CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #15 *ARREST*

[katydid23]

Sadly, I fear she may have made those cinnamon rolls for her killer. I am still of the mindset that someone she knew, maybe PF, called her the morning of Thanksgiving and told her he/they would be over later so she went to the grocery store to get something to make for them. I hate the thought.

I think she may have initially planned on sending the baked goods to the 'motherinlaw' as a Thanksgiving offering.

 

[Irmese]

I do not think he was being watched because it was the Waste management employee that called LE. So I am thinking if he hadn't called then they would not have known. That is how I took it. JMO

Agreed. Wasn't WM next to the police station? He thought he was being tricky. MOO.

 

[margarita25]

Re: disposal, I’m going with the obvious something to do with cattle/horses. That’s what he knows and is comfortable with so maybe it is simply Occam here. It wouldn’t have to be near either (barn?). (That’s as far as I want to go here with speculating about the various awful possibilities.)

Hoping Kelsey’s family get the answers they need and Kelsey can receive a respectful funeral/burial.

As for mileage stats, I would think IMO spouses may be possibly more inclined to travel further distances in the disposals as opposed to a random, opportunistic offender? Not sure what the stats say.

 

[The Farm]

He knew the media was watching him. Why would he risk it?

Oh I did not know the media followed him to the dump? Maybe I missed that but I thought I only read what I quoted, that it was a Waste management employee.
Otherwise I have no answer on what makes these people tick.....lol To think that someone could be that brazen, or should I say stupid?

 

[zecats]

The thing is, he really didn’t have to be quick about it.

He had access to her house, and knew that no one would be coming by.

He had more than a week to take all of the necessary steps, although I think he did just about everything in the time between the murder, and the ping on the 25th.

He could have killed her on Thanksgiving, taken a shower, gone home to drop the baby off, and returned under the cover of darkness to retrieve and dispose of the body.

He didn’t even have to do this on the same night, and could have taken the risk of making multiple trips.

Agreed. He had at least 10 days. Mom didn't become concerned until Dec 2. HE never reported her missing or asked for a welfare check. Then the texts to her work and "to him" were also IMO buying him time and meant to lead LE astray when and if they became involved. He may have even had time to repaint her place if indeed he did to cover up blood spatter.

I'm curious as to why, if this was preplanned and "thought out" then why would there be such a mess and why did it occur at her home. He could easily have led her out into the woods to search for a Christmas tree, for example, and then there would be no obvious crime scene. Not so well planned after all.

 

[MsBetsy]

In the Watts case people came forward and talked about their relationship. "They were so happy about the third child", "She thought he was cheating", "I don't think he wanted a 3rd kid, she did".... Regarding this case, where are all of the the Idaho friends, Colorado pals, colleagues, rodeo pals, neighbors, church worshippers, restaurant owners, Facebook friends.... when is ANYBODY going to comment on what they witnessed when they saw them together? Can anybody?

I don't know, but Kelseys mom implied that she did not have a large circle of friends, that she focused more on quality than quantity. We haven't heard anything from any members of a church she attended, so maybe she did not attend in Colorado. I get the feeling she was a very private person, who worked hard and spent all her free time caring for her child.
As far as them being seen together, they may not have spent much time together other than to exchange the child or maybe to take the child out somewhere. It doesn't seem to be the case that they were engaged, happy or loving as portrayed to the media. It does seem like no-one knows how they really were as a couple.
But it is unusual that no-one has come forward who knew her before she moved to Colorado. She must have had friends in college. Maybe they are private people too.
It would definitely be helpful to know more about the dynamics of their relationship. I think it was she who would have been the one to have second thoughts, who didn't want her child to grow up in the kind of "rodeo" lifestyle PF had, didn't want her daughter to learn to be cruel to animals and whatever bad habits her father may have had.
Or maybe it was mutual. Or maybe she wanted to be married and have a life with him, and he was leading her to believe he wanted that too. I just don't know. But I don't think she wanted anything to do with him if it meant him living with his mother for much longer. Maybe she put up with it for so long because she felt she had no choice. Maybe she finally put her foot down and he felt threatened, insulted, and angry. Imo

 

[cody22]

Agreed. Wasn't WM next to the police station? He thought he was being tricky. MOO.

I think he thought he was getting away with it. I don't think he ever got really scared until LE went back to Kelsey's looking for evidence the last time.

 

[Stunned]

How does that make them good fathers? (Not being sarcastic, just not sure what you mean)

It does not even matter...

Psychologically, I would have felt better if she moved on because the fact that she trusted him is so sad, but it is irrelevant. What is relevant, PF planned it, and killed the mother of his baby in some horrible way, and conspired, too, and staged KB’s disappearance, all this time looking into the eyes of the baby that Kelsey bore to him. Having deprived his child of the mother. He is a horrible human being.

