CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #14 *ARREST*

[enelram]

I've heard that a body put into a pig pit will be devoured overnight except for a few small bones and teeth.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I remember that discussion. Was it a bog?
MOO

I do think they may have used the word bog. You’re right. Anyone think that’s common place? Or was that just overactive imaginations?

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I've heard that a body put into a pig pit will be devoured overnight except for a few small bones and teeth.

People argued over that point a lot in the MT case. Some people swore they knew it was fact and others claimed it was myth.

 

[moonlessnight]

F/T farriers makes $92k/yr average.

Average Farrier Salary

Many have stated his income as $92,000 per year. I just don't see that on this small acreage, but assuming it is true, that was revenue...not income. That does not include the cost of hay and feed. I think he really was barely getting by raising and training dogs. MAYBE he made some money competing in team roping, but it is very expensive traveling and hauling horses. I don't know a lot of rich farriers, and many people do it themselves.

I really think he PLAYED at being a cowboy. Many people that have cattle that I know also have another job and raise the cattle as a sideline.

 

[bestill]

People argued over that point a lot in the MT case. Some people swore they knew it was fact and others claimed it was myth.

Same as a gator pit. Don't want to test it.

 

[Mom24]

Thinking about brothers on the force and mom being an RN, he could have had her convinced that if she ever dared to leave him, that they would smear her name, falsely accuse her of abuse etc...
If she was in an abusive situation, she may have thought no one would believe her.
Why Cinnamon rolls?
The neighbor said he never stayed overnight. That sounds like something one would make for breakfast after a "spend the night party"
I wonder, was any eaten?
Did it have only his DNA on it?
(Like the pizza from the case where the family was killed. - I forget the last name)
THAT could be why they believe she was killed on Thanksgiving- none of her DNA on the buns???
Moo

Did the neighbor say he didn't stay overnight? I remember the neighbor saying she thought he lived there? Can someone clarify?

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Same as a gator pit. Don't want to test it.

Hahahaha. I suppose we could insert all kinds of carnivores in this theory.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Did the neighbor say he didn't stay overnight? I remember the neighbor saying she thought he lived there? Can someone clarify?

I read both. Two different articles.

 

[esayer]

As an aside I now have a love/hate relationship with cinnamon rolls

I haven't had a cinnamon roll since high school, and I keep thinking I'll get some Pillsbury ones, and then always forget after I go to the store! I don't need them anyway but I have wanted some for weeks now lol.

 

[enelram]

People argued over that point a lot in the MT case. Some people swore they knew it was fact and others claimed it was myth.

This was also discussed in the mystery disappearance of a body
in the Piketon Ohio murder of 8 Rhoden family members.

 

[Kapua]

It’s possible (and hopeful) that by the time the trial rolls around, lots of pieces of evidence will have converged.

For example, I think it’s likely they have...

Unreleased video footage of Kelsey besides the Safeway one

Unreleased video footage of PF’s locations in the days that followed

Records of unusual phone activity from both their phones

Witnesses who have come forward to say they have reason to believe he would be violent

Friends of hers who come forward to say there were serious relationship issues

Evidence from the trash dump

Evidence of a crime from her house

Evidence he solicited someone else

What else am I missing?

They have PF's red truck. Who knows what LE may have found in/on it.

 

[LAHOLLA]

"Nope, never heard of this person before in my life. WS you say? Nope, no poster I ever heard of!"

Now that I think about it, I don’t really care if you vouch for me or not- just promise to search for me!

 

[BeckyF]

You have to be either a complete technology expert or use technology not at ALL to attempt to get away with a crime these days! I'd never chance it!

You've got that right!

 

[Yellow Rose]

I've heard that a body put into a pig pit will be devoured overnight except for a few small bones and teeth.

That was actually one of my very very first thoughts before all the drones and media. Did the ranch have a pig sty? Long since answered.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Did the neighbor say he didn't stay overnight? I remember the neighbor saying she thought he lived there? Can someone clarify?

Here’s where one said she thought he lived there: Neighbors described fiancé of missing Colorado woman as 'quiet' and 'good' | Daily Mail Online

Here’s one where a neighbor just talks about coming and going for the baby:
Neighbor: Kelsey Berreth is ‘a very kind-hearted person’

 

[SuperTmo]

Well if had accomplice/s maybe they'll roll. I'll bet a quilt block he did.

Lol “I’ll bet a quilt block...” I love that.

 

[Writestuff]

I've heard that a body put into a pig pit will be devoured overnight except for a few small bones and teeth.

WARNING...Sensitive material
I recently did some research about this for a book I was working on. I was trying to find if you could identify remains through pig excretion. Here is what I found:

A pig's body is also quite up to the task of digesting almost every part of the human body. They can not only chew and digest human flesh, they can also readily digest human bone without excreting a noticeable trace of it. Of course, they can't quite chew the skulls and longer bones that humans have, but if our killer has enough determination, they can just break said bones into smaller, more chewable pieces. They also can't digest human hair and teeth, but it should be a simple matter to shave your victims' heads and pull out their teeth before chow time, right?

Source: Fed to Pigs - TV Tropes

 

[Peppermint Patty]

Someone up thread was asking for video of the property with a hole that was dug by law enforcement. There was a 9-minute drone video by Channel 9 I think, ( I cannot find it now) but two below are shorter versions.

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ETA, perfect timing following Peppermint Patties post above.

Welcome Peppermint Patty! I just saw you on television a couple of nights ago with Charlie.

Thank you so much! and LOL too funny!! I forget I'm famous..

Good observations, I noticed no run in sheds for the horses to protect them from the weather unless he used the barn. Would love to know the interior layout of the barn, it looks to me to be more living space.

Look like a nice barn from the outside. Hopefully they got to use the inside at night!

And also he probably has a decent overhead; feeding, caring for the animals, buying the animals. Water, cleaning, etc, they aren't cheap, so he may have made 92 but after overhead and taxes? would be way way way less IMO.

My father was a farrier for 3 decades and that isn't an unattainable income alone. Add some cattle sales and it's possible. Without including right offs and such. Being self employed, all materials, feed, gas, vehicle depreciation etc. can be written off. Who knows?? But I can't says it's impossible to make that much.

It's also possible he didn't have too many clients (farrier wise). If he was a jerk then I would go with no.


Trying to figure out this quote/reply options. Hope I'm doing it right!

 

[Peppermint Patty]

Welcome to Websleuths, Peppermint Patty. Many of us are asking the same question. Where's the beef?!
MOO

LOL thank you!! Too Funny!!

 

[Mom24]

People argued over that point a lot in the MT case. Some people swore they knew it was fact and others claimed it was myth.

I think they got that idea from the Ashby pig farm murder.