CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #6

[cluciano63]

I just had a thought. Which I know is off topic. Identification is going slow because LE doesn't want to put the family through having to identify. Which is very kind of them. We can
wait for the lab, and not put the family through that.

I don't see how the family could be asked to positively identify a "not intact" body?

 

[Marilynilpa]

Ok. I'm totally confused about what's ok to discuss from the scanner thread. BUT, it seems REALLY important that it appears J could have been taken from elsewhere than the three blocks between her house and Chelsea Park. She appears to have gone elsewhere to possibly change clothes (or meet someone???), and then maybe returned to where she was supposed to be but too late to meet the friends, or maybe she never got back to the park. It sounds like she was supposed to meet the friend at their house but she never showed.
I think this is crucial. Is it not ok to discuss? It adds time and space and possible contact with a whole other demographic of people to the time and place she supposedly disappeared.
Please delete this post if it's not allowed.
I don't know what MSM is, other than a natural formula for joints.

MSM = main stream media

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

Ok. I'm totally confused about what's ok to discuss from the scanner thread. BUT, it seems REALLY important that it appears J could have been taken from elsewhere than the three blocks between her house and Chelsea Park. She appears to have gone elsewhere to possibly change clothes (or meet someone???), and then maybe returned to where she was supposed to be but too late to meet the friends, or maybe she never got back to the park. It sounds like she was supposed to meet the friend at their house but she never showed.
I think this is crucial. Is it not ok to discuss? It adds time and space and possible contact with a whole other demographic of people to the time and place she supposedly disappeared.
Please delete this post if it's not allowed.
I don't know what MSM is, other than a natural formula for joints.

absentia, MSM refers to Main Stream Media, meaning the source of your info must be published from a news source. If you read this on Facebook or in the news comments sections it's not allowed up here, but maybe in the basement?

 

[absentia]

there are 4 public places in the google map below plus an open space, one of which is the school and one is Chelsea park. J could have traveled to at least 2 of the public places and through the open space before coming across her abductor on her way to the school.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Chel...,+Westminster,+Jefferson,+Colorado+80021&z=16

 

[Gabby66]

I don't see how the family could be asked to positively identify a "not intact" body?

I think I could identify my kids' torsos. I know every mole, birthmark, and freckle. However, I KNOW I wouldn't want to....

 

[vasportsmom]

Ok. I'm totally confused about what's ok to discuss from the scanner thread. BUT, it seems REALLY important that it appears J could have been taken from elsewhere than the three blocks between her house and Chelsea Park. She appears to have gone elsewhere to possibly change clothes (or meet someone???), and then maybe returned to where she was supposed to be but too late to meet the friends, or maybe she never got back to the park. It sounds like she was supposed to meet the friend at their house but she never showed.
I think this is crucial. Is it not ok to discuss? It adds time and space and possible contact with a whole other demographic of people to the time and place she supposedly disappeared.
Please delete this post if it's not allowed.
I don't know what MSM is, other than a natural formula for joints.

MSM is mainstream media. There is a thread here with the commonly used abbreviations but I don't have the link handy on my phone. Hopefully someone will grab that for you though.

As for what we can bring up from the scanner forum, well I'm afraid to touch that one because I always thought the answer was nothing. I also know nothing about Jessica changing clothes. If there is a post on that in the basement I would really love a link because I missed that info too.


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[Knox]

9NEWS Denver ‏@9NEWS FBI knows from experience, best leads will likely come from people at home who have a hunch & make the call: 303-658-4336 #JessicaRidgeway

 

[iamnotagolem]

I would suck as a perp, I can't even fathom moving a body in not one piece. So I'm gonn pretend the perp had ten bags of potatoes to get under the fence. Does he stack them all up on one side of the fence, crawl under, then one at a time pull the bags under the fence?

I'm so confused by the possibility of the body being dismembered by a person rather than a wild animal. If you take the time to make it unwhole, and possibly bag it, wouldn't it make more sense to distribute to multiple trash bins in a commercial district?

 

[GrainneDhu]

Does that mean they have forensic evidence indicating the perp went under the fence? We had discussed previously if the body had been simply tossed over.

My first thought was that it would be really tough to go under a barbed wire fence with a body. What would be easier would be either to put the body on a plastic tarp or blanket to slide it under the fence or to throw a heavy blanket on top of the wire and use that as a makeshift stile.

Either might leave forensic evidence but maybe not. If the perp used a plastic tarp to slide the body and the location catches the wind, there might not be any drag marks left on the ground.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Trying to catch up on the other thread.....body not intact.
I knew last night that was likely the case. Poor little one, her family ....May God be with the family. Omg why do these crimes happen?? Who does this? IMO

 

[i.b.nora]

This is a really good example of what it totally fine to post in the public forum in regards to something heard on the scanner. Thanks Sarx!

I am now totally confused. All of a sudden it is now okay to discuss info from the scanner threads in the regular (upstairs) forums? Five or less hours ago it was totally and completely verboten!

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

Hey so I'm still reading thread #5 and saw this written there:

Roni
Registered User

I live 10 miles from Greeley, CO. and there has been a helicopter back and forth since noon and is still doing that, it is flying very low as if looking for something, don't know if it could be related or not.

