CO CO - Kayleah Wilson, 12, Greeley, 28 March 2010 - #2

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  • #661
IMO, I think it is very unusual for a 12 year old young girl to run away for this long! I do not think she ran away.

Well, she does have a dad in California (could she have tried to hitch a ride out there)? Also, she could be with kids who are older and "taking care of her" (I say this EXTREMELY loosely). There are also many stories of kids who get involved with prostitution, etc. I agree, if she ran away, she wasn't alone for long; but I think she could definitely have gotten together with people -- by chance or by design -- that could be helping her hide out for this long.
 
  • #662
I wonder if truckers have been given her photo? especially those heading west? I saw a post on her father's page about being asked to stay there in CA but can't find the quote again now...
 
  • #663
Not that it applies in this case, but, a child being returned home is not always the safest thing and the family doesn't always deserve help. Kids run away for lots of reasons and one of them is to escape the dangers at home, the streets can be safer sometimes. Just something to always keep in mind.
I agree strongly. When runaways are found, we really are in no place to assume the only right answer is for them to be returned to the same situation they were willing to risk their life to escape.

Let me be clear-- I'm not saying this is true here, but we don't know and sometimes even friends and neighbors don't know.
 
  • #664
I think of so many cases where Social Services is called in time after time -- the child is removed and returned, or left with the family -- only to die later on at the intention or careless hands of someone in the home.
 
  • #665
I think that IF Kayleah decided to take off, it was more as an adventure to her and less about misery at home (any more than the usual angst, anyway.) And I honestly don't think she ever intended to be gone like this...I think she may have decided to ditch the party, either at last moment or pre-planned, but fully intended to be home for bedtime. She had nothing with her at all...kids bring their "stuff" if not coming back even for a day or two, IMO.
 
  • #666
I am wondering if there were other girls walking toward the party the same time as Kayleah. I just don't feel like she would have told the girl she was coming if she planned to do something else. Lying to a parent is one thing to cover you alternate plans, but not usually to your friend. Kayleah either was either abducted or had a very fast change of plans, very fast which would only mean she ran into someone she knew who possible was coming out of the theater or the mall.
 
  • #667
This disappearance does have the smell of both the Lindsay Baum and Carlie Bruscia cases. IMO
 
  • #668
We know there are other options, but do kids? It's not likely they'll google where to run away before they do. They can't walk up to a cop and ask, they'll get taken right back home. They can't go to just any shelter. They stay on the streets because they don't want to go back home because they don't know where to turn that is "safe" in the sense that they won't get sent back home. How do they find out about other options?

I wasn't saying it is up to the kids to find another option...what I am saying is......just because a child runs away voluntarily either because of a bed home life or just because they think they can do better or have more freedom on their own should not be written of LE's radar, they are still children...and children deserve to be saved whether it be from family, predators or themselves...I also think if there is a runaway situation when the child is found questions should be asked before the child is returned home...because obviously something is amiss if you choose to go it alone instead of staying home, whether it is something serious within the home or just the child being over dramatic or seeking attention. Hopefully I have made myself clear....
 
  • #669
They go to the library and use the computer.
JMO.

A lot of them run away as an impulsive act, they don't pack bags, they don't think about food, and I don't think they often have the foresight to go to the library to use the computer.

That is in the traditional sense of a runaway.

Bringing in the internet and child predators brings on a whole knew realm. This is much more calculated and planned and often planned by a much older and wiser person who can "coach" the girl. These are not the runaways that are on the streets or shacking up with other teens in some nasty motel or vacant building. These girls left with a promise of someone that would take care of them, buy them things, treat them right, give them the freedom, and a host of other promises.
 
