CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #2

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I think what some may not realize is taking care of cattle on a ranch isn't a 9-5 job. There are times you have to be there all hours of the day and night. That's most of the time. You almost have to be at the ranch 24/7. Even though Kelsey's house isn't that far from the ranch, his days and nights would be spent on the road between the two IMO.
Earlier reports on Websleuths indicated Patrick was a farrier.
 
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Do we know for sure that the BF knew she was missing? We don’t know what their arrangements were or what was said when the baby was exchanged. I mean we can guess that he must have known but do we know for sure?
If you and your partner shared a 15 month old, how long would you keep the baby without hearing a word from them before you’d grow concerned?
 
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*Waving back* Awe, thanks Tiffkinsadder! I was on the fence for about half a day thinking maybe Kelsey was stressed out and took a break, but after all I have seen tonight I don't believe that for a moment. I think someone harmed her and someone knows what happened. Now there is a strong effort to cover up. It's very disturbing to see this happening! JMO.
I agree! :smiles:
 
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A small dog wouldn't be able to get food off the counter.

After 10 days with no food and water the dog would be near dead and the house would have reeked. There was no dog!
 
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I'm so confused. I just hope Kelsey is okay and that there is much going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. Pieces seem to be so deliberately left out that it's hard to know what to think. I have no idea what has been honest, forthright information and what has been strategic or orchestrated for specific reasons we don't know about. The whole case is bizarre but will likely make sense looking back if more information comes out.
 
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Do we know for sure that the BF knew she was missing? We don’t know what their arrangements were or what was said when the baby was exchanged. I mean we can guess that he must have known but do we know for sure?
We don’t know for sure but she works and I can’t believe she drops the baby off for a week at a time without any contact based on what I’ve read and heard in family interviews - and while her phone texted she would take a week off work - why not let her Mom know ? Did anyone in either family go to her house ? I don’t think so not until the brother and said her purse and phone were missing
 
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Mother of missing Woodland Park woman hopes for her safe return
Cheryl lives in Idaho and said the two of them talked on the phone twice on Thanksgiving. The call got interrupted because Kelsey had to take care of her 14-month-old daughter. Cheryl said nothing sounded out of the ordinary in those conversations.

“She’s been happy,” Cheryl said. “She’s been wanting to decorate for Christmas and was excited about that, but she thought she thought maybe her fiancee and Kaylee were planning to get the Christmas tree themselves. And so, she’s been holding off on buying something.”

Patrick Frazee was not present for a news conference held by the Woodland Park Police Department Monday regarding Kelsey’s disappearance.

“I still know someone knows where she is, someone has seen her there’s more information out there. Somebody just needs to realize, to recognize, to say something.”

There will be a community prayer vigil for Kelsey in Woodland Park on Thursday. It will be held at the flagpole in Memorial Park starting at 6:00 p.m.
Linked KOAA 5 report that KB dropped child off with PF 3 days after Thanksgiving is in conflict with LE report stating KB last seen on 11/22, and also date child exchanged with PF.
 
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How awful that you would waste time posting such junk.

The intregity shown by both families has been tremendous.

Please help organize searches and posting flyers in your surrounding area.

If you select the reply button it should quote the person you are responding to. Your posts are very confusing without knowing the context of the posts to which you are responding. Hope this helps.
 
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Linked KOAA 5 report that KB dropped child off with PF 3 days after Thanksgiving is in conflict with LE report stating KB last seen on 11/22, and also when she allegedly exchanged child with PF.
The Woodland Park Police FB page states that Patrick dropped off the child.
 
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Maybe all of the WS mods are at a Christmas party tonight! When they make it back online this thread is going to go poof
 
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I think what some may not realize is taking care of cattle on a ranch isn't a 9-5 job. There are times you have to be there all hours of the day and night. That's most of the time. You almost have to be at the ranch 24/7. Even though Kelsey's house isn't that far from the ranch, his days and nights would be spent on the road between the two IMO.
It is only 35 acres. That would be about a dozen head of cattle on good pasture.
 
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Maybe all of the WS mods are at a Christmas party tonight! When they make it back online this thread is going to go poof

Yep
 
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About the cinnamon rolls -

How do we know she made the cinnamon rolls on November 22? They could have been made some time after the 22 and before the 2nd. Maybe she didn't even make them.
You know, I was questioning this in my head. I am a baker myself, and those that bake like I do know that homemade baked goods with yeast go bad quickly. Her mother was quoted as saying that the cinnamon rolls were cold at Kelsey's place- I wonder, were they moldy, too? She just said that they were cold, not mentioning if they were hard as rocks, moldy, etc. So, question being here- if she made those cinnamon rolls on the 22nd of November, and it was Dec 2nd when she was reported missing, how could they not be spoiled by that time?
 
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And I am shocked it’s 90 pages long ! Most threads “reach their limit” much earlier
 
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You think someone planted the cinnamon rolls at her house? Why would anyone do that? o_O
I don't think anyone planted cinnamon rolls at her house.

All we know is that cold cinnamon rolls were found on the 2nd, that's it. We don't know if they were from scratch or came from a can. It's likely she made them on the 22nd but it's possible they were made on another day and it's also possible someone else made them. My mind is open and I'm just looking at all possibilities.
 
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BBM. That part is not in the article.
It was earlier when I posted it to the media thread. (Which is where I copied it from.) I think someone contacted the author and had that section removed? MOO
 
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