CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #16 *ARREST*

[bestill]

I just want to say.
There really are wonderful, loving, kind and considerate men in this world.
I married my Studly man with a heart of gold 30 years ago.
He is my hero.
He has allowed me to be me. All of me, which includes surprising him with numerous horses and dogs. And more.
All while being comfortable in his manhood.
I consider myself lucky to have found a true loving man.
He is 70 years old now, but he bikes, he power walks, he sails our little boat, he brings me coffee in the morning and he loves our doggies.
I could not love my best friend, and husband more.
I just wanted to let you know, there truly are good mates out there.
I am so sad for Kelsey and so many others who have met a monster, instead of a prince.

I love reading this and I agree it is sad that there are so many trusting woman falling victim to these creeps.

 

[Jennifer17]

I think she was financially independent and so was Kelsey.

Financially independent is not being fully independent. She had an adult son living with her. That is not psychologically independent to me.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

RSBM for focus

Good point, and that is entirely possible. But the article reads:

“In a separate document filed by Frazee's public defender, Frazee also refuses medical/psychiatric care while in custody.

These are two of several documents posted online. For a full list, click here.” (BBM)”
New court documents in State of Colorado v. Patrick Frazee

But none of the documents state that. It’s like fact-checking is a thing of the past. Scary stuff.

They clearly were not understanding this document correctly.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user..., Case law, and Constitutional Privileges.pdf

 

[Johnny1181]

A very special Christmas for me that year. A very special tribute, love song, promise and hope to the women lost, and the women saved. And to the team they always have here.

Reach out, listen and hear, love.

Good to see my old friends still advocating here.

 

[bestill]

Merry Christmas all, checking out for the night here.

 

[Trudie]

I just want to say.
There really are wonderful, loving, kind and considerate men in this world.
I married my Studly man with a heart of gold 30 years ago.
He is my hero.
He has allowed me to be me. All of me, which includes surprising him with numerous horses and dogs. And more.
All while being comfortable in his manhood.
I consider myself lucky to have found a true loving man.
He is 70 years old now, but he bikes, he power walks, he sails our little boat, he brings me coffee in the morning and he loves our doggies.
I could not love my best friend, and husband more.
I just wanted to let you know, there truly are good mates out there.
I am so sad for Kelsey and so many others who have met a monster, instead of a prince.

I, too, was blessed. Sadly, he passed two years ago. After a few dates, I have decided it’s best for me to remain single. Forever.
I’d rather be alone than be with the wrong person.
I’ve was blessed with a great husband, great horses & great dogs. What a happy life.

 

[NanZDrew]

Any hospital has incinerators. Any facility needing to destroy biohazard materials on a regular basis (there is one in Twin Falls - don't know why I looked it up) has incinerators. This, too, needs to be looked at.

I know that hazardous waste incinerators are highly regulated. Most even have cameras that can see things burn inside so that know what goes wrong and what is burned. I know that biohaz facilities would be regulated. Even if the waste is nonhazardous, they would be regulated and have to be permitted by the EPA. The concern are the emissions going in to the atmosphere. Not just anybody could go up and chunk something in to one.

 

[Hatch]

Jumping off your post I myself would add human tissue possibly from a drain.

For instance if there was something washed down the sink and the perpetrator did not realize there was a garbage disposal, those disposals hold everything . In my house my hubby has no idea and he never uses the garbage disposal.

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo insanity doesn’t really work in a murder for hire attempt, I don’t think...insanity, if and when it ever works, is usually some kind of off the wall spur of moment thing. Unless he tries to say he hear voices etc...

But without prior psychiatric history, such a plea would be doubtful. Besides...he won’t admit to anything jmo...

 

[NanZDrew]

Initially, I feared this might end like the Crystal Rogers case in KY. She went missing 3.5 years ago, her baby daddy is the prime suspect. Last I heard, he has FULL. Custody of their young son & the court upheld his right to halt visitation with her mom. Interestingly, Crystals father was murdered & remains an unsolved crime. He was found shot to death. The baby daddy has a bro that’s a cop & he was suspended from his position. Iirc, he lied to an investigator working Crystal’s murder. Rumors are rampant he helped dispose of remains.

What a nightmare!!!

 

[scdiv]

Do we know if they were "facebook status" in or was ever "in a relationship" ? I realize facebook relationship status means nothing in the real world and people put all kinds of things out there online for show or image. I'm just curious if amongst their facebook/close friends if they were still acting like they were in a relationship. Or if things weren't good and they were kind of private/on the down low in terms of what their public image was amongst their friends. (Both their social media pages were pretty locked down to the public.)

There was a public post on a public musician's page that KB tagged PF on several weeks ago, but don't seem to have any significance, other than she was thinking of him and likely not hating him.

 

[Hatch]

" The children were all snuggled, all safe in their beds, while visions of insomnia, red shirts, fitbits, phone pings, and cinnamon buns danced in their heads........." ..." Merry Christmas fellow sleuthers and sleutherettes !!!!! "

Merry Christmas ! The two prices of Baccardi rum cake I had was yummy !

