CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #3

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Coats: we gave up a bulky coats and now use fleeces with a waterproof rainshell or a thinner coat on top. In Colorado, I can imagine there are different kinds of coats for different weather. Since it was snowing, I'm assuming she added some sort of waterproof layer on top of something else.

On the other hand, I'm not even sure why this is important. But just wanted to share what I thought of the word "coats".

I think she was wearing a puffy black coat. And black boots with pom poms. It sounds so cute. I can just see her walking in the snow. lease:

 

[Seek&Find]

So where did that phrase come from, where Mom saw the friend leave with Jessica? I mean, that is horribly wrong, if it is incorrect.

From KDVR:

Will C. Holden OCTOBER 9, 20122:15 PM
Jessica Ridgeway’s mother talking about the morning her daughter went missing:

“It was any other morning. Her alarm goes off at 7:45. She wanted her alarm clock so she could get up on her own. She comes down, she watches T.V., she eats her granola bar, she goes up and gets dressed, we peel oranges for her snack. She does everything on her own – she wants to be a teenager before she’s a teenager.

“I watch her walk out the door with her friend, who said she was walking too. That was the last time I saw her. I want her to walk back through that door. I need her to walk back through that door.”

link accurately reflected in posts [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8434043&postcount=146"]here first[/ame] and [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8434418&postcount=275"]here.[/ame]

At approximately 2:30 in mom's video at 9News here, mom actually says:

"I make sure that, you know, she's gonna meet her friend cuz it is snowing, and you know, she..she makes...sh, her friend says yes, I am walking too and I watch her walk out the door and I shut the door."

So, yes, the reporter butchered what should have been a direct, exact quote, given the quotation marks, or he should've left out the quotation marks so it'd be clear it was a (very poor) paraphrase. Some were speculating earlier that mom was referencing a female friend here. IMO, mom's referring to J (the boy with whom mom says Jessica "made a plan at 8:30 they were gonna meet every morning" at ~3:40 on linked video) and the "she" mom referred to above was Jessica.

Moo

 

[SilkySifaka]

The only case I can think of where a child was released due to a plea from the family was Keenan;s case in Canada. And that was a very structured plea worked out with the RCMP to a perp they knew. It resulted in him sneaking back and leaving keenan in his living room.

 

[Zola]

You might want to check out Thread #2, I believe we discussed this quite a bit on that thread. I think the backpack was left there in an attempt to divert the investigation. JMO

I think the perpetrator(s) wanted the police to believe, whether true or not, that the girl is still alive.

Because the perpetrator(s) risked discovery when the back-pack was placed where it was later found, I believe the perpetrator was delivering a message to police. The message may have been inside the back-pack. Obviously, there may have been no message inside the back-pack.

Today the family appeared on TV. They spoke about their loved one. This was done, I believe, with the knowledge that the perpetrator(s) would see them on TV, and perhaps be moved to not harm the girl.

If the back-pack was left to throw police off-track and implicate a resident of that particular neighborhood, I think the perpetrator(s) would have left the back-pack in a resident's driveway or back-yard rather than on the sidewalk.

 

[shefner]

BBM:
Of course I would.

I never had one thought about how strong my family was....much less the thought to say that to someone else.

Who cares how strong we are....the strongest person is the person who has your child. And they know that. You MUST appeal to something else.

 

[Foxfire]

This, too, is a major,issue with me..

Nor to incriminate parents....

But home is where so many answers would be from the start!

JMO

IHAVENOCLUE, this is a misnomer; An error in naming a person or place ....

From my experience, this is a CYA maneuver by investigators that have dropped the ball.

Adam Walsh's investigation went cold for over 25 years due to perceived hypothesis...
Seems, that investigators forget to develop the film of luminol tests...of Serial Killer Otis Toole's vehicle..

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This is the ultimate cold case tragic, high-profile, and, finally, successfully solved. Six-year-old Adam Walsh was abducted from a crowded Sears store in .
Bringing Adam Home: The Abduction That Changed America

 

[cluciano63]

What does "her friend J, his brother" mean?
Is there an "and" missing?

