CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #20

[Just K]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/344...ller-was-sweet

Thank you for that link! I've had an uneasy feeling all along that the perp may not have been working alone. AS's ex girlfriend relates (in the above-linked story):

This article has glaring mistakes. The person that saw him two times on the Stanley Lake trail is a late 20-something woman by the name of Christine or Christin (or Kristin.)

Just watch the video...even though it jumps from the GF in shadow to the woman with her dog. These media sites need to be much more careful.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Anonymous did-Google "Operation DarkNet"

Problem is, they ended up creating serious issues for the FBI which was investigating a few of those sites...IIRC, they may have actually "outed" an undercover agent!

Do you know -- or does anyone know -- if these sites are set up to auto erase? Or whatever the technical IT lingo would be? Excuse my non-tech saavy-ness. Before you posted about the dark net research you'd done, I was wondering if he had time to clear his computer before he confessed/turned himself in/got arrested. Also if his hacker skills are good enough to make tracking his search history or saved files/documents difficult. I'm gonna go with 'no' on that one... if Robert Hanson couldn't outsmart his CIA cohorts, ARS and his amateur attempts at CSI skills probably won't trip up authorities. Now that I'm typing this, I wonder if he saved anything from his computer onto flashdrives or other media and hid them. Again I'd be inclined to say no because I don't think he expected LE to be onto him so quick or for his mom to turn him in.. but we can't be sure. Still just throwing it out. Back to my original question which I've managed to get far away from, those dark web sites, if AS was going to them would they be traceable to LE or do they self erase?

I'm not making sense. My mind is self erasing. Break/naptime.

 

[raeann]

Guys, stay off the dark side of the internet. Please.

If you go there, more than once, regardless of your intentions, the Feds will latch onto you and try to see if you are looking at kiddie , murder films, and so forth. If you are selling, receiving, making and distributing. Just don't go.

If Sigg was there and any is to be found the Feds involved will have it. They really do NOT need us to do it. Nor do they need us to get charges, go to jail, go to Court, go back to jail, and forever be a registered sex offender.

Just say no. Lol.

LOL well I'm safe as I still haven't got even the foggiest of clues what that is, where it is or how one would even attempt to go there in the first place. Some things I accept that I will never know or understand and that is just fine with me.


jmo

 

[callyn]

These are horrifying details about Jessica Ridgeway and her uterus etc. But when I search I only find the WS post in this thread. Is there any MSM coverage about this? I've seen no references to this in court coverage today.

IIRC there was speculation about the uterus being removed because LE couldn't determine sex right away.

I have not seen anything in MSM or that LE has said that states that the uterus was removed.

 

[winterrose]

I believe Mom found things or knew, esp from the cross, confronted him and to make it look better it's coming out he confessed. I don't believe for a second he was finished, but he got caught.

 

[Wondergirl]

I believe he has a post office box in Denver. Yesterday in searches it kept coming up Austin R Sigg po box xxxxx Denver, Co. It wouldn't surprise me if he had one there to get things sent he didn't want to come to the house.

Did you get the PO Box? I had it once yesterday, and now I can't find it.

I thought the same thing.

 

[SailorMoon]

Thinking about the hairdo, readily coming forward with details and waiving his rights.. does anyone else get the feeling this confession came at a time when the world was focused on another case (in NJ)? And were ignoring him for the first time in weeks?

BINGO!! I thought this exact thing yesterday. It was like, notice me, notice me, notice me.

 

[cluciano63]

http://www.lpdirect.net/casb/crs/19-2-511.html

Some legal stuff about juvenile confessions for Colorado. Sounds like it could be valid as long as a parent was with him and/or if the court finds he was aware he was waiving his rights. If his mother was NOT present, the confession is likely to be thrown out, from what I can determined from the first paragraph.

 

[izzyblizzy]

Not me. I think his confession is b/c mom saw the cross in the news and started putting 2 and 2 together. He couldn't hide it anymore. He told mom, mom called LE, not him.

He confessed b/c they were going to find everything after mom called anyway. They had his DNA.

Did he do this to be "known"? I don't know. I think he may have done this just to see if he could, rather than steal beer or condoms like most teens would.

Oh and the stealing beer comment. We stole beer once from a summer cabin and actually left a note that said "Sorry for taking your beer" ...and left $5 as payment. That is what we did as teens to be rebellious!

 

[RoseWhite]

So many things that can't be undone. It is cruel.

Taking a break for a while.

 

[beach]

Count me among those who is NOT buying the details of his "confession". He killed her right away? In his car? Bull*****. If she was in his car, a relatively enclosed space, why would he need to HOG TIE her? Why would he need to hog tie her PERIOD if he wasn't trying to prevent her from escaping? No sexual assault? Yeah, OK. Am I reading this correctly-he removed her UTERUS? That sick f***. I can only think of ONE reason why a uterus would be removed from a little girl's body, and that is to conceal the sexual assault. Because without getting to explicit here, a little girl has smaller anatomy and it is not uncommon for the cervix to be injured if there is forced sexual penetration. AND AS A FORENSIC EXPERT I'M SURE HE KNEW THAT.

I wish to GOD I could believe that Jessica was killed immediately, and that she wasn't raped by this MONSTER but I do not buy it. A person who has to dismember because MURDER is just not enough on it's own to get his rocks off is a sadistic FREAK.

Oh, and just for the record-I made a post yesterday saying I had compassion for him. This was before I knew ANY of the details, all I knew was that he confessed to his mommy, possibly had an abusive father and was bullied in school. Knowing what I know now, I have not one ounce of compassion for this wretched man. And yes, he is a MAN, not a little boy. He is 2 months shy of being 18 and I'm tired of people (no one here, just generally) talking about him like he's a child.

