CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct. 2012 - #23

[KaaBoom]

Can someone please help me understand why there are 4 1st degree murder charges? Is murder during a kidnapping always classified as 1st degree murder? Is it that type of thing?

They are different counts of the same charge. So the jury will be able to pick and choose which one, they want to convict him of. It increases the likelihood of a conviction. For example if the jury members can't all agree that he intended to kill the girl, they can find him guilty of one of the other counts instead.


COUNT 1~MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (F1)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully, feloniously,
after deliberation, and with the intent to cause the death of a person
other than himself, caused the death of Jessica Ridgeway; in violation
of section 18-3-102(1)(a), C.R.S.

COUNT 2-MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (Fl)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully and
feloniously, acting alone, committed kidnapping, and in the course of
or in furtherance of that crime, caused the death of Jessica Ridgeway,
not a participant in the crime; in violation of section 18-3-
102(1)(b), C.R.S.

COUNT 3-MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (F1)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully and
feloniously, acting alone, committed robbery, and in the course of or
in furtherance of that crime, caused the death of Jessica Ridgeway,
not a participant in the crime; in violation of section 18-3-
lO2(1)(b), C.R.S.

COUNT 4-MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (Fl)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully and
feloniously, acting alone, committed sexual assault, and in the course
of or in furtherance of that crime, caused the death of Jessica
Ridgeway, not a participant in the crime; in violation of section 18-
3-102(1)(b), C.R.S.

 

[nikb]

Quoting from the previous poster....I take umbrage with the "oven" remark, but there is value in the photograph. I believe the photos may be public domain.

OT, but when I had a creepy neighbor photographing my son, I was told by LE that as long as the photographer was not using Zoom into my house..or in other words, invading personal/private space, he was allowed to photograph anything outside my doors.

I circled in yellow THE LAUNDRY ROOM...... EXHAUST VENTS!!!!!

The laundry room was right off of the garage if not in it! UTILITY sink!!!


grrr...gonna get edited

ETA: checking Amanda's photos to make sure this wasn't photoshopped.

First off I'm so glad your son's ok, what a horrible experience!

FWIW I think you're right on the laundry room, although sometimes if it's been moved the location of the exterior vents might've changed or there could be more than one set of vents.

I also definitely agree with the assessment on the other pic about the spark arrestor for the fireplace. When we bought our house quite a few years ago and it didn't have one, it was one of the first things both our realtor and home inspector pointed out.

Not so sure about the oven though. Is it common to have an oven built in like that in CO? Where I live it'd be rare, so just wondering.

 

[nikb]

They are different counts of the same charge. So the jury will be able to pick and choose which one, they want to convict him of. It increases the likelihood of a conviction. For example if the jury members can't all agree that he intended to kill the girl, they can find him guilty of one of the other counts instead.


COUNT 1~MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (F1)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully, feloniously,
after deliberation, and with the intent to cause the death of a person
other than himself, caused the death of Jessica Ridgeway; in violation
of section 18-3-102(1)(a), C.R.S.

COUNT 2-MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (Fl)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully and
feloniously, acting alone, committed kidnapping, and in the course of
or in furtherance of that crime, caused the death of Jessica Ridgeway,
not a participant in the crime; in violation of section 18-3-
102(1)(b), C.R.S.

COUNT 3-MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (F1)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully and
feloniously, acting alone, committed robbery, and in the course of or
in furtherance of that crime, caused the death of Jessica Ridgeway,
not a participant in the crime; in violation of section 18-3-
lO2(1)(b), C.R.S.

COUNT 4-MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE (Fl)
On or about October 5, 2012, AUSTIN REED SIGG unlawfully and
feloniously, acting alone, committed sexual assault, and in the course
of or in furtherance of that crime, caused the death of Jessica
Ridgeway, not a participant in the crime; in violation of section 18-
3-102(1)(b), C.R.S.

Thanks so much for the very detailed description! That's what I thought, but it was helpful seeing it laid out like this.