 

[Ransom]

Ok I will change that to: In my County's schools, we have bus service regardless of how close a child lives.

Much better. lol. My brother lives in the 2nd largest city in Tx (San Antonio) and there is no "county" busing there. EACH school district handles transportation. Not rural. Neither is the county that Jessica lives. NOT rural.

 

[JodyMT]

I think the perpetrator(s) wanted the police to believe, whether true or not, that the girl is still alive.

Because the perpetrator(s) risked discovery when the back-pack was placed where it was later found, I believe the perpetrator was delivering a message to police. The message may have been inside the back-pack. Obviously, there may have been no message inside the back-pack.

Today the family appeared on TV. They spoke about their loved one. This was done, I believe, with the knowledge that the perpetrator(s) would see them on TV, and perhaps be moved to not harm the girl.

If the back-pack was left to throw police off-track and implicate a resident of that particular neighborhood, I think the perpetrator(s) would have left the back-pack in a resident's driveway or back-yard rather than on the sidewalk.

I'm trying to think of another recent case where an abduction victim's belongings were put on display like that. I can't remember a single one. I don't know if this person was trying to throw off the cops or was just thumbing his nose at them.

 

[Seek&Find]

They're almost 23 One is in the Navy, just re-enlisted (his ship is my avatar). The other just enlisted and will leave for bootcamp in April. And yes, they eat like crazy. When the sailor comes home on leave, I have to empty the supermarket lol!

Thanks to them and your family for their service!

 

[Ransom]

I never had one thought about how strong my family was....much less the thought to say that to someone else.

Who cares how strong we are....the strongest person is the person who has your child. And they know that. You MUST appeal to something else.

Don't agree, but that's JMO. A kidnapper/creep doesn't listen to a parent .. it feeds there sickness to hear your weakness. IMO. I would stay strong FOR my child. Always.Always.Always.

 

[Jax49]

I hope the media is reading this thread and seeing what a muckup they made with the misquotes.

 

[Ransom]

What does "her friend J, his brother" mean?
Is there an "and" missing?

Re-listen. J's brother went to Jr. High this year and thus went to another school and not the same elementary school and J and Jessica. JMO

 

[iamnotagolem]

I'm trying to think of another recent case where an abduction victim's belongings were put on display like that. I can't remember a single one. I don't know if this person was trying to throw off the cops or was just thumbing his nose at them.

Lyric cook and Elizabeth Collins.

 

[Marilynilpa]

I agree. The father looks shell-shocked. My heart breaks for him, felon or no.

This comment by the father just says it all to me. He's talking about when he received the call that Jessica's backpack had been found:

“It was about time to get off work when I got that phone call,” Bryant said. “I told my boss I had to leave. I couldn’t stay. I’ve been lost ever since.”

http://kdvr.com/2012/10/09/family-of-jessica-ridgeway-makes-first-public-statement/

BBM

I find that last sentence very poignant. JMO

 

[Chili Fries]

What does "her friend J, his brother" mean?
Is there an "and" missing?

No, that's exactly what she said.

My guess is it means her friend J and his older brother, who goes to middle school. Those two regularly walked to school with her.

You know how people speak - the train of thought often leads to vague meanings.

 

[Foxfire]

To understand the motives of a sadistic sexual predator/psychopath. It is very important in their abductions to know that the family is also grieving. It is more about the control of life and death over others, than about sex..

 

[iamnotagolem]

Re-listen. J's brother went to Jr. High this year and thus went to another school and not the same elementary school and J and Jessica. JMO

For those of us who can't listen and can only read, it is quite confusing. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Ransom]

I hope the media is reading this thread and seeing what a muckup they made with the misquotes.

It's par for the course ... sadly. We live and die by providing links here and then we find out (sometimes sooner rather than later) that they were so wrong. :cry:

 

[JodyMT]

I hope the media is reading this thread and seeing what a muckup they made with the misquotes.

It's like when a natural disaster or terrorist attack happens, the media will always report an unsubstantiated large number of deaths, then have to go back and change it to a much smaller number. Even one death is too many, but they never wait until the number of dead can be verified because they want to be the first to report on the incident.