CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #4

[Chewy]

Oh maybe I'm confused I thought the bag drop was done in a neighborhood with houses? Isn't that what the picture shows?

Also she was sighted in Maine so ? Who dropped the bag? And the cops were definitely crawling all over the place and also so were the locals. No perp that doesn't want to get caught is going to drive into a neighborhood and throw a little childs backpack out of the car and mosey on, two days after they abducted the child that's now on the front page of every newspaper? Seriously. LOL IMO.

 

[Eileen730]

If someone is brazen enough to kidnap a child in broad daylight, with the morning hustle and bustle, I'm sure he's brazen enough to dump a schoolbag on a sidewalk. JMO.

What if its not a he?

 

[cakegirl0905]

Oh maybe I'm confused I thought the bag drop was done in a neighborhood with houses? Isn't that what the picture shows?

Yes, but between the two neighborhoods is pretty untraveled by anything but cars (or serious cyclists).

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Hello!

Is there a mod that can help us rewind scanner info in the basement please?

TIA

 

[Chewy]

Yes, but between the two neighborhoods is pretty untraveled by anything but cars (or serious cyclists).

So it's like I said, a distraction. Since people on here know the neighborhood I'd like to ask if anyone can look up the area and see if there are RSOs in the area moreso than the one in which she was taken?

 

[~n/t~]

I feel so helpless. Wish there was more I could do to find her.

 

[scout35]

What if its not a he?

I meant he as in "they". A general "he".

 

[Sheromom]

I mean this as delicately as possible. If someone did something to her, they could have easily forgotten about her backpack and decided to ditch it where ever they happened to be when they discovered it in the car. They could have feared for a cellphone or whatever and dumped the bag immediately.

God, I just want Jessica found safe. I don't want to have to think about these things. This kept me up last night.

Me, too. The only child EVER abducted in my town had her backpack found halfway between her abduction spot and where she was found......dead. I know it has to be a local to know these places?

 

[Meri]

Every time I think about that backpack, I picture the perp getting Jessica out of the car, but first he took out her backpack and set it down, then got her, was nervous and in a hurry to get her inside, out of sight, and just completely forgot about the backpack sitting there.

 

[Pacific2011]

So it's like I said, a distraction. Since people on here know the neighborhood I'd like to ask if anyone can look up the area and see if there are RSOs in the area more so than the one in which she was taken?

Shortly after Jessica went missing, I looked up a list of Colorado RSOs (that was linked here on WS) and was struck by the lack of RSOs with addresses in the community of Superior! I don't remember even one. . . .perhaps because the neighborhood in Superior is more upscale than the one in Westminster, i.e., houses in Superior are priced at $100,000 or more on average, iirc.

MOO.

 

[~n/t~]

Jessica made front page of the Montreal Gazette home page. I know the chances she's in Canada are probably slim to none but all exposure is good in a missing child case.

Continued prayers for a miracle.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news...olo+abducted+parents+ruled/7370966/story.html

 

[Chewy]

Shortly after Jessica went missing, I looked up a list of Colorado RSOs (that was linked here on WS) and was struck by the lack of RSOs with addresses in the community of Superior! I don't remember even one. . . .perhaps because the neighborhood in Superior is more upscale than the one in Westminster, i.e., houses in Superior are priced at $100,000 or more on average, iirc.

MOO.

Hmm that changes that? Also I agree with the idea that they realized the backpack was in the car and worried about a cell phone and just tossed it out the window.


That's why I think someone found it and then took it back to the scene.

 

[BethInAK]

Jessica made front page of the Montreal Gazette home page. I know the chances she's in Canada are probably slim to none but all exposure is good in a missing child case.

Continued prayers for a miracle.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news...olo+abducted+parents+ruled/7370966/story.html

if the maine sighting is real, she may very well be in Canada.

 

[Eileen730]

I meant he as in "they". A general "he".

LOL I know but your sentence made me think we cant rule out a woman either!

 

[nursebeeme]

folks: no more discussion of the facebook person/family member or sleuthing of them.

 

[otto]

Sorry but it still doesn't make any sense to me. What person is going to risk dumping a back pack of a known kidnapped child in the middle of a neighborhood street? Everyone has cameras on their cell phones nowadays, it could take seconds for someone to see it and snap a picture of the license plate. I mean if they had to get rid of the bag why not drive into a wooded area and toss the bag into the bushes? Pull over on the side of a bridge and toss it over or on the side of a highway and toss it down an embankment?