 

[SapphireSteel]

where?
And if they are positively linked and he was charged for one (if that is the case) why wasn't he charged for the other?

I have seen the media basically try to tie anything unsolved to this kid.. but not the police.

If you look at the WPD twitter and facebook links they only refer to the memorial day incident. (the official source of information for the case)

I never said they were positively linked, which is why my post carried a :cow:

I just came back to edit my post to say "police suspect a link" which is what I had read, but you had already quoted me.

:waitasec:

 

[johan555]

link http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/sigg-home.jpg

 

[alexandra]

I believe the newspaper is correct that he may have a previous charge or charges. Makes me wonder about the woman that was found in the creek or if there are other possibilities given the statement he has a previous record.

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I apologize if this has been covered in detail, but speaking of the woman who was found dead in the creek. Did anyone ever find articles that gave her identity? I researched it a while back and was able to only find articles about her body being found and nothing beyond. TIA

 

[foxbluff]

couldn't find much about it.....


Sigg's former classmates at Standley Lake High said he was smart and nice and walked and talked to kids who looked like they were alone. He enjoyed computers, liked computer games, helped in the computer lab and bragged about his skills to hack into computer programs.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ent-in-jessica-ridgeway-abduction-murder-case

My post here is slightly O/T from the subj you were discussing...

BBM - This comment by AS's former classmates just "went all over me." Isn't it odd how somebody's innocent words can be read differently?!?

 

[SapphireSteel]

The suspect in the May attack was described as a light-skinned man who ranged in age from 18 to his 30s. He had brown hair, a medium build and was about 5 feet 6 inches to 5 feet 8 inches tall. The man was wearing a dark blue baseball cap, small-rim sunglasses, a black T-shirt and blue jeans.

A similar incident occurred in July 2010, when a man chased a female jogger near the lake. Police said that man's description was similar to the assailant in the jogger attack.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ent-in-jessica-ridgeway-abduction-murder-case

I personally don't think LE would have used the term "similar" twice (eg, once for the circumstances, then again for the perp) if they didn't have a strong suspicion.

I think they would have used language such as "unsure at this stage".

But hell, what do I know?

:dunno:

 

[Marnie]

link http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/sigg-home.jpg

Are now you placing doubt with this photo as to my version of vents being "uplighting?

 

[SapphireSteel]

I apologize if this has been covered in detail, but speaking of the woman who was found dead in the creek. Did anyone ever find articles that gave her identity? I researched it a while back and was able to only find articles about her body being found and nothing beyond. TIA

Good question.

I'm wondering if this kid is a seasoned predator.

:furious:

 

[johan555]

this was also in the same area

Officials: Human remains found in Colorado are missing Chicago man
May 27, 2012|By Becky Schlikerman | Tribune reporter

Colorado authorities believe they have found the remains of a Chicago hiker missing since October 2010, according to a news release from the Sheriff's Department in Eagle County, Colorado.

Authorities said a camper found an abandoned campsite near Holy Cross City, a ghost town in the White River National Forest near Minturn, Colo., Friday. The next day, police hiked to the location, apparently the camp site used by James Nelson, 31, of Chicago's Ravenswood neighborhood, and found human remains, authorities said.

Nelson's fiance reported him missing in October 2010 after he failed to return from his five-day, 25-mile hike of the Holy Cross Wilderness Area.

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Twitter: @schlikerman

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/..._1_chicago-hiker-chicago-man-matthew-frizzell

 

[SapphireSteel]

this was also in the same area

Officials: Human remains found in Colorado are missing Chicago man
May 27, 2012|By Becky Schlikerman | Tribune reporter

Colorado authorities believe they have found the remains of a Chicago hiker missing since October 2010, according to a news release from the Sheriff's Department in Eagle County, Colorado.

Authorities said a camper found an abandoned campsite near Holy Cross City, a ghost town in the White River National Forest near Minturn, Colo., Friday. The next day, police hiked to the location, apparently the camp site used by James Nelson, 31, of Chicago's Ravenswood neighborhood, and found human remains, authorities said.