I live south of Greeley and we had helicopters, too, but it looked like there was a really heavy structure fire of some sort around 5:15pm. Huge black cloud of smoke.

 

[vasportsmom]

I am now totally confused. All of a sudden it is now okay to discuss info from the scanner threads in the regular (upstairs) forums? Five or less hours ago it was totally and completely verboten!

I'm really confused too and TBH I kind of wish it had stayed at 'what happens in the basement, stays in the basement' because that was simple and left no questions.


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[absentia]

I don't know if it's ok to answer this as the info comes from the scanner thread.
It appears she never arrived at the house where she was supposed to meet her friend.
I'm surmising she usually picked up her friend and they walked to the park where maybe they met up with others and walked to school?
something may have been different on the morning she went missing as she was witnessed in the 'hood but not within the 3 blocks between her house and the park.
I also thought that it sounded like something about that morning was different simply b/c of the mother's language during her interview changing to present tense regarding the events of Friday morning, indicating she was relating what usually happened on an average day, not necessarily that particular day. not saying the mom had anything to do with anything, just that she omitted at least one thought or memory (maybe coached not to say certain things by LE/FBI) and maybe didn't explain what happened exactly that morning. it sounded like something else happened that she censored herself on, but maybe not related to the disappearance.

I am confused, did jessica make it into the school building? Did she regularly meet a group of friends to walk to school or did she walk on her own? Is it that no one knew she was missing until they took attendance?

It seems conflicting on whether she had some friends who were actually waiting for her to walk (& perhaps figured she was just going to be absent for the day or perhaps be driven to school if she did not come by a certain time)

or whether she just usually walked w friends but perhaps she did not always walk w friends, if for instance, she was running late, etc.

 

[mck16]

My first thought was that it would be really tough to go under a barbed wire fence with a body. What would be easier would be either to put the body on a plastic tarp or blanket to slide it under the fence or to throw a heavy blanket on top of the wire and use that as a makeshift stile.

Either might leave forensic evidence but maybe not. If the perp used a plastic tarp to slide the body and the location catches the wind, there might not be any drag marks left on the ground.

Growing up in Texas I also grew up with going through barb wire fences. If you go through the middle and last wire often enough it soon stretches out enough that it is not a problem. And from reports we have seen, this is a common area for people to hike, explore, etc. So maybe the wire was stretched enough it was not an issue to put a foot on the lower wire and stretch it out enough to easily get through it. Just a thought.

 

[i.b.nora]

I'm really confused too and TBH I kind of wish it had stayed at 'what happens in the basement, stays in the basement' because that was simple and left no questions.

Me too. I very rarely went there.

 

[absentia]

yes but that info seems essential and important, and implicates no one, but does shed light on where the risks might currently be, for people in the area who are concerned about this guy being out there still.

I'm really confused too and TBH I kind of wish it had stayed at 'what happens in the basement, stays in the basement' because that was simple and left no questions.


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[Boodles]

I think I could identify my kids' torsos. I know every mole, birthmark, and freckle. However, I KNOW I wouldn't want to....

I understand. But considering the torture of waiting, waiting, waiting to find out: is it her?, would you choose the wait option rather than viewing the body (part(s))?

I don't know which I would choose, but the waiting has to be the most painful, excruciating time. I would need serious sedation...

 

[GrainneDhu]

I hope this isn't crossing any lines. I am really curious why the info from the initial convo between LE and dispatch (the rewind transcript that has been alluded to and linked on the last few pages) has never been made public. It has just enough hinky that it should have appealed to some of the more sensationalist style journalists, especially after the family interview. Anyone have any thoughts? Could it be that it just doesn't interest the media or could LE have asked them to refrain from using it? If so for what purpose?

ETA: I'm not asking why the info hasn't been used up here in the public forum but why hasn't MSM made use of that info.


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My guess would be that LE thoroughly checked out the sources of the conflicting information and has thoroughly ruled them out.

I also think that since the Richard Jewell and Stephen Hatfill cases, journalists are more cautious about implying someone is a suspect. With the tabloid press, probably not so much out of concern of ruining someone's life but out of concern for the size of the settlement if they name someone wrongly.

Considering the impact those cases had on Richard Jewell and Steven Hatfill, I think that's a very good thing. I am convinced that the stress of it probably shortened Richard Jewell's life.

 

[mck16]

I don't know if it's ok to answer this as the info comes from the scanner thread.
It appears she never arrived at the house where she was supposed to meet her friend.
I'm surmising she usually picked up her friend and they walked to the park where maybe they met up with others and walked to school?
something may have been different on the morning she went missing as she was witnessed in the 'hood but not within the 3 blocks between her house and the park.
I also thought that it sounded like something about that morning was different simply b/c of the mother's language during her interview changing to present tense regarding the events of Friday morning, indicating she was relating what usually happened on an average day, not necessarily that particular day. not saying the mom had anything to do with anything, just that she omitted at least one thought or memory (maybe coached not to say certain things by LE/FBI) and maybe didn't explain what happened exactly that morning. it sounded like something else happened that she censored herself on, but maybe not related to the disappearance.

Early on wasn't there also a report that a neighbor's yard, and truck were searched with extra diligence more than the normal searches? tia