 

[SoVeryMe]

I think KB outgrew him, emotionally, personally and professionally. She may have been more “demanding” of him as far as manning up and moving off of his momma’s “ranch”, by all indications I have noted he certainly doesn’t seem like the greatest catch IMO. Perhaps she had different goals than he did as far as where the relationship was or was not heading. She clearly was surrounded by professional people in her career and maybe began to realize that PF wasn’t going to change and cut the umbilical cord. Maybe he couldn’t handle the pressure of not living up to or meeting her needs, became increasingly resentful and because he has a fragile ego decided eliminating her would solve both their problems. Perhaps he felt emasculated or threatened by her independence and success, did she truly “need” him? All speculation on my part and not victim shaming whatsoever, living at moms while your baby girl and “fiancé” have a place of their own would be a deal breaker for me. In the end I hope she saw him for what he was and chose to break it off. He was never good enough for her.

 

[MassGuy]

Do we know if they were facebook status was or was ever "in a relationship" ? I realize facebook relationship status means nothing in the real world and people put all kinds of things out there online for show or image. I'm just curious if amongst their facebook/close friends if they were still acting like they were in a relationship. Or if things weren't good and they were kind of private/on the down low in terms of what their public image was amongst their friends. (Both their social media pages were pretty locked down to the public.)

There was a public post on a public musician's page that KB tagged PF on several weeks ago, but don't seem to have any significance, other than she was thinking of him and likely not hating him.

No relationship is official, until it is “Facebook official.”

If you’re in one, you have to post it on Facebook. It’s the law.

It would be interesting to have some detail as to how public their relationship was, but we can add that to our list of things that we would like to know, but don’t.

Hopefully we’ll learn more someday soon.

 

[NanZDrew]

I just want to say.
There really are wonderful, loving, kind and considerate men in this world.
I married my Studly man with a heart of gold 30 years ago.
He is my hero.
He has allowed me to be me. All of me, which includes surprising him with numerous horses and dogs. And more.
All while being comfortable in his manhood.
I consider myself lucky to have found a true loving man.
He is 70 years old now, but he bikes, he power walks, he sails our little boat, he brings me coffee in the morning and he loves our doggies.
I could not love my best friend, and husband more.
I just wanted to let you know, there truly are good mates out there.
I am so sad for Kelsey and so many others who have met a monster, instead of a prince.

How blessed you are, and I figure you are an amazing woman to have kept a man like this. Good marriages require 2 selfless, committed persons. My dad once told me marriage isn't 50/50, it's 100/100. Kelsey deserved a man like your prince.

 

[Hatch]

I wonder if there's a 2nd body out there somewhere. Maybe PF found 2 people at the condo and went into a jealous rage...

I just pray baby K as not in the condo when the deed was done. Have a feeling he took her to his Mothers.

 

[cluciano63]

Murders have happened since the beginning of time...men killing the women in their lives, probably as long. That won’t ever change. We seem to hear about them more and more, but that is partly because we are attuned to following crime news, partly because they are reported on the internet so nothing is really “local” and imo, partly due to greater access to drugs, booze, guns, etc...

All we can do is make help available for those who need it/ask for it (for domestic violence) and hope to convict the perps. Murder isn’t going away any time soon...

But Kelsey could not have done anything for a different outcome...hard to do when someone is plotting to kill you and no one tells you. Jmo

 

[Warwick7]

Someone a ways back raised


I would think that based on just his initial interview of not contacting her mom or police once missing, he was suspect. Once, they saw her belongings were left behind with her cars and he by his own admission saw her last he was suspect. I was under the impression that LE probably collected evidence but kept appearances routine to keep PF less apprehensive.

Yes, I agree!! When I watched CB's first interview. She acted like she was always keeping herself in check. Very wise. She chose her words carefully.
I thought PF's lawyer sent defamation of character papers to the Mom. But, now MOO is LE asked her to behave this way. It was like a pacifier to PF or at least the situation. So he wouldn't hurt the baby or run with the baby. There needed to be time to find evidence and arrest PF.

 

[Trudie]

How the heck did he get her body out of he home without being seen? It seems to lack privacy, IMO.
Maybe the fact that Xmas season was upon us if anyone saw him, they didn’t take note. I know we’ve heard no reports but people do forget, can’t recall correct dates and so forth.
I guess no camera captured him leaving her ‘hood. Or even entering. But if he was on tape departing, it might help establish times, did he turn, go straight, etc. just a thought.

 

[heartgoesout]

IIRC, PF's the source of the "handoff"/custody exchange of the baby story, (other than those who repeated what he said) so I give it zero credence. KB told her mom on the phone that morning that they were having dinner together, and maybe getting a Christmas tree, so I think PF concocted the "handoff" story to support his narrative of KB breaking up with him and taking off, leaving him with the baby...

I’ve got egg nog brain. This is the first I’m hearing of a Christmas tree? Is this what her mother said?