger if it ever comes your way.

Jon Krakauer talked about this in his book on the 1996 tragedies on Mt Everest, Into Thin Air. He wrote that he's interviewed many climbers who have given up on summiting on a particular climb for no other reason than that they looked out of their tent and it just didn't feel right, there was a little inner voice telling them not that day. Regarding that inner message had saved more than one climber from disaster.

He said that in his case, his little inner voice is always screaming "YOU'RE GONNA DIEEEEEE!!!" So listening to his inner voice is useless in making a decision as to whether it is safe enough to make a summit bid (on any mountain, not just Everest).

Oh hypervigilance, you make life so....exhausting.

That's how my inner danger alarm is...one continuous beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. I am actually much better than I was even 2 or 3 years ago, but still most days I have to make the conscious choice multiple times throughout the day to ignore the alarm so that I can go about the business of life. It is wearing me out.

 

[Theforeigner]

Things to keep in mind :

The killer is local ( at least that is what police belive)

The killer's DNA is probably NOT in DNA register (if police have his DNA, I belive they do)

Jessica Ridgeway was possibly NOT a random victim (according to police 10/8, however this may have changed since)


If DNA is not the eveidence that link the JR case and the May 28, 2012 Ketner Lake attack, then I belive they have done some kind of VERY detailed analysis of the chemical (on the cloth) the attacker used on the Ketner Lake victim and, chemical they may have found on Jessica Ridgeway, and found a perfect match.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Another point I'd like to bring up(and my apologies for jumping in here as I am still about 300 posts behind in getting caught up) but wanted to mention this before I forgot..

In my attempting to primarily go on just the words from LE I was particularly struck by their now seeming to shift the focus heavily on the actual markings on the cross.. Whereas earlier imo it seemed to be more focus on the cross itself.. In my being struck by this seeming shift in focus I intially thought possibly it was due to their somehow discovering the actual meaning of the 3 stroked markings on the front of the cross.. Their learning these 3stroked markings somehow have a particular meaning of importance to the killer..of course this is all just my personal opinions as to what could have caused LE to want to shift or redirect the publics focus onto those 3 markings..

In following that same line of thought I am wondering if they have discovered the killer has in some other way or rather on some other piece of evidence have "marked" it with those same 3 strokes as seen on the front of the cross?.. I could be way off base with that possibility but imo something has been discovered in their investigation that imo has brought about heavily focusing on the 3 marks.. and I believe for that to have happened it would definitely indicate more, diffferent, specific, or new knowledge would have had to have been learned or discovered by investigators in order to bring about a redirect or shift of focus regarding the cross and now very specifically the 3 stroked markings on the center area of the cross..

What are others thoughts on this?

(*all thoughts and opinions welcomed regardless whether strongly disagree or see it completely differently*)

 

[NC Analyzer]

Oh hypervigilance, you make life so....exhausting.

That's how my inner danger alarm is...one continuous beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. I am actually much better than I was even 2 or 3 years ago, but still most days I have to make the conscious choice multiple times throughout the day to ignore the alarm so that I can go about the business of life. It is wearing me out.

So difficult to live your life like that...it will also lead you to ulcers, heart disease and other related problems as the years go by. Really...read "The Gift of Fear", it is an eye-opener. And it might just help you get a good night's rest! Peace

 

[winterrose]

Ack...interesting to note virginity is significant in this ceremony, as is this -

However, back to the porca praecidanea. Usually this would be a pig. It would be cleansed and sanctified in Ceres' name, sacrificed and the entrails removed. These form the offering to Ceres

http://www.oocities.org/the_pagan_heart/Articles/Festivals/July05.html

The porca praecidanea is the sacrifice. Usually a pig (or other large animal), can be a pumpkin, probably where the Halloween pumpkin came from.

Oh geesh, that freaks me out, I was going to say something about a pig, but didn't want to offend anyone. A number of years ago one of my friends lived in an apt complex and this family not from our country,(below Texas), brought a killed pig from thier trunk. EEK!~

It was Easter and everyone assumed they were having pig for their meal, I guess part of the pig, because the skin of it was thrown over the rail. It had to be explained to them by the management since everyone was pretty much freaked out, that we don't do those things here. There's like healthlaws and diseases. I wondered where in the heck would they have even killed a pig and then to throw it in the back of their trunk and into a building. Dang! Now I'm wondering was it for a Easter meal. If this is offending anyone, I'll delete, but the timings and such of all this is, plus the cross is really making me start to wonder something.

 

[DizZ]

You could also consider a government position - some have every other Friday off, plus all Federal holidays (that can make for long weekends around Memorial Day and Columbus Day).

Next observed Federal holiday, Veterans Day November 12, 2012 (Monday)

 

[Etilema]

Don't know of any friends who actually listen to the radio anymore...got a couple who listen to NPR....but that has nothing to do with anything current.....

Maybe it's not a good thing...but been years since I actually listened to "Radio".....

BBM

But, of course, there are those who do. Many people, it seems, can't ride in the car without flipping the radio on.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Well,I don't know what happened to Jessica.I do not get involved with too many cases.Just mainly with the unidentified.This case has really bothered me.I just don't understand why her killer had to cut her up.I really want justice for this little girl and I pray they find who killed her and justice is done for her.I know the real justice will be with God.But I have always felt Justice should be here too.Just like the unidentified deserve their name on their grave with respect and the truth.