  • #670
LE takes their cue from the parents in most cases, as well as evidence available, when a teen or almost- teen goes missing (evidence being backpack missing, clothing, fav. items, phones, Ipod, etc) and if parent is worried they may have been lured away, LE must be informed of this and they will look into it. Even in runaway cases, when parent knows child left on thier own, LE will put out a BOLO (be on lookout for) and patrol cars may keep an eye out in the areas where teens gather. But so many kids take off every year, they can't treat each case as an abduction, unfortunately, and they make mistakes, Amber being the most infamous. Her parents did everything right and LE went with their gut, which was wrong.
All I am saying is I think in most cases, LE does what it can. I think younger kids like Kayleah usually do get the attention they deserve from LE and some of the older teens obviously get less. A matter of manpower, it is unfortunate, but true. Many many times more kids runaway than are abducted and even those the runaways are in constant danger...hard choices have to be made by police as to resources and it is often up to parents and family members to mount their own searches for runaway teens.
I also think the size of the town/city plays a role...Greeley is pulling out all the stops...a large city may not have done as much by now.
All my opinions...
 
  • #671
Clu, I don't think this child is a runaway. She just doesn't have the ways and means.
 
  • #672
Not that it applies in this case, but, a child being returned home is not always the safest thing and the family doesn't always deserve help. Kids run away for lots of reasons and one of them is to escape the dangers at home, the streets can be safer sometimes. Just something to always keep in mind.

Clu, I don't think this child is a runaway. She just doesn't have the ways and means.

I don't think so either, by LE is sure leaving it hanging out there for a reason...
 
  • #673
I don't think so either, by LE is sure leaving it hanging out there for a reason...

Perhaps not to tip off someone they have their eye on?
 
  • #674
does anyone remember what the address of the party was? they posted it like the 1800 block of something, i would like to look at that neighborhood a little closer on google earth.
 
  • #675
I think it was the 1900 block of 30th street.
 
  • #676
I think we will hear more tomorrow. It is funny how a day without a presser in a missing child case can make the speculation go. They really need to take lessons on this (le) from other agencies that have seemed to do it right with DAILY updates.
 
  • #677
The other thing I am curious abt is the fact she went in the mall, at least i think she did. Why hasn't anyone said 'yeah i saw her' because she definitely went in there for a reason. I am wondering if maybe a guy. Someone who works there. Its pretty normal to let the kids off at four oclock on Sunday because the crowd dies down by then. Guy clocks out and is out in the parking lot by 4"15. I am just wondering if she was infatuated by someone that works in the mall. Spencers always hires young guys and the kids love that place.
 
  • #678
Clu, I don't think this child is a runaway. She just doesn't have the ways and means.

I don't think she's a runaway in the traditional sense of the word, but I wouldn't rule out her meeting up with someone and taking off with them.
 
  • #679
The other thing I am curious abt is the fact she went in the mall, at least i think she did. Why hasn't anyone said 'yeah i saw her' because she definitely went in there for a reason. I am wondering if maybe a guy. Someone who works there. Its pretty normal to let the kids off at four oclock on Sunday because the crowd dies down by then. Guy clocks out and is out in the parking lot by 4"15. I am just wondering if she was infatuated by someone that works in the mall. Spencers always hires young guys and the kids love that place.
I don't remember anyone saying she was in the mall. Do you have a link for that? It might have been speculation.
 
  • #680
This disappearance does have the smell of both the Lindsay Baum and Carlie Bruscia cases. IMO

I agree! 10yo Lindsey is still hitchhiking and living off the land - she was deemed to be a runaway who wanted to be with her dad in the service - and guess what? He had to come to McCleary to tell people she wasn't with him. And people still continued to call her a runaway!

Once FBI/LE put that thought in the minds of people, it is never forgotten. People can always say - well, she ran off with the boyfriend or to be with dad and gosh, who knows what happened to her. not our problem anymore.

IMO this is a huge mistake - first she is a runaway - next she is dead and creeks, rivers, and vacant land must be searched - now she's a runaway again. Either this is to throw the perp off or it's handing the case over to another county or state. If it's the latter, Kayleah and those who love her are the losers. MOO :twocents:
 
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