CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #11

[Janieva]

I find it interesting that her phone pings where she has family.

Cn you say more about this statement? thank you

 

[BRRI]

I haven't followed many cases, mainly joined and followed the threads on KB because of living in Woodland Park .

Is the lack of information given by LE, and KB's family typical in most cases? I had thought more would of been said following search of PF's property, and more in general.

I was initially under the impression that KB's family thought she left on her own accord just based on interviews, however at this point it looks like that would be a miracle.

Waiting patiently for a break in the case.

We had very little with Mollie Tibbetts. I think this is a bit worse, but similar.

 

[Jennifer17]

What behavior? I don’t think we have seen much of his current behavior since he’s not talking

His not talking behaviour, his failing to report her missing, his refusal to talk to LE, his disinterest in finding her.

 

[EmilyVan]

I saw nothing new on any local *Denver* news at 10P. FYI.

 

[BRRI]

to hold it over him and make him stay with them: "we did all this for you and now you want to leave?" he's too weak to stand up to them and do what he wants so he punishes those closest to him. coward.

I’d agree except with the coward part. If that were the situation, he was likely controlled from a young age and this is all he knows. That kind of mind warp doesn’t make him a coward, it would make him a victim of his parents (IF that were the case.). I think it’s more likely that he possibly felt that he needed to take care of his mom if she is disabled. Felt a responsibility for it.

 

[MCDRAW]

I didn't say, "only".

Here is what I think.

Too many unknowns. I think it was someone she knew, but really, her life, her work are totally obscured.

I was wondering if she was a jogger and it was a hit-and-hide situation, but it won't explain the texts.

I am surprised that no one volunteered to speak about her - from her past life.

LE probably has his/her reasons. But since I don't know them, in all fairness, I am not yet ready to accuse PF only. Tons of variables.

I think it's odd that he wouldn't wonder,worry about her. Call around, call her and see when she was coming back. I'm just wondering if he did nothing to her, are there any decent people left out there? He has made himself look guilty by not reporting her missing, and not helping investigators to find her. JMO

 

[Charlot123]

Perhaps the cinnamon rolls have sprouted mold. I wonder if anyone cleaned out the refrigerator? It probably looks like a science experiment by now.

I think the cinnamon rolls have cracked up and were moved to witness protection program.

(Sorry, I know it is not a joking matter. I, for one, don't put much faith in the rolls, either way, I think KB was in a hurry).

 

[Esma]

Waiting for a break in the case and praying for some comfort for her family missing her. I have plenty of theories, but that doesn’t help much. I hope my prayers will ease some of the pain her family and friends are going thru. This is so sad.

 

[Jessthinkin]

Now now.... we websleuths of all people should be familiar with many examples of stranger/acquaintance abduction.

And then there is also the possibility that KB left Woodland Park on her own (no, I don't know how she got to Idaho).

But the point is that we are so hyper-focused on finding evidence to convict PF that we aren't even considering other possibilities. It seems to me that since the information from LE is trickling out so slowly that perhaps we could use some time to consider other scenarios, no matter how unlikely they may seem at first blush.

You had me at ‘unlikely’...

 

[MassGuy]

We had very little with Mollie Tibbetts. I think this is a bit worse, but similar.

It’s worse because of all the time that passed between her disappearance and the discovery of it.

We had a pretty decent timeline to work with there.

We also knew a lot about her, and had no shortage of people coming out and speaking on her behalf.

There’s just so much damn mystery here.

About all of it.

 

[crhedBngr]

I saw nothing new on any local *Denver* news at 10P. FYI.

Thanks to you and @PommyMommy for keeping us updated.

 

[BRRI]

His not talking behaviour, his failing to report her missing, his refusal to talk to LE, his disinterest in finding her.

Would he do that if he knew where the body was? I just don’t see a correlation there. His actions don’t really tell me either way about that. They tell me he has a lawyer, basically. I’d point more towards possible abuse of animals and a raging temper as evidence of involvement, along with (likely) last to see her alive, possibly last to talk with her

On the official Facebook page, it was stated that her brother always talked to her multiple times a week. He didn’t report her missing either. So something could have been going on that made both her brother and PF not think to report her missing. Pieces that we don’t know yet.

 

[BRRI]

It’s worse because of all the time that passed between her disappearance and the discovery of it.

We had a pretty decent timeline to work with there.

We also knew a lot about her, and had no shortage of people coming out and speaking on her behalf.

There’s just so much damn mystery here.

About all of it.

Agree. It could also be because Mollie seemed pretty extroverted. And social media friendly. KB wasn’t really on social media much, as per her friends and family.

 

[gngr~snap]

We won't be told, but regular check ups are usually due @ 12 mos and 15 mos.
I am 100% sure that the doctor that sees her child has been contacted- if she has one. Based on her career path, I believe she would have her baby seen regularly as recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics.
If she had any prior concerns with PF caring for her daughter, it would have been addressed.
Either way IMO someone is looking into the child's medical history.
However, as we all know, private daycare or having a family member care for a baby can be the best or the worst decision a parent can make. Behind closed doors, with no one checking on child safety issues is a slippery slope!
Moo

 

[MassGuy]

Agree. It could also be because Mollie seemed pretty extroverted. And social media friendly. KB wasn’t really on social media much, as per her friends and family.

That’s a great point.

If you have social media, we generally think we know a lot about you.

Just look at Shanann Watts.

 

[Hopefullyhelpful]

I think the cinnamon rolls have cracked up and were moved to witness protection program.

(Sorry, I know it is not a joking matter. I, for one, don't put much faith in the rolls, either way, I think KB was in a hurry).

In a hurry to what?

 

[MCDRAW]

Plus, if KB was the one sending the texts to buy time or whatever, I think she would have sent one to her mother. She must have known that if she was gone for too long her mom would get worried. MOO.

Good point.

 

[Jennifer17]

I honestly do not believe, given the circumstances as they stand that the child is in any danger.

 

[Charlot123]

I think it's odd that he wouldn't wonder,worry about her. Call around, call her and see when she was coming back. I'm just wondering if he did nothing to her, are there any decent people left out there? He has made himself look guilty by not reporting her missing, and not helping investigators to find her. JMO

Yes, but it could have been the other way around. He planned on spending Thanksgiving with her, and she said, no, I have other plans, I am leaving for Soap Lake, bye. Then he got upset, "I don't quite believe you, but whatever. Don't bother to come back".

(Just trying to imagine the situation when I would not report someone missing - exactly one, if I suspected that the person was traveling with someone else).

 

[MassGuy]

I honestly do not believe, given the circumstances as they stand that the child is in any danger.

I don’t either. I’d still prefer her to be taken away from him, but I don’t think she’s in any jeopardy.