CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #14 *ARREST*

[bestill]

Well if had accomplice/s maybe they'll roll. I'll bet a quilt block he did.

I so hope!!

 

[Deleted member 155000]

My first post!! Been just reading for a long time. I first found Websleuths way back during the Jodi Arias trial.. She's housed done the road from me as a matter of a fact. Anyway, I hadn't been on here since then and ended up following the Watts case on here. I definitely love this forum. So much knowledge, insight and integrity.

With that said, this case caught my attention for a number of reasons.

1. How odd is it that another young mom goes missing in Colorado right after the Watts case?
2. I've online dated throughout the years and honestly I would have never thought one thing about it until NOW. Especially meeting on a Christian site.
3. I come from a farming/ranching/rodeo background.

I do have a question/comment though.

After going back and watching the drone footage, I don't see one head of cattle on that 35 acres. He must have them elsewhere. Also, for someone that team ropes, he also must practice elsewhere because there is no arena there to practice. Most of my friends and family have a practice arena and have cattle. So,that leads to me ask.... Where are his cattle??? I would assume that he either keeps them at a friends place or has leased land? On the drone footage I see his horses in pens. There aren't any additional pens without a horse other than the round pen that is usually used for training. The other thing I noticed at the house were planting pots on the porch and just off of the porch. I don't find this odd considering where he lives. They could be his mother's and since it's winter they wouldn't be growing anything. I did also notice some chicken wire around a few of the pots off of the porch. This again is normal to keep the critters out. There does also appear to be two dog crates just off of the porch as well. Not that anything the pots and the crates have anything to do with this case, I just noticed them. LOL

Anyway, where are the cattle??? Honestly, I would be looking there too!!

There actually was a case not that long ago where a landscaper hid body parts in planters on his client’s property. Not that I suspect that here, but odd you mention that specifically.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Someone up thread was asking for video of the property with a hole that was dug by law enforcement. There was a 9-minute drone video by Channel 9 I think, ( I cannot find it now) but two below are shorter versions.

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ETA, perfect timing following Peppermint Patties post above.

Welcome Peppermint Patty! I just saw you on television a couple of nights ago with Charlie.

 

[Peppermint Patty]

There actually was a case not that long ago where a landscaper hid body parts in planters on his client’s property. Not that I suspect that here, but odd you mention that specifically.

I totally thought of something like that when I was typing it.. Watch too many movies I guess. Yuck!

 

[scdiv]

But PF can only have an "alibi" if he picked up the baby and took her home and stayed there. If he returned to KB's by himself or with an accomplice, maybe telling his mother he was going out to have beer with his buds, his mother would have to explain that absence wouldn't she? And IF, she told police he was at home that night, that's risky because I'm thinking they have digital evidence and other evidence that will incriminate him even if he provides a false alibi.

The whole Thanksgiving holiday thing is such an odd time to pull off an alibi. I wonder what his family's scheduled Thanksgiving plans were. Was someone hosting a dinner where he was at least originally supposed to be? If so, were any extended family or family friends there? When did he show up with little K? Or did he at all? Who else did he interact with that day or that weekend?

 

[MassGuy]

There actually was a case not that long ago where a landscaper hid body parts in planters on his client’s property. Not that I suspect that here, but odd you mention that specifically.

Yeah, that was Canadian serial killer, Bruce McArthur.

First time killers aren’t nearly that reckless.

Usually.

 

[susiQ]

I think it's quite rare. In fact I've never seen a no body case charged this fast.

I only know of one. Dellen Millard. No body just ashes. 4 days from the time he went missing. LE found Tim Bosma's truck in his mother's driveway in a trailer. Thought he was SO smart. I think he'll be 102 when he gets out

 

[bestill]

My first post!! Been just reading for a long time. I first found Websleuths way back during the Jodi Arias trial.. She's housed done the road from me as a matter of a fact. Anyway, I hadn't been on here since then and ended up following the Watts case on here. I definitely love this forum. So much knowledge, insight and integrity.

With that said, this case caught my attention for a number of reasons.

1. How odd is it that another young mom goes missing in Colorado right after the Watts case?
2. I've online dated throughout the years and honestly I would have never thought one thing about it until NOW. Especially meeting on a Christian site.
3. I come from a farming/ranching/rodeo background.

I do have a question/comment though.

After going back and watching the drone footage, I don't see one head of cattle on that 35 acres. He must have them elsewhere. Also, for someone that team ropes, he also must practice elsewhere because there is no arena there to practice. Most of my friends and family have a practice arena and have cattle. So,that leads to me ask.... Where are his cattle??? I would assume that he either keeps them at a friends place or has leased land? On the drone footage I see his horses in pens. There aren't any additional pens without a horse other than the round pen that is usually used for training. The other thing I noticed at the house were planting pots on the porch and just off of the porch. I don't find this odd considering where he lives. They could be his mother's and since it's winter they wouldn't be growing anything. I did also notice some chicken wire around a few of the pots off of the porch. This again is normal to keep the critters out. There does also appear to be two dog crates just off of the porch as well. Not that anything the pots and the crates have anything to do with this case, I just noticed them. LOL

Anyway, where are the cattle??? Honestly, I would be looking there too!!

Good observations, I noticed no run in sheds for the horses to protect them from the weather unless he used the barn. Would love to know the interior layout of the barn, it looks to me to be more living space.

 

[moonlessnight]

I've been working and preparing for being Santa. was the temp custody hearing ever determined whether it was filed before KB went missing or since PF's arrest?

