CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #13 *ARREST*

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  • #501
We are going to find out they were not engaged. You will see. This wasn’t about a break up. MOO
I can see him having a significant other that played a roll somewhere along the line, either as a participant in the crime or in the cover up.
 
  • #502
Zach Thaxton on Twitter
Zach Thaxton‏ @ZachThaxton 5m5 minutes ago
Zach Thaxton Retweeted Rob McCallum

No video recording allowed inside courtroom for Patrick Frazee's first appearance before a judge. EMC (Expanded Media Coverage) request denied. #KelseyBerreth

Zach Thaxton added,

Rob McCallum @rwmccallum
The Court has denied the EMC requests for today's 3:30 pm advisement of Patrick Frazee. No cameras in court. No cell phones either.
1 reply2 retweets1 like
 
  • #503
The best thing I heard is the baby will be reunited with her maternal family.
She will heal them.
Happy tears among the sad right now thinking of CB getting to finally snuggle her granddaughter.
 
  • #504
The DA nor the chief never said “solicitation for murder”. They only said “solicitation”. And when the DA started explaining the statute, he didn’t mention murder then, either. Instead, I believe he started out talking about burglary if memory serves.

So the more I think about, the more I wonder if PF solicited someone to break in, and things went sideways.
IMO he was just using burglary as an example of a crime that could be solicited, not that a burglary was committed during or as part of this homicide. JMO
 
  • #505
Daughter will go with Kelsey's family❤️❤️❤️

This makes me happy. I’m sure it gives the family some small measure of peace knowing baby will be safe with them.
 
  • #506
Fiancé of missing Colorado woman Kelsey Berreth charged in her murder

Patrick Frazee is being held at the Teller County Jail on charges of first-degree murder and solicitation of first-degree murder, prosecutors said at a press conference.

Frazee, who shares a 1-year-old daughter with Berreth, had not publicly commented on her disappearance. The daughter is now with child protective services, according to De Young.
 
  • #507
I hope this guy cooperates and they are able to bring Kelsey home to her family. Any word that he is talking yet? I saw that they believe he killed her in her home. I bet it was over custody of the baby. What an 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.
 
  • #508
I wonder what all the PF supporters are thinking now? I'm talking about the people who were trying to cast KB in a bad light while PF was walking around so cold and smug acting.
 
  • #509
We are going to find out they were not engaged. You will see. This wasn’t about a break up. MOO

I think her mom was coached, like Laci P’s mom, or the dude that killed the teacher he was engaged to (forgot his name), her parents did a PC with him, had their arms around him, offering comfort, at the request of LE.
Sharon would say nice things about Scott but she always seemed to have a far away look in her eyes.

So many crimes to keep up with. Even clicking a link to read about a specific case brings up too too many.
 
  • #510
IMO he tried to hire someone to kill her but ended up doing it himself.

based solely on there's no other arrests. that person probably talking.
 
  • #511
her cousin said it's a long story... her mom said he had financial issues because the prices of cattle have dropped... now we have solicitation of murder... I think the narrative is becoming a bit more clear
 
  • #512
What stood out most to me was the arrest was supported most by interviews

"Natalie Tysdal‏Verified account @NatalieTysdal 2m2 minutes ago
"Due to multiple interviews we were able to make an arrest". #KelseyBerreth

KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 News‏Verified account @KKTV11News 2m2 minutes ago
Multiple interviews led law enforcement last night to believe they were at a point where they could get a warrant for Frazee's arrest. #KelseyBerreth"


I have wondered if it being said that they got along and loved each other was front.
 
  • #513
I doubt whoever he solicited to commit murder came forward to police
1. Police say an additional arrest as a result of the solicitation charge. If someone came forward they would ask for immunity
 
  • #514
If solicitation is involved is there a way to get around premeditation?
jmo

IANAL, but I don't see how? Isn't solicitation practically the definition of premeditation?
If he asked someone to murder her it was planned out. JMO.
 
  • #515
Hopefully the person he solicited revealed all he knew to LE.
 
  • #516
Fiancé of missing Colorado woman Kelsey Berreth charged in her murder

Patrick Frazee is being held at the Teller County Jail on charges of first-degree murder and solicitation of first-degree murder, prosecutors said at a press conference.

Frazee, who shares a 1-year-old daughter with Berreth, had not publicly commented on her disappearance. The daughter is now with child protective services, according to De Young.
Also from the link:

Authorities said they have not yet located the body of Kelsey Berreth, "but information has been developed" that is helping them narrow down the search. Woodland Park Police Chief Miles De Young said authorities believe she was killed at her home.
 
  • #517
@Seattle1 thanks for reposting right after me all the tweets for this case
 
  • #518
The DA nor the chief never said “solicitation for murder”. They only said “solicitation”. And when the DA started explaining the statute, he didn’t mention murder then, either. Instead, I believe he started out talking about burglary if memory serves.

So the more I think about, the more I wonder if PF solicited someone to break in, and things went sideways.

You must have been listening to a different news conference than me because in the one I listened to the DA clearly said solicitation of first degree murder.
 
  • #519
Fiancé Charged with Murdering Missing Colo. Mom as Their Daughter, 1, Is Safe in Protective Custody

Patrick Frazee, 32, was detained without incident on suspicion of first-degree murder and solicitation to commit murder in the first degree in the death of 29-year-old Kelsey Berreth, the Woodland Park Police Department said in a press release. Formal charges will be filed in the days ahead.

At a Friday press conference, authorities said more arrests in the case are possible and that cell phone records and other data led to Frazee’s arrest.
 
  • #520
We are going to find out they were not engaged. You will see. This wasn’t about a break up. MOO

So not about control, child custody or child support in your opinion? Then what do you think the motive was? What would constitute solicitation in your opinion?
 
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