CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #18 *ARREST*

[gitana1]

Ah, yes. I do recall this reasoning, and it sounds good. I agree with the possibility of a photo because:
a) PF doesn't appear to be the smartest fella I've ever read about
b) a couple of boys, late teens, burned down a warehouse in my town, and they were taking pictures and sending videos to friends because they were having so much fun.

You are more likely right about this as I've not studied this and you appear to have.

I can't equate a fully grown man who wants to get rid of the mother of his child and murders her with teenagers who lack full frontal lobe development and think it's fun to burn buildings and don't appreciate the consequences of that (due to the lack of frontal lobe development).

He didn't take pictures of the woman he murdered, IMO.

I don't know. I just don't think this case is as complicated as some might think? It just seems to me like a good ol' boy who wanted to get rid of the mother of his child and who asked for help accomplishing the "task" and getting rid of evidence after it was done.

Someone has talked. But there may also be accomplices not yet charged. Or not.

 

[WildWest]

I have been wondering how do you do that?

Oh my, I'm an idiot farm, forgot to type it LOL.

This one

@

same one used in email addresses

 

[Wild Rose]

Just wondered about two things. Remembering PF hauling that little girl into his truck like a sack of potatoes IMO. I wonder now if he kept her away from people in case she might blurt something out...Also KB might have been face timing her parents and brothers as much as she could, they may feel very connected to the little one and the little one to them, I see many families do this, even ones that live close by each other.

 

[gitana1]

CB mentioned in one of her interviews that KB had asked her for a recipe on Thanksgiving when they spoke but never specified what the recipe was or who KB was making something for. I’ve been wondering why no mention of what KB was going to be making?

If I ask my mom for a recipe I usually say “oh I want to make this for so and so”....

Thoughts on why there has been no mention of what KB was going to make? Not relevant or???

Just something that struck me as odd.

Either it's not relevant or it is. And if it is it's not going to be mentioned. If it's not it's not going to be mentioned.

 

[gitana1]

Possibly the photo wasn't intended to derive some sort of future satisfaction? As you said, this was business. Possibly it was necessary to prove something to someone. Dang it Mass, let me be me, and ramble!

If someone was hired to kill her and sent proof that they did to someone. That could work. But if that was the case we would see another arrest already, IMO.

 

[MassGuy]

^THIS^ to no photo, and this was business

In today's People article, the donkey rescue associate stated that PF seemed entirely calm. Unusual?

Very.

He was trying to sell the story that he was an innocent man, one with nothing to hide.

A real innocent person would still be in a state of panic, as not only is the mother of your child missing, but law enforcement seems to be closing in on you.

In trying to act innocent, he effectively did the opposite.

Chris Watts tried to do the same thing, albeit in a different way.

Hopefully they both suffer the same fate.

 

[Jupiter05]

I was liking the rythym of Frazee (warrant) Friday that we have experienced for two weeks in a row. The day is not yet over. I feel something brewing. Hoping KB will be found and that the other (s) involved will be brought in. Soon. Very soon.

 

[gitana1]

Just wondered about two things. Remembering PF hauling that little girl into his truck like a sack of potatoes IMO. I wonder now if he kept her away from people in case she might blurt something out...Also KB might have been face timing her parents and brothers as much as she could, they may feel very connected to the little one and the little one to them, I see many families do this, even ones that live close by each other.

Someone mentioned somewhere that her mom came to visit a lot. Or vice versa.

 

[WildWest]

Did PF hire someone named Johnny to beat up African- American women and get rid of KB's body and I missed it ??????????????

Sorry if you are joking, but incase you are not, a member here last night named @Johnny1181 had a woman above her in trouble and she let the woman in and called the cops for her. Not related to the case. Sorry for the confusion. And LOL if you are joking.

Search her name here and you can see what she wrote about what happened.

 

[The Farm]

@WildWest

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, thank you, so simple.