 

[SoVeryMe]

But in order to get a mtge someone has to have adequate income
to pay back the mtge. If mom is on disability I doubt she earns
enough to borrow much money. Unless she has 1 or 2 co-signers. I suspect they'll stick with the free public defender.

I don’t think it’s been verified mom is on disability. She has an active RN license but whether she is still practicing or not I’m not sure. One of my good friends was on trial for vehicular manslaughter. She had to refinance her home to pay the attorney fees. She was able to pay the retainer up front but continues to make monthly payments. I’m not sure if this is common practice or not.

Edited to remove accidental quote.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Did you guys follow the Mollie Tibbett’s case? Remember the red herring pig farm? I seem to remember people on that case claiming there were ponds/swamps or something like that kept on some agricultural properties where farmers sometimes disposed of dead animals...gosh why can’t I remember the term? I just remember because people were theorizing that MT’s body could be impossible to find in such a dumping ground or that it could’ve been fed to the pigs.

I grew up in the country but didn’t know much about those references. But does anyone here give any merit to those ideas related to how farmers dispose of animal bodies?

 

[PommyMommy]

My first post!! Been just reading for a long time. I first found Websleuths way back during the Jodi Arias trial.. She's housed done the road from me as a matter of a fact. Anyway, I hadn't been on here since then and ended up following the Watts case on here. I definitely love this forum. So much knowledge, insight and integrity.

With that said, this case caught my attention for a number of reasons.

1. How odd is it that another young mom goes missing in Colorado right after the Watts case?
2. I've online dated throughout the years and honestly I would have never thought one thing about it until NOW. Especially meeting on a Christian site.
3. I come from a farming/ranching/rodeo background.

I do have a question/comment though.

After going back and watching the drone footage, I don't see one head of cattle on that 35 acres. He must have them elsewhere. Also, for someone that team ropes, he also must practice elsewhere because there is no arena there to practice. Most of my friends and family have a practice arena and have cattle. So,that leads to me ask.... Where are his cattle??? I would assume that he either keeps them at a friends place or has leased land? On the drone footage I see his horses in pens. There aren't any additional pens without a horse other than the round pen that is usually used for training. The other thing I noticed at the house were planting pots on the porch and just off of the porch. I don't find this odd considering where he lives. They could be his mother's and since it's winter they wouldn't be growing anything. I did also notice some chicken wire around a few of the pots off of the porch. This again is normal to keep the critters out. There does also appear to be two dog crates just off of the porch as well. Not that anything the pots and the crates have anything to do with this case, I just noticed them. LOL

Anyway, where are the cattle??? Honestly, I would be looking there too!!

Welcome to Websleuths, Peppermint Patty. Many of us are asking the same question. Where's the beef?!
MOO

 

[moonlessnight]

unfortunately, thanksgiving, christmas, and new years will be forever tainted for baby K.

The whole Thanksgiving holiday thing is such an odd time to pull off an alibi. I wonder what his family's scheduled Thanksgiving plans were. Was someone hosting a dinner where he was at least originally supposed to be? If so, were any extended family or family friends there? When did he show up with little K? Or did he at all? Who else did he interact with that day or that weekend?

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Yeah, that was Canadian serial killer, Bruce McArthur.

First time killers aren’t nearly that reckless.

Usually.

Wow, great memory! All I remembered was that he was a Canadian.

And yeah, I don’t pick PF to be a professional.

 

[SuperTmo]

Heather lived in my area, her murderers (I'm convinced were the Moorer's) are a special kind of evil, especially Tammy. You just can't make it up.

It’s always so sad to think of poor lost Heather, especially this time of year. I remember the first January she was missing her dad said that their Christmas tree was still up and the gifts were all still under it and it would be until she came home. Waiting for her to come home and celebrate Christmas with her family. I just sobbed for them when he said that. I hope that this Christmas they have some measure of peace knowing that Tammy is finally convicted of something.

 

[MassGuy]

Wow, great memory! All I remembered was that he was a Canadian.

And yeah, I don’t pick PF to be a professional.

Haaa. I did have to Google his name.

I’m not @PommyMommy

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I only know of one. Dellen Millard. No body just ashes. 4 days from the time he went missing. LE found Tim Bosma's truck in his mother's driveway in a trailer. Thought he was SO smart. I think he'll be 102 when he gets out

Jessica H. was never found, but Jeffrey Willis was found guilty of her murder.

 

[Mom24]

Oh yeah....I wonder if I should post a note on my devices: "Websleuthers will vouch for me!"

You guys will vouch for me, right?

jmo

"Nope, never heard of this person before in my life. WS you say? Nope, no poster I ever heard of!"

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I've been working and preparing for being Santa. was the temp custody hearing ever determined whether it was filed before KB went missing or since PF's arrest?

There’s been a little bit of variation in the reporting but most of us think it was filed AFTER.

 

[PommyMommy]

Did you guys follow the Mollie Tibbett’s case? Remember the red herring pig farm? I seem to remember people on that case claiming there were ponds/swamps or something like that kept on some agricultural properties where farmers sometimes disposed of dead animals...gosh why can’t I remember the term? I just remember because people were theorizing that MT’s body could be impossible to find in such a dumping ground or that it could’ve been fed to the pigs.

I grew up in the country but didn’t know much about those references. But does anyone here give any merit to those ideas related to how farmers dispose of animal bodies?

I remember that discussion. Was it a bog?
MOO