CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #2

[Steelslady]

Here's something that I thought of- maybe they don't suspect her fiance or whatever he is to her now, because of the phone ping in Idaho? Perhaps he has an airtight alibi for the time period that she went missing and the phone ping. meaning, if she were kidnapped or God forbid, murdered, he wouldn't be a suspect or a POI?

 

[alucardsdream]

It's so hard to work a 20 piece puzzle with only 3-4 pieces and no box top to look at. That's how I feel about this case.

I feel like the more pieces we get, the more confusing this case is! Nothing about it is making any sense.

 

[esp123]

I could imagine telling mom that I was having a quiet thanksgiving dinner with fiancée and baby if I wanted to avoid questions about visiting family for the holiday and/or the status of my relationship, even if those weren’t my plans.

Just so little to go on other than that things probably weren’t a tidy pretty picture.

 

[PommyMommy]

I could imagine telling mom that I was having a quiet thanksgiving dinner with fiancée and baby if I wanted to avoid questions about visiting family for the holiday and/or the status of my relationship, even if those weren’t my plans.

Just so little to go on other than that things probably weren’t a tidy pretty picture.

Welcome to Websleuths, esp123.

 

[Inthedetails]

Here's something that I thought of- maybe they don't suspect her fiance or whatever he is to her now, because of the phone ping in Idaho? Perhaps he has an airtight alibi for the time period that she went missing and the phone ping. meaning, if she were kidnapped or God forbid, murdered, he wouldn't be a suspect or a POI?

Whoever did something to Kelsey, if anyone did, didn't necessarily work alone. In that case, he can have an alibi and still be involved.

Just a possibility among others. Thinking aloud, jmo.

 

[celticthyme]

EEEEK!

I Know! My exact reaction!

 

[MassGuy]

Whoever did something to Kelsey, if anyone did, didn't necessarily work alone. In that case, he can have an alibi and still be involved.

Just a possibility among others. Thinking aloud, jmo.

My thinking is that if this is foul play, the individual responsible may have had help after the fact.

So not in the actual murder, but in the coverup of it.

 

[Stunned]

Good catch, I went back to listen. I think he likely did say Berreth. It sounded like he said "the daughter - K? Berreth, is with her father, Patrick."

So it sounded like Kelsey's daughter has her mother's last name which is interesting. Typically a baby would have the known father's last name, even if unmarried? (And yes, I know many times the mother gives the child her last name, simply pointing out she does not seem to have Patrick's last name.)

About 3:07

ETA: Also interesting (now that I have more context on this case) that he goes on to say that Patrick said he hadn't seen her since he went to "exchange their daughter." Nothing about dinner.

That is NOT the way people happily co-parenting talk!IMO!

 

[Inthedetails]

My thinking is that if this is foul play, the individual responsible may have had help after the fact.

So not in the actual murder, but in the coverup of it.

Yes. That's what I'm thinking too.

Help with alibi, cover-up, etc.

jmo

 

[alucardsdream]

My thinking is that if this is foul play, the individual responsible may have had help after the fact.

So not in the actual murder, but in the coverup of it.

You're probably right. I hope if someone did help cover it up after the fact they panic and end up going to law enforcement and trying to strike some kind of deal.

 

[celticthyme]

Here's something that I thought of- maybe they don't suspect her fiance or whatever he is to her now, because of the phone ping in Idaho? Perhaps he has an airtight alibi for the time period that she went missing and the phone ping. meaning, if she were kidnapped or God forbid, murdered, he wouldn't be a suspect or a POI?

Not sure how, but I'm thinking the ping in Idaho is a red herring

 

[Stunned]

It's so hard to work a 20 piece puzzle with only 3-4 pieces and no box top to look at. That's how I feel about this case.

Great anology!

 

[iluvmua]

Why will they not release the text message?

 

[PommyMommy]

Mystery Surrounds Female Pilot Who Vanished Thanksgiving Day | HuffPost
Gooding is a rural town some 100 miles southeast of Boise. At this point, the location does not appear to have any significant link to Kelsey Berreth. There is an airport located three miles outside the city, but police said all the airplanes at Kelsey Berreth’s flight school are accounted for.

Kelsey Berreth’s brother lives in Tacoma, Washington, but that is located about 615 miles from Gooding. Her mother lives in Sandpoint, Idaho, which is also roughly 600 miles from Gooding. According to police, she had not indicated she would be traveling to visit anyone.

Public records indicate Kelsey Berreth has, at some point in her life, resided in both Warden and Ephrata, Washington. Both those cities are more than 400 miles from Gooding.

Still, the relevancy of the cellphone activity is not entirely clear. While DeYoung stated it as fact at the press conference, Woodland Park Police Commander Chris Adams on Friday told KEPR-TV, “It could just be a false ping.”

 

[Kapua]

My guess is that she didn’t leave her child behind. At least willingly.

Yes, that's one reason among many that I don't think she left willingly. Or maybe she left willingly, and was then detained unwillingly. I sure would like to see her full cell phone trail. I haven't heard of any organized searches, but I like to think that the authorities are at least conducting a cell phone forensic search and obtaining video from any cameras in town.

 

[Inthedetails]

Not sure how, but I'm thinking the ping in Idaho is a red herring

I've been wondering about that. Maybe the place to look is in the opposite direction....or something like that.

jmo

 

[PommyMommy]

Woodland Park police release last known footage of still missing Kelsey Berreth
The Woodland Park Police Department released the last known footage of Kelsey Berreth.

The 13 second clip shows Berreth entering the Woodland Park Safeway story on Nov. 22.

Kelsey was last seen on November 22 at the Safeway in Woodland Park around 12:30 p.m. while she was shopping with her daughter, Kaylee. That same day Kelsey would see her fiancé Patrick when she dropped their daughter off.

 

[Kapua]

Mystery Surrounds Female Pilot Who Vanished Thanksgiving Day | HuffPost
Gooding is a rural town some 100 miles southeast of Boise. At this point, the location does not appear to have any significant link to Kelsey Berreth. There is an airport located three miles outside the city, but police said all the airplanes at Kelsey Berreth’s flight school are accounted for.

Kelsey Berreth’s brother lives in Tacoma, Washington, but that is located about 615 miles from Gooding. Her mother lives in Sandpoint, Idaho, which is also roughly 600 miles from Gooding. According to police, she had not indicated she would be traveling to visit anyone.

Public records indicate Kelsey Berreth has, at some point in her life, resided in both Warden and Ephrata, Washington. Both those cities are more than 400 miles from Gooding.

Still, the relevancy of the cellphone activity is not entirely clear. While DeYoung stated it as fact at the press conference, Woodland Park Police Commander Chris Adams on Friday told KEPR-TV, “It could just be a false ping.”

Yup. It could be a false ping. I have been thinking that since yesterday; good to have some backup from the Woodland Park Police Commander.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes, that's one reason among many that I don't think she left willingly. Or maybe she left willingly, and was then detained unwillingly. I sure would like to see her full cell phone trail. I haven't heard of any organized searches, but I like to think that the authorities are at least conducting a cell phone forensic search and obtaining video from any cameras in town.

They certainly have called in the right organizations (CBI and FBI).

They have people who are experts at this sort of thing, aiding the investigation.

The thing that really hurts them, is that so much time passed between her disappearance and the serious involvement of LE here.

They are at a disadvantage because of this.

 

[scdiv]

Somehow my comment ended up in your quote. I’m not even attempting to fix it!

I don't judge! I mean even Bridget Moynahan gave Tom Brady's kid her last name, not his, right @MassGuy ?

Just caught my attention in this case because of the lack of clarity on the relationship with the fiance/baby daddy.