CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #11

[Jennifer17]

ITA about the people she works with maybe knowing something that could help the investigation. I'm not saying they are at all involved in her disappearance, but they might be able to provide some insight into KB and PG's relationship. She may have opened up to someone there and let them know how things were.

I think that she was a very private person and may not have share her relationship problems with anyone.

 

[Jennifer17]

Here is a newpaper with a nice pic of the ranch. But if you scroll down, there is a larger pic of Kelsy with the car seat. Does anyone see a 1 year old in there? Was the baby very tiny? The average 1 yr old is 30 inches and 23 lbs. Could a 1 year old of that size be in that crumpled blanket?

BBM. What are you suggesting here?

 

[alucardsdream]

I think that she was a very private person and may not have share her relationship problems with anyone.

True, but her coworkers might be able to say if she ever came to work upset about anything, or excited about plans...anything they could add would probably help the investigation.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

You were talking about your father in law, not the father of your child.

Sorry, I meant my husband. I've been waiting for my son to call. My daughter is law is about to give birth any day and I'm really anxious and excited. I keep the phone next to me and keep checking it. My first grand child!

 

[Jennifer17]

@Jennfer1
7, in 21st century very few people would view mental illness as "victim blaming".

In my opinion it is victim blaming when it is used as and excuse for what happened to her.

 

[Charlot123]

Maybe we should not assume that he is NOT alarmed. People come in all sizes and shapes. Take someone with Asperger Syndrome as an example. Their behavior doesn't always match up to what they feel.

One thing is known for sure, Aspies are notoriously bad at public interviews. So an Aspie would definitely try to avoid the reporters, and for a good reason, because his demeanor and language would not match the words or emotions.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

BBM. What are you suggesting here?

That I can't see the baby in the car seat and the pic is looking down upon the car seat. Is the car seat that big? What do you see?

 

[Charlot123]

Sorry, I meant my husband. I've been waiting for my son to call. My daughter is law is about to give birth any day and I'm really anxious and excited. I keep the phone next to me and keep checking it. My first grand child!

Good luck! Happy for you, and slightly envious

 

[jillianelaine]

Is it known whether she disappeared ON Thanksgiving was opposed to the same day her phone pinged? Or the two texts were sent? (I can not recall which day her brother appeared at her home)

 

[alucardsdream]

That I can't see the baby in the car seat and the pic is looking down upon the car seat. Is the car seat that big? What do you see?

I watched the video of the surveillance camera in slow-motion and could make out a head. You can kind of see it here: Google Image Result for https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/f3ad567/2147483647/strip/true/crop/992x558+0+93/resize/1280x720!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewscripps.brightspotcdn.com%2Fa0%2F95%2Fb83c37a14e93996c5d5a97eb29bd%2Fwoodlandparkpolice.jpg

 

[SandyQLS]

You don't think that her fiance should be alarmed at the mother of his child is missing?

The only evidence of fiance status comes from CB. There is no registry at a departmebt store, there is no date, there is no deposit on a venue one year out, no request with a minister or church, no dress, no bridesmaids on call. IMO PF is not the fiance, not the boyfriend, just the other coparent.

He got a text from her. So, No, I do not believe KB missing is his problem but her family's problem.

 

[jillianelaine]

One thing is known for sure, Aspies are notoriously bad at public interviews. So an Aspie would definitely try to avoid the reporters, and for a good reason, because his demeanor and language would not match the words or emotions.

Often they do not like change (i.e.live at home until later stages of life) have poor social interactions (i.e. they may have a girlfriend however the relationship might seem less emotional than what one might expect), and relate to hobbies more than people (i.e. may have fewer friends than what one might expect).... They often like being around animals more than humans!

 

[glamourkitty1922]

He lives on 35 acres with a few head of cattle and a couple of horses. His mother could have thrown a bale of hay into their enclosures.

LOL, livestock takes more care than that. Farms and ranches of any size is labor intensive.

 

[Jennifer17]

Often they do not like change (i.e.live at home until later stages of life) have poor social interactions (i.e. they may have a girlfriend however the relationship might seem less emotional than what one might expect), and relate to hobbies more than people (i.e. may have fewer friends than what one might expect).... They often like being around animals more than humans!

We went through all this stuff with Chris Watts too and it turned out that he was just a common garden variety murderer.

 

[MassGuy]

The only evidence of fiance status comes from CB. There is no registry at a departmebt store, there is no date, there is no deposit on a venue one year out, no request with a minister or church, no dress, no bridesmaids on call. IMO PF is not the fiance, not the boyfriend, just the other coparent.

He got a text from her. So, No, I do not believe KB missing is his problem but her family's problem.

Her going missing “is her family’s problem?”

I don’t care if they were engaged or not, together or broken up, she is the mother of his child.

He got a text from her, likely because he sent it to himself.

She is missing, likely because of him.

She is very likely dead, at his hand.

Oh, it’s his problem all right.

 

[Jennifer17]

LOL, livestock takes more care than that. Farms and ranches of any size is labor intensive.

What labor intensiveness is required for a couple of horses and a few head of cattle? He seemed to be able to leave his 'ranch' often to compete in rodeos.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Good luck! Happy for you, and slightly envious

Thank you! I'm already embroidering everything imaginable for the baby.

 

[glamourkitty1922]

What labor intensiveness is required for a couple of horses and a few head of cattle? He seemed to be able to leave his 'ranch' often to compete in rodeos.

He probably had people to take care of the animals. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that he asked anyone to come care for the livestock. The police would have checked on it. My "ranch" consists of peacocks, parrots, cats, and dogs and I have to have someone come in to care for them if we're going to be gone overnight or longer.

 

[Writestuff]

it's actually not clear unless the neighbor was a male or gender neutral.

I apologize that was my bad.
The neighbor who WPU was conversing with was a woman.
I took it to mean the neighbor’s driveway was blocked sometimes by the truck when PF came to do the pick up or drop off.
I will get clarification unless this has already been confirmed.
Also PF does have a dk blue truck as well. It was seen at his property. Not sure if this is same vehicle that was spotted at KB residence. That was speculated it was one and same.

 

[Kapua]

Expanding on a thought from the previous thread. I said that IMHO, KB leaving the home with only her purse indicates that she probably got in a vehicle with Someone Else. If I am right, her cell phone was most likely in that purse at the time. And if that cell phone was tracking her location, LE will know exactly where it went. IMHO, that might have been the basis for them to obtain the search warrant for PF's home.