CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #11

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Thank you for this interesting post, Charlot123!
Ketamine is a popular recreational drug here in the Pacific Northwest -- for humans.
My vet told me he doesn't like using Ketamine on small animals - cats and little dogs - because it can have an effect like LSD and its very stressful for the animal.
I always ask my vet now, if they use gas or ketamine for my cats when they have dentals. It took my cats at least 2 days to get back to normal after dental surgery when they used Ketamine in strong doses. They did better under gas.

And on a different note, I have often wished I had a horse tranquilizer for my chronic insomnia because the usuals don't work!!:p
moo
Weed is legal there! Get yourself some cannabis tincture for sleep!
 
I believe that is what was PF communicated to the family early on - something to make people think it would be expected for her to go silent for a little bit. Maybe a flight somewhere or training? I think that's why her mom didn't report her missing at first. He clearly had quite the story at the beginning. and then whatever resolution he said would happen at a certain time, never happened.

Would he do that if he knew where the body was? I just don’t see a correlation there. His actions don’t really tell me either way about that. They tell me he has a lawyer, basically. I’d point more towards possible abuse of animals and a raging temper as evidence of involvement, along with (likely) last to see her alive, possibly last to talk with her

On the official Facebook page, it was stated that her brother always talked to her multiple times a week. He didn’t report her missing either. So something could have been going on that made both her brother and PF not think to report her missing. Pieces that we don’t know yet.
 
Voluntary committed means, one signs himself in. But that could explain the long drive as she probably won't be willing to get commuted in Colorado. Now, I guess FBI has checked all facilities, but what if a person signs under a different name? Can happen.
I am pretty sure in that situation that they would ask for ID.
 
Voluntary committed means, one signs himself in. But that could explain the long drive as she probably won't be willing to get commuted in Colorado. Now, I guess FBI has checked all facilities, but what if a person signs under a different name? Can happen.

I guess you could sign in under a fake name, but you wouldn't be able to use your insurance so it would be pricey...and if she had been involuntarily committed, law enforcement likely would have been involved so they would know where she was. I think we can most likely rule this option out. MOO, of course.
 
yes, and if this happened, by now her family would probably have found out. But I think PF really told them a story.

I guess you could sign in under a fake name, but you wouldn't be able to use your insurance so it would be pricey...and if she had been involuntarily committed, law enforcement likely would have been involved so they would know where she was. I think we can most likely rule this option out. MOO, of course.
 
I believe that is what was PF communicated to the family early on - something to make people think it would be expected for her to go silent for a little bit. Maybe a flight somewhere or training? I think that's why her mom didn't report her missing at first. He clearly had quite the story at the beginning. and then whatever resolution he said would happen at a certain time, never happened.
I think that the story he told was going to visit her grandmother and she dropped the baby off to him. I am relatively sure that he told that to her mother and he told LE that he picked the baby up at her house. I really think that the media have not got it wrong with two versions of dropped off or picked up, because he told two versions.
 
I think that the story he told was going to visit her grandmother and she dropped the baby off to him. I am relatively sure that he told that to her mother and he told LE that he picked the baby up at her house. I really think that the media have not got it wrong with two versions of dropped off or picked up, because he told two versions.
If he did tell a lie like this, it completely explains why law enforcement is so focused on him.

He may be in bigger trouble than we realize.
 
right, but her mother said the grandmother knew nothing of the trip. I would think CB would not wait as long to report her missing as she did if she was unable to reach KB and didn't show up at the g'mother's place. obviously he did tell them that, but I just don't see how they bought it for so long.

I think that the story he told was going to visit her grandmother and she dropped the baby off to him. I am relatively sure that he told that to her mother and he told LE that he picked the baby up at her house. I really think that the media have not got it wrong with two versions of dropped off or picked up, because he told two versions.
 
It was asked in the previous thread "what is the maximum distance a tower can be pinged from", in part to analyze the hypothesis that the ping from KB's phone was sent from an extended range via some sort of booster. I replied in that thread but want to repeat here.

I am an engineer although not a cell phone engineer. After digging deeply into the technical documentation of various cell phone protocols I've come up with the following absolute distance limits:

GSM: 35 km (21 miles)
"Extended Range" GSM: 70 km (42 miles)
LTE: 100 km (62 miles)

These limits are due to timing and not signal strength.

Without geeking out into the details, here is how a ping works:

Tower: Have any new phones wandered into my range?
Phone: I'm a phone!
Tower: Who are you?
Phone: I'm KB's phone!

Until the last message completes the phone has not identified itself. However, the cell phone standards requires that these messages happen with very strict timing. And that timing dictates that even for radio signals traveling at the speed of light, the sending phone isn't going to be further away than the standard allows.

Bottom line: The theory of a cowboy in his truck on a mountain in Colorado sticking up an antenna and pinging a tower in Idaho is impossible.

Source: I looked at about two dozen documents to figure this out. A very concise, although technical, description of the distance limit can be found in this document.

SWOON!!

Steaming things up again by repeating well-researched and explained info... ❤️
 
There is so much we don’t know about the people involved, the evidence they have, the texts, all of it. We are relying on our individual spidey-senses based upon the few tidbits we have. A fairly blank canvas. I hope the next few days brings forth some facts we can dive into. I feel like we have nothing to work with but abstract at this point. A very alarming headline, with very little content. I pray that LE has made much more progress than we are aware of.
 
Voluntary committed means, one signs himself in. But that could explain the long drive as she probably won't be willing to get commited in Colorado. Now, I guess FBI has checked all facilities, but what if a person signs under a different name? .
perhaps an ER would entertain this. but *IMO* they'd likely not admit without ID to verify you are who you say you are.
 
I really hope there is closure here before the end of the year... :(


SWOON!!

Steaming things up again by repeating well-researched and explained info... ❤️

Would never want MassGuy to feel left out, so I'm calling dibs on him just FYI to all you other ladies.
He almost always says what I'm thinking, the amount of typing he saves me is UNREAL! :cool:
 
If he did tell a lie like this, it completely explains why law enforcement is so focused on him.

He may be in bigger trouble than we realize.
I just don't think he would tell 2 different stories. He seems pretty collected, to me. He got an atty. just when he needed to and has not spoken with the media. He is covering himself pretty well. He has some family in LE and imo seems to understand some of the workings. He's given nothing as far as interviews to anyone, not even LE.
Sometimes silence is golden and sometime silence speaks volumes. I think both are in place in this case. jmo
 
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