 

[jillianelaine]

Huh? Are you saying CB was lying in her media interviews? I agree she might have avoided saying anything bad about PF but I doubt she lied about the contents of her recent conversations with KB. JMO.

LE may have assumed PF would be at the press conference. Some questions may have been staged, providing LE an opportunity to see how PF responded. I keep going back to the Christmas decorating. Like myself, I don't believe CB celebrated Christmas and therefore thought it was odd for her to talk about her daughters happiness in terms of Christmas preparations and shopping for trees. If there was reason for LE to suspect PF got her into the woods on a pretense of tree shopping, they may have instructed CB to talk about trees, hoping he might freak out and return to where the body was hidden. I suspect at the time of the press conference they had him under 24 hour surveillance.

 

[Steelslady]

She might be the only person who remembers him from high school.

Or maybe she's one of his exes. *shudder*

 

[otto]

Seems we forgot to make a map, or it is very well hidden.

I'm happy to put it together. Please note, this is a back and forth process that takes a few steps of refinement to get right.

Locations that need addresses:

Safeway
Kelsey's home
PK's acreage
Waste Disposal
Phone Ping

Here's the starting point. If anyone has approximate addresses for these places, please add to this comment.

 

[WildWest]

@WildWest

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, thank you, so simple.

Awesome

 

[MsBetsy]

CB mentioned in one of her interviews that KB had asked her for a recipe on Thanksgiving when they spoke but never specified what the recipe was or who KB was making something for. I’ve been wondering why no mention of what KB was going to be making?

If I ask my mom for a recipe I usually say “oh I want to make this for so and so”....

Thoughts on why there has been no mention of what KB was going to make? Not relevant or???

Just something that struck me as odd.

I think some have speculated that she may have been shopping for the ingredients when she went to the store. (If that's what you mean) but we don't know what the recipe was or if LE knows if she had bought those ingredients or what it was that she was planning on making it for. She may have been planning on making something to bring to dinner at PF's mothers home. We don't know. Imo

 

[jillianelaine]

Seems we forgot to make a map, or it is very well hidden.

I'm happy to put it together. Please note, this is a back and forth process that takes a few steps of refinement to get right.

Locations that need addresses:

Safeway
Kelsey's home
PK's acreage
Waste Disposal
Phone Ping

Here's the starting point. If anyone has approximate addresses for these places, please add to this comment.

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Did the phone ping, because it was used to generate the texts, or were these separate events?

 

[WildWest]

CB mentioned in one of her interviews that KB had asked her for a recipe on Thanksgiving when they spoke but never specified what the recipe was or who KB was making something for. I’ve been wondering why no mention of what KB was going to be making?

If I ask my mom for a recipe I usually say “oh I want to make this for so and so”....

Thoughts on why there has been no mention of what KB was going to make? Not relevant or???

Just something that struck me as odd.

Makes me wonder if that was the trip to Safeway, to get missing ingredients for that recipe?

 

[otto]

Seems we forgot to make a map, or it is very well hidden.

I'm happy to put it together. Please note, this is a back and forth process that takes a few steps of refinement to get right.

Locations that need addresses:

Safeway
Kelsey's home
PK's acreage
Waste Disposal
Phone Ping
Florrisant Fossil Beds

Here's the starting point. If anyone has approximate addresses for these places, please add to this comment.

 

[InvSmith]

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Of course. I don't lie

Exact words back to me... "was she African American"
Me "yes, and running for her life"

4 officers in my tiny living room... "call your landlord"

That really just happened. And actually sobbing my eyes out. That's all. Just that's all

ETO. I opened the door for her to run and promised to call for help.

That really just happened.

Kinda taking a break from everything.

Sorry! Be safe!

 

[scdiv]

Did the phone ping, because it was used to generate the texts, or were these separate events?

I don't think that has been made clear. It's possible it sent the ping when the phone was turned on to send texts. But from what I can tell, none of that timeline has been clarified.