CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #3

[~n/t~]

I wouldn't put it past some sick, deranged person to "toy" with LE.

You could be right. Have there been any cases of child sex offenders doing something like this? I can't think of any offhand but perhaps others do.

 

[Amster]

Maybe....parents of school age kids should list someone other than themselves as the contact person if they work the graveyard shift.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Just a comment regarding the possibility of searching the landfill. If God forbid, the perp disposed of Jessica in a dumpster, why wouldn't he/she have disposed of her back pack at the same time? Do we really believe the perp is taunting LE and the public by "staging" the back pack?

This case reminds me so much of Somer Thompson's case but the bookbag being left in plain sight reminds me of Sierra Lamar's case when so many were convinced she had left her purse in plain sight where it could easily be found.....which turned out not to be the case.

Maybe they put it there since children often leave school stuff scattered there. Maybe that area is familiar. Maybe they did this because they didnt want to be caught with it in their car or home.

Personally I just think it was a convenient place to leave it. Imo they put it there and moved on quickly.

IMO

 

[nursebeeme]

You could be right. Have there been any cases of child sex offenders doing something like this? I can't think of any offhand but perhaps others do.

I think the backpack (the where and the why it was placed there) is very vital piece to the puzzle. :twocents:

I seriously cannot wrap my mind around it. Maybe some angles to look at would be the who:

1) if placed there by the perp how and why was it placed there?

2) if placed there by someone else how and why?

 

[MissGhoulina]

Maybe....parents of school age kids should list someone other than themselves as the contact person if they work the graveyard shift.

Seems like that would be common knowledge. We are REQUIRED to list 2 additional emergency contacts. We only have one vehicle, so when he is at work or school, it's extremely helpful to have someone else we can depend on.

 

[perpetual curiosity]

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[oceanblueeyes]

I think the backpack (the where and the why it was placed there) is very vital piece to the puzzle. :twocents:

I seriously cannot wrap my mind around it. Maybe some angles to look at would be the who:

1) if placed there by the perp how and why was it placed there?

2) if placed there by someone else how and why?

It may have been placed there as a diversionary tactic.

It was found 6 miles from where Jessica went missing, correct?

Maybe wanting to throw LE off that the perp or Jessica is in that area when she nor the perp is in that area.

IMO

 

[Luckyswife]

Maybe....parents of school age kids should list someone other than themselves as the contact person if they work the graveyard shift.

I listed my sister and next door neighbor as emergency contacts when I worked nights..but because Jessica was only marked absent, and not involved in an emergency situation at/during school they wouldn't call need to call the emergency numbers. Typically just an automated call home letting the parents know the child was marked absent.

 

[MissSunshine]

I am actually impressed that the school even called because she was absent. My daughter's (elementary) school doesn't even call if she misses a day and my son's (middle) school calls at 8pm if he missed school.

Is it common practice in other places for school to call when a child isn't there? If so, I am thinking I need to call the schools and have a talk with them about making phone calls to the homes of absent children.

Maybe....parents of school age kids should list someone other than themselves as the contact person if they work the graveyard shift.

 

[otto]

Seems like that would be common knowledge. We are REQUIRED to list 2 additional emergency contacts. We only have one vehicle, so when he is at work or school, it's extremely helpful to have someone else we can depend on.

At the start of each school year, we have a pile of forms to complete. There is a category for emergency contact. That includes two people (parents or guardians), with home, work, and cell phone numbers. These emergency numbers are needed in the event that a child is injured at school. For absences, from kindergarten until the 9th grade, the school phoned within the first hour of the day to notify me if my child was absent - and that only happened if I forgot to notify them. After the 10 grade, the automated absentee calls came in the evening. It is normal practice for the school to make the call to the home and leave a message if no one answers. I don't think any school has the resources to track down each parent for each student that is absent in the event that the first call goes to an answering machine. The assumption is always that the child is simply at home, or skipping, not that the child is abducted.

 

[cakegirl0905]

Do we really believe the perp is taunting LE and the public by "staging" the back pack?

*snipped by me*

Yes.

 

[gam]

I am actually impressed that the school even called because she was absent. My daughter's (elementary) school doesn't even call if she misses a day and my son's (middle) school calls at 8pm if he missed school.

Is it common practice in other places for school to call when a child isn't there? If so, I am thinking I need to call the schools and have a talk with them about making phone calls to the homes of absent children.

Hit and miss calling here for the elementary. I don't know on the middle school, but high school they don't call till after 6pm.

Yep I think all of us should have some talks with our home school districts, that don't seem to have good plans.

 

[GulfCoastKAT]

I am actually impressed that the school even called because she was absent. My daughter's (elementary) school doesn't even call if she misses a day and my son's (middle) school calls at 8pm if he missed school.

Is it common practice in other places for school to call when a child isn't there? If so, I am thinking I need to call the schools and have a talk with them about making phone calls to the homes of absent children.

In our parish, I get a call by 10am if either my kindergartener or my senior is absent. It is just a one time automated call though. They do not call to actually speak with me.

 

[Coldpizza]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...096664564440.440652.6181619439&type=1&theater

denver post facebook: today's front page

Pretty lengthy article

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...-jessicas-return-investigators-probe-wyo-case

 

[Amster]

I listed my sister and next door neighbor as emergency contacts when I worked nights..but because Jessica was only marked absent, and not involved in an emergency situation at/during school they wouldn't call need to call the emergency numbers. Typically just an automated call home letting the parents know the child was marked absent.

That's what I mean....if a parent knows they won't be answering their phone, don't list your number as a contact. Grandma lived there. Put her as the primary contact person and others as emergency contacts. The school can't be responsible for everything! All the paperwork sent home and when the child is enrolled explains all of this.

 

[Eileen730]

Maybe....parents of school age kids should list someone other than themselves as the contact person if they work the graveyard shift.

I have 3 ppl on my contact list! ours cell numbers and work numbers! so they have 6 numbers they can call.

 

[mmmagique]

Where I live in KY, live people call from the elementary school around 10:30 am or so. They just leave a message if you don't answer.

The middle school leaves an automated message around 11 am.

 

[SuziQ]

KDVR FOX31 Denver ‏@KDVR
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Another example of semantic LE speak that usually turns out not to be true. And everytime I hear this I pray this time it will be true. lease:

 

[Coldpizza]

Land, water searches continue as authorities look for missing girl Jessica Ridgeway

At a 6:30 a.m. news conference, Westminster Police Department spokesman Trevor Materasso said crews will continue land searches Wednesday and a dive team will continue to search nearby bodies of water as a precaution.

Part of those precautions include some police activity at a nearby landfill. Materasso said police have secured the trash that was collected from the area around the time of the girl's disappearance, but are not actively searching through the garbage at this time.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...inue-authorities-look-missing-girl?source=pkg

 

[mysticrose]

I am just very troubled by all this this morning, I can't even imagine how her family feels.

I will never understand how some people just find it acceptable to just steal our children, the grief, pain, worry, fear it instills on the family and even the communities surrounding.... It is so heartbreaking.

People like these are the devil plain and simple and do not deserve to breathe another day....
I'll be sending lots of prayers today...