CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #8

[matou]

It was reported that the killer went under the fence, so there must be some reason to believe that--such as it being bent upwards or something.

I don't remember that. Do you remember where you heard that?

EDIT: I see the link someone just posted. xo

 

[momtective]

To expand on the possible significance on where the backpack was left. Alpha, Andrew and Superior.

The remains were found near 82nd & Quaker. Could those streets also signify something? Maybe born in 1982?

I need to figure out how to make a signature for my posts.

Sherie

Maybe the location is just close to Mr. "Andrews, Superior, Alpha's" home...btw there is an Andrews located near the remains site (fb and whitepages). What a common name though and I certainly wouldn't want to cause an innocent person undue distress based purly on speculation.

 

[absentia]

totally! I noticed that early on and promptly forgot about it. that would mean he lives nearby to know the combo town & street names and has spent time planning this with the meaning he wants inferred.

And Superior (the town the backpack was found in) is similar to the word alpha....

 

[cluciano63]

Hoping LE is making sure that all of the officers are familiar with the faces of the RSO's who best fit the profile, in case they do show up at events, vigils, etc. or just in the general area of either crime scene.

 

[pinto]

It was a waste collector who found the body? Do they mean garbage man? Was it garbage pick up day on the day Jessica was abducted? Could it be a garbage man> he would not be a suspicious sight.

As I was driving in this area today, I saw garbage bags sitting every couple of miles or so, at the edge of the road and marked with a traffic cone. I believe that the "waste collectors" were maintenance workers who walk the side of the road and pick up trash, put it into bags, and drop with a cone to be picked up by a vehicle.

 

[carbuff]

Gotcha. I get frustrated because I know I travel though many areas a lot by car and pass by a lot of vehicles on the side of the road. I never used to pay any attention to them. I'll bet a lot of people still don't. But the point is that I passed THROUGH, often ending up a thousand miles away. I would have no idea what happened in that area I went through. Maybe there are too many cases to do this, but wouldn't it be great if there could be a 30 second blurb on every news service that X happened on Y date-Was anyone in the area or did they see anything?

Yeah, yeah, I'm still dreaming.....

I know what you mean. Every time I see an 18-wheeler pulled over so the driver can check his tires or his load cover, I wonder whether he was dumping a body on the other side. There are so many vehicles beside the road, when you start paying attention. It's spooky -- but 99.999% of them are innocent.

 

[momtective]

It was reported that the killer went under the fence, so there must be some reason to believe that--such as it being bent upwards or something.

I'm wondering if it's possible he carried her through the drainage culvert.:waitasec: Wonder where the other end of that culvert comes out, is it just across the road?

 

[Bravo]

If he is arrogant and obnoxious and cocky and if he is trying to taunt the cops by the placement of the evidence, then I am hoping that he has been in their presence already. And hopefully his sick and twisted EGO will shine through during interactions with LE.

Me too. Generally we see it's this type and type of attitude that gets them caught lease: :moo:

 

[Ghostwheel]

dunno for sure. the fact that they're swabbing everyone in the hood and local RSO's makes me think they have some unknown DNA not in the system they're trying to match.

I agree, that is most likely. Or they could be trying to make someone THINK they have DNA. Put the pressure on, make them possibly act differently at home because they are wondering what they could have missed, and freaking because they think LE will appear at their door any minute.

 

[passionflower]

bbm

That's what LE has said - I think they have detected some sort of trail, footprints, etc:

IiRC evidence was on the road. Red markers LE had in a photo.

 

[BlueIris]

I haven't read entire thread, but I drove past here at about 2:30 today, maybe 2:45, and that area just off 93 was crawling with cars and vans and people in yellow vests and a news truck, don't remember which channel.

The road was CLOSED until recently? Why? Was it being repaired or something? Has this been reported in the media (I missed it somehow if it was!). That seems significant to me! Did he know it had just re-opened? If so, how and why did he know this?

 

[jaycee]

Still thinking about meanings / symbols eg: Andrew / Alpha...

I just realized that there is a location involved called "Superior". Not sure anymore if this was the drop site area for the back pack... or how it tied in, but there is a location called "Superior".

When thinking about street names / location names etc... it could well be just one (or one more) reason they're describing the guy as organized.

Interesting isn't it. If it was on purpose, they have a real arrogant creep on their hands that will play games with law enforcement. If it is coincidence, he is one lucky SOB because this has to be messing with the cops and profilers.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I know what you mean. Every time I see an 18-wheeler pulled over so the driver can check his tires or his load cover, I wonder whether he was dumping a body on the other side. There are so many vehicles beside the road, when you start paying attention. It's spooky -- but 99.999% of them are innocent.

So what does this say about us that we are wondering if every car pulled over to the side of the road is dumping a body.....:waitasec: Morbid humor, sorry....

 

[SarahEcho]

Interesting that nobody noticed the backpack being dropped off overnight, at least not that we know of. Familiarity with an area might be that you work there and overnight hours might mean a paper delivery driver would be normal for to go through stop and go as they bring the daily news. That would be odd, a perp that delivers the news and makes the news.

 

[Theforeigner]

Thank you. That certainly looks like the place.

I notice the bright lights are also focused on the end of the culvert, so there was probably something there as well.

Also, that fence doesn't reach the ground where it goes over the ditch. Plenty of room for an animal (or even a person) to go under.

I guess it´s possible , however I dont belive it's probale because I just don´t belive an animal would choose to drag the body through that fence due to that it´s, as far as I know, barbed wire.

 

[otto]

The definition of Alpha on dictionary.com is: "the first; beginning"

Maybe he's saying this is his first murder and more are to come...?

Alpha is of Greek origin So is Andrew.

Alpha male ... alpha Andrew

 

[matou]

Has LE been looking in the closest garbage dumps? This guy could have just dropped off smaller packages into some dumpsters anywhere in the city. At a self serve car wash?

 

[passionflower]

But if she HAD (rumor/I know) been found inside that drain pipe, they would have had to remove her body in order to look at the scene, the body, etc. wouldn't they? The ME could not have gone inside there.

JMOO WM (garbage men) would never see her in the pipe. They discovered her & called LE. saw the sky news video.

 

[Thorn]

OT:
Hello All,
Any help would be appreciated. I have a PM from a WS member, but I seem to be having an issue viewing it. Since I am new here on WS I am wondering if there is something special that I need to do in order to see the reply? TIA for your suggestions.

 

[Lava]

Elizabeth Ann Miller
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/miller_elizabeth.html

Yvonne Mestas and Victoria Sanchez
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mestas_yvonne.html

Jonelle Matthews
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/matthews_jonelle.html

Jennifer Anne Douglas
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/douglas_jennifer.html

Some cases I found interesting.