UGH. I am so SICK right now!

Jessica, I'm so sorry baby girl, you should be playing waitress right now, or making a nest in your bed, or putting the finishing touches on your zombie cheerleader costume.

You should be ANYWHERE but in this ******* *******'s CRAWLSPACE :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

BBM

hey guys, I haven't been able to keep up today. My offline life is interferring, dadgummit! lol

So, obviously I haven't kept up with today's news. Where did this specific detail come from? We need to link this stuff up.

 

[The Farm]

Not me. I think his confession is b/c mom saw the cross in the news and started putting 2 and 2 together. He couldn't hide it anymore. He told mom, mom called LE, not him.

He confessed b/c they were going to find everything after mom called anyway. They had his DNA.

Did he do this to be "known"? I don't know. I think he may have done this just to see if he could, rather than steal beer or condoms like most teens would.

I have been thinking that exact same thing.

 

[winterrose]

I'm still waiting to hear if he was involved or committed the murder of the woman dismembered about 20 miles away and left under the apple tree. She was also murdered somewhere else and placed there.

 

[LotusPawprint]

There has been no mention of it in MSM only on websleuths. It was posted a few threads ago by someone who said they heard it as a rumor.

Agreed. The first time I read someone mention it here, they were asked to provide a link to MSM or was it just speculation. I believe they said it was a rumor and they were a local out on CO. There were a couple other posters who said the same, but I haven't seen any article MSM or otherwise to even suggest this.

 

[beach]

These are horrifying details about Jessica Ridgeway and her uterus etc. But when I search I only find the WS post in this thread. Is there any MSM coverage about this? I've seen no references to this in court coverage today.

There has been no mention of it in MSM only on websleuths. It was posted a few threads ago by someone who said they heard it as a rumor.

Whoa horsie!

Until we have a link, forget y'all ever heard that rumor. I'm sorry that post was missed by a mod or it would have been stopped before now.

This case is horrifying enough. It may turn out to be true, but it also may turn out to be a game of telephone rumor spreading.

Out of respect for Jessica and her family, we're not gonna go there until we have proof.

 

[vega]

Disclaimer: the following comments are MOO....:moo::moo::moo:

I do not buy into any of the supposed confession that has been leaked. At some point in the crime, could he have tied her up with rope, certainly plausible. Did he strangle her to death, again possible. Did he do all that while still in her neighborhood, unlikely. So those two things could have happened at some point in time, but the question is when and where ? At what point in the timeline did these and many other things happen ? I think the ME's report will shed some light on this.

I listened in on the early morning Channel 9 live coverage this morning, one of the reporters mentioned LE interviewed him for 6 hours after he turned himself in. So we may have as much as 6 hours of details missing from the simplified (leaked) version of his confession.

I hope LE researches any connection between those youtube video's and AS. My concern is, like others here are also now raising as a possibility, AS may not be alone in this crime, there may be an accomplice still at large in this case. I would also hope LE makes sure to account for all of the fingerprints found in the home or vehicle.

 

[DylansMom34]

Obviously some horrible and gruesome things happened to Jessica. I don't see the need to speculate on every horrific detail. In deference to her family, loved ones, classmates, etc., who may be reading.

 

[jpcolorado]

Oh, it would be more than $600K now, probably, but he bought it 10 years ago. ... ok ... I found the sales price, $679K in 2000. And yes, you can get a TON more for your money out there. But ... you're waaaay out there, you know? If that spread was in Cherry Hills, it's more like $3mil ...

If you look at the property records, the home was purchased by someone else in June 2000 and quit claim deeded to RS in 2003 for no cost. You never know. RS could have found himself a sugar mamma after divorcing MS in 2001, which could explain the lavish vacation digs.

Yes, you can get a lot more home the further you go from Denver. Parker is 20+ miles away from Denver. That home would fetch $2MM+ in Cherry Hills, more in Cherry Creek.

 

[Kat]

Guys, stay off the dark side of the internet. Please.

If you go there, more than once (sometimes once is enough), regardless of your intentions, the Feds will latch onto you and try to see if you are looking at kiddie , murder films, and so forth. If you are selling, receiving, making and distributing. Just don't go.
If Sigg was there and any is to be found the Feds involved will have it. They really do NOT need us to do it. Nor do they need us to get charges, go to jail, go to Court, go back to jail, and forever be a registered sex offender.

Just say no. Lol.

DON'T POST DARK SIDE LINKS!!!!

Yes they do. I would never ever go into one of those websites, chatrooms and other places they have set up for this purpose. I've been to some unsavory sites over the years but none of those. I never had an interest. Most of those ppl in there use IP hiding software and etc. Going in there to have a lookieloo is like stapling a target to your back and walking out onto a shooting range. It's a no go in my opinion.

Mysticrose:

Do we have a thread about the women found under the apple tree? I vaguely remember that or I am remembering another here. TIA!

 

[DeAnn]

Disclaimer: the following comments are MOO....:moo::moo::moo:

I do not buy into any of the supposed confession that has been leaked.

I hope LE researches any connection between those youtube video's and AS. My concern is, like others here are also now raising as a possibility, AS may not be alone in this crime, there may be an accomplice still at large in this case. I would also hope LE makes sure to account for all of the fingerprints found in the home or vehicle.

On a side note: I listened in on the early morning Channel 9 live coverage this morning, one of the reporters mentioned LE interviewed him for 6 hours after he turned himself in.

Jessica's own great-grandmother thinks (and sounds like she spoke on behalf of her and Jessica's father) that a second person was involved much like the DC sniper case.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/19903905/family-wants-to-just-burn-accused-killer-of-jessica-ridgeway