 

[JustyThoughts]

Can't believe there was yet another attempted abduction of a child this week. So happy the child was able to get away; Thank God. The feelings/fear over the communities of Denver must be much like the feelings here in Atlanta during the Missing and Murdered Children cases back in the 1980. It is not a good way to live. All parents, indeed all in the commiunity need to be even more aware and "see" things that we normally don't give a second thought about. Prayers for the Denver community and for those seeking the truth about person(s) guilty of these vile acts.

 

[Elley Mae]

Next observed Federal holiday, Veterans Day November 12, 2012 (Monday)

The thing is Jessica was kidnapped on a Friday 5th not Monday the 8th(Columbus Day).

 

[SmoothOperator]

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/295794/346/Brighton-Police-investigate-attempted-abduction

The other link for this abduction wasn't working for me for some reason, maybe this is the new one they've added.

First thanks for noting my above link to yesterdys abduction is no longer working(i wonder why?)..but yes, the above linked abduction is from today and is a different vehicle as well..

There is something really crazy going on here and I dont believe these are all the work of Jessica's perp.. So is his eluding arrest somehow encouraging all of these predators to suddenly act on their desires?.. Thats just plain crazy and i mean that as in crazy not in the obvious sense..

There is somethong not adding up for me..

Eta- I just realized you may not have been eevn speaking of my link but nonetheess it alertd me to the fact that my link is no longer working when just a few hours ago it worked fine for me and others....???

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Jessica Ridgeway was NOT a random victim (according to police)

Can you (anyone) point me in the right direction to where police said this?

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

So difficult to live your life like that...it will also lead you to ulcers, heart disease and other related problems as the years go by. Really...read "The Gift of Fear", it is an eye-opener. And it might just help you get a good night's rest! Peace

I put it on my Amazon wish list. I have seen it recommended so many times on here!

a good night's rest is a beautiful thing.

 

[tnhybrid]

From a ways back:

maybe, maybe, probably. These three things made me think about the case of Elizabeth Ann Metzler from Md. She was kidnapped from bus stop and found murdered. The killer placed her "things" all around the area (I lived there) as if he was taunting LE, (my dad was one) It was said after he confessed that he was involved in the searches. This was back in the early 70's it was a few years later he was in prison for a sex offense and one of the main detectives was at the prison and Chaney ( the killer ) told the detective he had something to tell him. What he told him was that he killed Elizabeth and the detective asked him to describe her underpants and he did. It was something that they never told the public. It was scary times, her body was found about a mile from where I lived.

Without putting too fine a point on it, I'm somewhat scarred for life from having grown up in the same era and very near where some of the victims of the Wichita, KS BTK killer Dennis Rader were taken. He patterned himself on the Zodiac, sent letters to the press, etc. Turned out, the guy once worked for a home security company! Aiee!

(To this day - and I'm over 40 - I don't like to be at home alone at night, to the point I consider a hotel with a room on a high floor if Hubs is out of town, and I will not watch slasher movies under any circumstances. People think I'm a weirdo but then, they didn't hear that then-anonymous recording of Rader over and over, 50 times a day broadcast on every station in Wichita, throughout all of 1979.)

Also, we had a serial rapist caught near where I live now in Nashville - also worked for a security consultant. Might be worth a look.

 

[winterrose]

First thanks for noting my above link to yesterdys abduction is no longer working(i wonder why?)..but yes, the above linked abduction is from today and is a different vehicle as well..

There is something really crazy going on here and I dont believe these are all the work of Jessica's perp.. So is his eluding arrest somehow encouraging all of these predators to suddenly act on their desires?.. Thats just plain crazy and i mean that as in crazy not in the obvious sense..

There is somethong not adding up for me..

Eta- I just realized you may not have been eevn speaking of my link but nonetheess it alertd me to the fact that my link is no longer working when just a few hours ago it worked fine for me and others....???

It very well could be, because the son who just did this to his mother is not linked to this case.

 

[Backwoods]

Can't believe there was yet another attempted abduction of a child this week. So happy the child was able to get away; Thank God. The feelings/fear over the communities of Denver must be much like the feelings here in Atlanta during the Missing and Murdered Children cases back in the 1980. It is not a good way to live. All parents, indeed all in the commiunity need to be even more aware and "see" things that we normally don't give a second thought about. Prayers for the Denver community and for those seeking the truth about person(s) guilty of these vile acts.

bbm: Wow, that takes me back -- I remember that horrible aura, hearing "another child" on newscasts, etc., as I was in college in Atlanta during that time.

 

[Considering]

mm2005 or even a hospital worker 3 or 4 days on and 3 or 4 days off type thing.

A hospital worker is an interesting idea. What type of chemicals might be available to a hospital worker that he could put on a cloth and use to make someone unconscious?

 

[JustyThoughts]

Somewhere back in these 1000s of posts (I believe it was quoting either LE or was someone doing a news report) there was a mention that "it may be a group involved"- or something like that (sorry I have no link). Does anyone else recall anything like that?

I too am very sad that JR's death was so "savage". Makes me sick that someone would do that to a sweet little girl. I'm hoping and believing that the evil doer will be found and hope that person(s) suffer in this world for their actions.

 

[mm2005]

The thing is Jessica was kidnapped on a Friday 5th not Monday the 8th(Columbus Day).

I believe the comment about Veteran's Day was relevant because of my suggestion to consider government employees, who commonly work compressed schedules with every other Friday off, or just take the Friday off before a Federal holiday for a long weekend. =)

 

[Backwoods]

I put it on my Amazon wish list. I have seen it recommended so many times on here!

a good night's rest is a beautiful thing.

At WS recommendation, I've had it on my wish list for a while now at the online "book swap" of which I'm a member -- but I haven't gotten a copy yet! Maybe it's one of those books folks read and then hang onto!