Six miles is enough of a distance that the child could have wandered lost. So if they wanted to change the point of abduction they could have gotten her in one place, driven her somewhere else and dropped the bag off to throw off the police.

Then someone comes along and finds it and picks it up. We don't know who picked it up. For all we know a RSO could have picked it up which would have put the spotlight on him.

It just makes no sense that the bag was left when it was and that the person was in another state days later. There's no reason for that bag to have ever been "found" in the place it was found unless the perp wanted to make it look like she was abducted somewhere else.


I just thought of something else. These days it is very easy to find out the location of RSOs and this can be used as a smoke screen to throw off the cops. I'm willing to bet that the perp dumped the bag near a RSO's house that he researched on the computer. That's what Metawala's mom did as well. She left her kid sitting alone in a car right outside the home of a RSO.

BBM

That is exactly the question that was repeatedly asked about Elizabeth Collin's purple purse when it was found on the opposite side of the fence from her bike in Evansdale Iowa. Over and over again, we asked ourselves how the bikes and purse could possibly be planted because of the risk involved ... but at the same time ... the question repeatedly came up about why the children would leave their bikes, and especially the purple purse, at that location. Here we are, 3 months later, asking the very same question about the backpack.

 

[Chewy]

I don't know about the Elizabeth Collins case. But the part that doesn't make sense to me is the sightings in Maine and the finding of the bag two days later. Obviously it was put there days after the abduction. So that's what doesn't make sense.


ETA the bikes in the Collins case were found in the middle of a wooden area that was concealed from site by trees deep in a path that came up against a fence beyond which is the highway.

Dumping stuff there makes perfect sense to me. Its what I wrote about in my first post on this.

I don't see the comparison at all?

 

[Zola]

In the graphic I made (see below) please note the similarity of the roof-lines. IMHO, the perpetrator(s) was a stranger to the victim; the backpack was a red-herring; the perpetrator(s) feels comfortable loitering in a vehicle parked on the side of a street where there are no windows overlooking the perpetrator's location; the perpetrator(s) lives/lived in the neighborhood where the abduction occurred, as only the homes in that neighborhood were being searched on Saturday, October 6. According to former FBI profiler Van Zandt, the placement of the backpack may have been a red-herring to divert police away from the perpetrator(s). Because the only houses being searched on Saturday were in the victim's neighborhood, the perpetrator(s) might have left the backpack to divert police away from their residence in the victim's neighborhood.

The temperature on Saturday between 6:45pm and 1:00am was approximately 25-30 degrees fahrenheit. It seems improbable (to me) that the perpetrator(s) spent considerable time looking for a place to drop the backpack due to the increased police activity in the victim's neighborhood. Therefore, I propose that the perpetrator(s) drove purposefully to the location where the backpack was later found. This, IMHO, indicates a familiarity with the neighborhoods nearby to where the victim was abducted.

 

[otto]

if the maine sighting is real, she may very well be in Canada.

There was a question upthread about regulations when entering Canada. What are the regulations regarding taking a child out of the US? My experience has always been that, when traveling with a young child across any border, I have had to present documents proving that the child has permission to travel with me both leaving a country and entering another country.

 

[OwlMom]

The spokesperson seemed to be saying they are trying very hard locally. I wonder if they are still thinking that the most likely suspect is someone right there in their own community....

The fact that Witt was on lockout all day suggests the same thing to me--that while they're searching they may flush a suspect and there could be police activity that would be dangerous to students (i.e., shooting).

Also the pix they have up on the Amber Alert is much younger with a totally different hairstyle than the recent picture with the dog.

They've said repeatedly that the public should focus on her facial features because her hairstyle may be different, her hair color may be different, she may not be wearing glasses anymore, etc.

It could've been biked also, I guess. probablly not by a child, though.

(later post) ... between the two neighborhoods is pretty untraveled by anything but cars (or serious cyclists).

Yes. There's a big ol' climb to get from her neighborhood up to 128, on roads that basically don't have a shoulder, and cars drive 45-55 mph (the posted limit is slower, iirc, but regularly ignored). It also gets a fair amount of traffic. Anyone biking with a kid's backpack would have been noticed during the daytime.