I had a friend who we all thought had a pretty good marriage, until she Bacame pregnant. As her body changed her husband was apsolutely repulsed by her and told her often. When the baby came he wouldn’t even go to the hospital. Her Mother brought her home he took one look at her and said she still looked pregnant, and walked out. Her mother took her back to her home and there she stayed. Everyone had been appalled the whole pregnancy and held their breath while waiting to see what would happen. She started divorce proceedings. Needless to say, he didn’t have any friends left. And he never got to know what a lovely daughter and now Grandson he has.

 

[The Farm]

Agreed. Wasn't WM next to the police station? He thought he was being tricky. MOO.

Yes, right there pretty much! The Waste Management is off the road in the back a short way.

 

[GoJacks]

Oh I did not know the media followed him to the dump? Maybe I missed that but I thought I only read what I quoted, that it was a Waste management employee.
Otherwise I have no answer on what makes these people tick.....lol To think that someone could be that brazen, or should I say stupid?

I don't think media followed him to dump. we would have seen actual video of him at dump. we only saw LE at dump.

 

[1wonderleads2another]

I pray LE has more evidence on PF than just the word of his accomplice. As in recorded conversation or emails or texts.

Because otherwise PF defense could easily be that he never talked to the accomplice about murdering KB, this was all mad man accomplices idea and execution, that he (PF) loved KB, wanted marry her....blah blah .

Especially if accomplice knew or was acquaintance of KB.

 

[MsBetsy]

I can only recall reading about two aunts, one Uncle, the mother, and the two Neighbors coming on this case to the media. Perhaps there are others that I missed. It is surprising that the media has not gotten any of his Rodeo colleagues Etc to speak.

Although there was the one guy who said he cheated on his ex- girlfriend while she was in the hospital. That was posted this morning, I think. Then he said something like, "take that as you will."

 

[scmom]

Yes, right there pretty much! The Waste Management is off the road in the back a short way.

Lol, can you imagine that phone call from WM to LE, "Hey, y'all need to look out the window right now."

 

[allboys]

Delete

 

[MassGuy]

I pray LE has more evidence on PF than just the word of his accomplice. As in recorded conversation or emails or texts.

Because otherwise PF defense could easily be that he never talked to the accomplice about murdering KB, this was all mad man accomplices idea and execution, that he (PF) loved KB, wanted marry her....blah blah .

Especially if accomplice knew or was acquaintance of KB.

Juries never buy that, and it appears that they have a wealth of evidence at this point.

Plenty of people have been convicted of murder without a body, but the arrest isn’t usually this quick.

They have him.

 

[Irmese]

Charlot, do we know that he couldn’t have had access? For example, do vets ever give farmers or farriers tranquilizers to administer to their horses to help pacify an anxious animal? I know vets have given us tranquilizers for other animals before, but I don’t own a horse.

Product Knowledge: New Way to Sedate Problem Horses | American Farriers Journal

From other articles I read that it's illegal for farriers to administer sedatives to horses but apparently, it does sometimes happen. Usually, the owner would have to pay a vet to do it. I'm willing to bet he can get his hands on some type of horse tranquilizer.

 

[susiQ]

Agreed. Wasn't WM next to the police station? He thought he was being tricky. MOO.

Hmmm, his red truck was taken by LE and he had another green/blue(?) truck he was apprehended from during the arrest, but he was in a white truck pulling a trailer at the dump. I wonder who owns the white truck?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Re: disposal, I’m going with the obvious something to do with cattle/horses. That’s what he knows and is comfortable with so maybe it is simply Occam here. It wouldn’t have to be near either (barn?). (That’s as far as I want to go here with speculating about the various awful possibilities.)

Hoping Kelsey’s family get the answers they need and Kelsey can receive a respectful funeral/burial.

As for mileage stats, I would think IMO spouses may be possibly more inclined to travel further distances in the disposals as opposed to a random, opportunistic offender? Not sure what the stats say.

O/T Is your avatar Scooter?

 

[scdiv]

I pray LE has more evidence on PF than just the word of his accomplice. As in recorded conversation or emails or texts.

Because otherwise PF defense could easily be that he never talked to the accomplice about murdering KB, this was all mad man accomplices idea and execution, that he (PF) loved KB, wanted marry her....blah blah .

Especially if accomplice knew or was acquaintance of KB.

And then when KB ended up missing/dead, showed no sadness, sorrow, or grief for the mother of his child and woman he wanted to marry? And withheld Kelsey's child from seeing Kelsey's mother?

 

[Charlot123]

There are well known Doctors, Nurses, Attorneys that murder.
One's professional standing does not prevent murdering.
MOO.

Oh, I once read a book by Ann Rule about a plastic surgeon who murdered his wife, for the same old reason. So anyone can.