CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #10

[Peppery]

One could wonder if he hid her somewhere and had these other two people, which came up in separate cars...big red flag...dispose of her, including putting her body in bags. Was he doing this while LE was searching his property?

If her body had been in those bags we would know it. Moo

 

[KSinMT]

Hey, took a break to make and eat dinner and I missed the new development. So, here's what I think about the Waste Management visit. IF PF did it, he sent those text messages to buy time...and it worked. It was over 10 days before anyone suspected anything right? You buy time to get a headstart and cover your tracks. So, in that time he could have taken half a dozen trips to the dump and no one would have thought anything of it. If there was evidence for him to dispose of, I'm confident he already did it.

Why did he go today? Well, he clearly isn't consumed with searching for Kelsey, so he's probably going about his business as usual. I think the trip was probably in the normal course of his business. And why did he bring help and stay in the truck? Well, it's 100% obvious he wants nothing to do with the media and everyone is watching his every move, so he asked some friends to help so he didn't get recognized and hounded by media.

Those are my thoughts.....

That makes sense. I really don't think him going to the dump is all that suspicious in itself. I'm sure with owning a ranch, he probably goes frequently anyways. It was the people that apparently met him there in separate vehicles and unloaded the trailer for him that I thought was weird, but it could be like you said and he's trying to avoid the media. I am curious as to what LE retrieved from his trash though.

 

[nwmouse]

and perhaps her dad too. I hate these cases that destroy so many lives. Senseless.

The ripple effect is horrific.
SMH.

moo

 

[Tippy Lynn]

It would be especially telling if it were any personal items that belonged to KB or pics of the two them and other sentimental memorabilia.

KB’s phone?

 

[Snow Flower]

Perhaps he had these two guys pick up the trash that was at another location. He had to show them where it was. Then he asked them to meet him there to toss it. If he’s a control freak he probably wanted to make sure it was done. Perhaps each man signed for disposing of his trash bag. Never thinking someone would see him because they were all busy searching his property. I thought the article said he was there Monday?

 

[klind55]

This is typically what the look like. I'm not familiar with ones that are large enough to fit the shoulders of a person through.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...ptic-tank-emptying_1024x1024.jpg?v=1527773874

I just asked dh and he said our opening is 24". Granted there are different types of septic systems depending on the land so who knows what he had

 

[MassGuy]

KB’s phone?

I doubt it. That phone is probably somewhere in Idaho.

 

[nwmouse]

I have a feeling she's gone too but I do not think they will find her remains.
Is it possible she swerved and went off a ledge? Of course her cars were at her home so it would have to be in someone else's car. I know LE has been doing quite an investigation and on PF's property but we don't have an arrest. Did they find what they were looking for?

My gut says she didn't die in an accident.

I think she's a murder victim.

I hope I'm wrong. For the baby's sake.
Better growing up knowing your mom died in a horrible accident than being murdered. Possibly by your own father.

moo

 

[heartgoesout]

I mark my spot to try to keep up and still miss three threads! I can't keep up. What's happening friends??

 

[WhimsicalWillow]

Why would PF go to the dump instead of waiting for a garbage truck to pick it up?

 

[Lakefam]

Brand new here - first post
What if he’s so confident in himself never being found responsible that he went to the dump in order to get attention and cause speculation? Believing they’ll never prove anything?
Just my thoughts.

 

[MassGuy]

Why would PF go to the dump instead of waiting for a garbage truck to pick it up?

They may not have trash pickup where he lives.

Or they don’t take the type of trash he was dumping.

 

[GoJacks]

Waste Management has some of the strictest regulations of any of the landfills. They are very careful about what goes into their landfills. They typically will do some search, especially with farms and ranches, because they do not want people sneaking extremely toxic materials like pesticides into their landfill. This is assuming they are talking about Waste Management, Inc. and not using "waste manament facility" to indicate a facility that manages waste. If he did try to take her remains to a landfill, it would more than likely be a county landfill that doesn't pay much attention to what goes in.

Frankly, I think he is toying with the public and LE. I could see him putting in some rags with animal blood just so he could divert resources while he laughs at them for chasing a red herring.

why hide in the pickup and hire someone else to dump it then??

 

[GoJacks]

They may not have trash pickup where he lives.

Or they don’t take the type of trash he was dumping.

you can see he has waste management trash bins in the drone footage. I'd venture to guess he had trash pickup.

 

[nwmouse]

Frankly, I think he is toying with the public and LE. I could see him putting in some rags with animal blood just so he could divert resources while he laughs at them for chasing a red herring.

Snipped by me and BBM:
That is just so sadistic.
Pure evil for someone to even think of playing games like that.
Hopefully his arrogance will get him caught out. Its hard to sneak one past LE these days and I think they're onto him like flies on you-know-what.

moo

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I doubt it. That phone is probably somewhere in Idaho.

Oh come on.... if we’re going to keep chasing this guy around we need to connect him to some evidence or move on. (Kidding)

 

[KSinMT]

I doubt it. That phone is probably somewhere in Idaho.

Agreed! That phone will probably never be found.

 

[nwmouse]

Brand new here - first post
What if he’s so confident in himself never being found responsible that he went to the dump in order to get attention and cause speculation? Believing they’ll never prove anything?
Just my thoughts.

Then he's as stupid as Scott Peterson and Chris Watts!

moo

 

[klind55]

I just did a search on falling into septic tanks and it's an accident that does happen. If she is in one I don't think it's an accident but I hope they are checking the tank(s). Here is an example. Woman rescued after falling 10 feet into home septic tank | Daily Mail Online

 

[cody22]

I mark my spot to try to keep up and still miss three threads! I can't keep up. What's happening friends??

Go back to post #46 in this thread.... That ought to catch you up.....Take care...cody22