CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #10

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  • #421
What's scary is how well people manage to hide their psychotic tendencies. We see it all the time...someone gets arrested for an insanely hideous crime and all the neighbors do is say how the killer was such a nice person and not someone they expected to be a killer.

The Green River Killer was the best neighbor.

But I understand. "Oh, he is such a great guy. When it snowed, he helped me shovel the snow. And during the power outage, he lended me a flashlight".

The expectations from a neighbor and a killer are different, and one person can satisfy both.
 
  • #422
What are the chances here do you guys think of a random abduction?
 
  • #423
What are the chances here do you guys think of a random abduction?

IMO, it is possible but highly unlikely. If it wasn't PF, it was someone else who knew her. I don't see her texting PF and her work if it had been a random abduction.
 
  • #424
What are the chances here do you guys think of a random abduction?

.000000000001%

*they knew to text employer
*they CONVENIENTLY texted PF
*they pinged phone in idaho (conveniently would be on way to mums/grams)

*PF didn't seem to mind his fiance/baby momma(at the least) was mia for 10 days
 
  • #425
What are the chances here do you guys think of a random abduction?
Almost non existent.

A random abductor isn’t going to try and buy time, and create a false trail.

A trail that directs the police away from where they would otherwise look.

Somewhere close to home.
 
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““Kelsey’s a sweet, sweet girl. She’s very grounded. She’s a committed, reliable person. I don’t believe for one minute that she would leave on her own without telling her family where she was going,” said Berreth’s cousin...”

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What are the chances here do you guys think of a random abduction?

I was thinking about it. The day is good for an abduction. But if it is a random abduction, why leave traces like sending a message to her boss, and fiance? With the ping en route? And also, if she were abducted, PF would be behaving in a different way. He would want her to be found. He'd cooperate.
 
  • #430
I was thinking about it. The day is good for an abduction. But if it is a random abduction, why leave traces like sending a message to her boss, and fiance? With the ping en route? And also, if she were abducted, PF would be behaving in a different way. He would want her to be found. He'd cooperate.

If it was a random abduction, PF is the absolute unluckiest man in the world for the way he didn't report her missing.
 
  • #431
If it was a random abduction, PF is the absolute unluckiest man in the world for the way he didn't report her missing.
On the flip side, the random abductor would be the luckiest man in the world, for the exact same reason.

That would be like winning the lottery.

Twice.
 
  • #432
What are the chances here do you guys think of a random abduction?
Zero. A random abduction doesn't leave traces of anything. No way did that happen in this case. JMO
 
  • #433
Unless he put the drum in a horse float.
Getting rid of a dead body quickly to minimize the risk of getting caught is more insiteful and less risky than possessing it for hundreds of miles in a truck, horse trailer, Uhaul, it doesn’t really matter. So lets say, for example, PF is en route to Idaho and has a wreck. Police come, his vehicle is undrivable, what the heck is he gonna do with her body? There’s many other plausible scenarios, too. Why would he risk that when he could dump her body somewhere closer, in an area he’s familiar with, without a ton of traffic that also happens to be pretty desolate?
 
  • #434
The building to the right of the WM facility is the Teller County Sheriff's Department and Jail!

I can't believe he--or anyone!--would be stupid enough to dump incriminating evidence right next door to the sheriff's office. That would be nuts.

Or arrogant as heck. Rubbing everyone's noses in the dirt, per se.
 
  • #435
Re: the dog breeding info. So does the buyer travel to the breeder to get the dog, or does the breeder bring the dog to they buyer? May show familiarity with the area.
 
  • #436
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  • #438
Normal prices for a started/trained BC.
Really? Were they the same dogs that were shown lunging aggressively at cattle? They did not even look like pure bred BCs to me. A little bit of an aggresive breed in that line.
 
  • #439
If he did, he wouldn't have been the first to take that risk. This couple drove over 1200 miles with a dead body.

NC woman convicted after trying to feed woman's body to alligators

Getting rid of a dead body quickly to minimize the risk of getting caught is more insiteful and less risky than possessing it for hundreds of miles in a truck, horse trailer, Uhaul, it doesn’t really matter. So lets say, for example, PF is en route to Idaho and has a wreck. Police come, his vehicle is undrivable, what the heck is he gonna do with her body? There’s many other plausible scenarios, too. Why would he risk that when he could dump her body somewhere closer, in an area he’s familiar with, without a ton of traffic that also happens to be pretty desolate?
 
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