Nelson's fiance reported him missing in October 2010 after he failed to return from his five-day, 25-mile hike of the Holy Cross Wilderness Area.

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[email protected]

Twitter: @schlikerman

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/..._1_chicago-hiker-chicago-man-matthew-frizzell

I don't think ARS would attack a fully grown man.

He prefers those weaker than himself, women and children.

My opinion only.
:cow:

 

[DylansMom34]

The male remains found in Minturn, is probably 110 miles or so from the remains that were found in the Platte River near Westminster. So a bit of a distance.

 

[johan555]

Human Remains Found By College Soccer Team

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -

New details coming out about the human remains found in the woods behind an apartment complex in Colorado Springs. Investigators spent much of Saturday afternoon searching the woods for evidence.

It was the Colorado College soccer team who originally found the remains while picking up trash behind the San Juan Villa Apartments. "The neighborhood was going to have lunch for the boys. It was really going to be a festive occasion," said Colorado College Soccer Coach Horst Richardson.

While cleaning up the area, one of the players found something that he wasn't expecting. "After lifting a sleeping bag off of a pile of rubble, he discovered the remnants of a body," said Richardson.

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http://www.krdo.com/news/Human-Rema...Team/-/417220/14813786/-/uxhlkvz/-/index.html

 

[i.b.nora]

I think that what is being identified as laundry vents on the front of the house, is an electrical fixture. JMO.

 

[human]

I strongly suspect that this is urban legend, come to life again. I heard the very same urban legend in the 1960s except for the name Skittles. It wasn't true then and I strongly doubt that it is true now.

I think it's like fashion, wait around long enough and the same things come back in a slightly changed form. Otherwise known as "don't throw away a cashmere sweater."

where I live, they do have the parties but maybe it's over. There was a boy from a very prominent family that died from such a party maybe three years ago.

It was front page news for awhile

 

[cindersoot]

Has this kid been charged with anymore murders?

 

[enzeder]

I apologize if this has been covered in detail, but speaking of the woman who was found dead in the creek. Did anyone ever find articles that gave her identity? I researched it a while back and was able to only find articles about her body being found and nothing beyond. TIA

I've only been able to find these article thus far.

Wheat Ridge police investigate woman's body in Clear Creek
06/29/2011
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18377513

Police identify woman's body found in Clear Creek
Wednesday, June 29th, 2011
http://wheatridge.kdvr.com/news/news/police-identify-womans-body-found-clear-creek/71932

Woman’s Body Found On Hiking Trail In Wheat Ridge
June 29, 2011
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/06/29/womans-body-found-on-hiking-trail-in-wheat-ridge/

Passer-by finds woman's body in Clear Creek
06/30/2010
http://www.denverpost.com/latin/ci_15405487

Body of young woman found in Clear Creek
06/30/2011
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_18381728#ixzz2B0cf96PN

Here's my original post regarding the "Body of young woman found in Clear Creek"
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[absentia]

ARS is accused of the Ketner Park attempt, which LE believe was the same perp as an earlier failed Ketner Park attempt way back in June/July 2010 IIRC.

That's over 2 years ago so if he's 17 now, he was only 15 in 2010. I wonder if somehow his parents knew/suspected his activities and that is why the "sexual addiction counselling" started at 15?

This kid has been active for a very long time...and from a very young age.

I can't help but think that there have been blind eyes turned by a lot of people. You don't just get up one day and attempt to kidnap a grown adult when you're 15 unless there has been some serious escalation beforehand.

Thank God his mother turned him in this time.

Questions need to be asked about his past, and the adults in his past, about who knew what when.

Did his parents/counsellor KNOW about the 2010 attempt? And if so, should they be prosecuted for not reporting this crime?

:banghead:

and has Kayleah Wilson's killer been identified? I know there was some conversation about whether she could have been one of AS' earlier victims.

 

[Ransom]

Has this kid been charged with anymore murders?

No ....