CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #2

[Jethro4WS]

Linked KOAA 5 report that KB dropped child off with PF 3 days after Thanksgiving is in conflict with LE report stating KB last seen on 11/22, and also when she allegedly exchanged child with PF.

Right another story publishing conflicting information. I don't know why the media are not using the news releases that the Woodland Park Police are providing on their FB page and I have to think are being sent out to the media as well.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

It is only 35 acres. That would be about a dozen head of cattle on good pasture.

And he only lived 15 minutes from Kelsey's house. I wonder if Patrick must live at home with his mom to take care of his mom who can barely walk.

 

[oviedo]

It was earlier when I posted it to the media thread. (Which is where I copied it from.) I think someone contacted the author and had that section removed? MOO

Yes - this happens in these cases sometimes I screen shot if I think info may “disappear”

 

[mistivon]

And he only lived 15 minutes from Kelsey's house. I wonder if Patrick must live at home with his mom to take care of his mom who can't walk.

Who then takes care of his child. Mm hmmm

 

[Jennifer17]

You know, I was questioning this in my head. I am a baker myself, and those that bake like I do know that homemade baked goods with yeast go bad quickly. Her mother was quoted as saying that the cinnamon rolls were cold at Kelsey's place- I wonder, were they moldy, too? She just said that they were cold, not mentioning if they were hard as rocks, moldy, etc. So, question being here- if she made those cinnamon rolls on the 22nd of November, and it was Dec 2nd when she was reported missing, how could they not be spoiled by that time?

Maybe they were the pre-mixed ones. Heaven knows what preservatives are in them.

 

[lonetraveler]

One more thought.

In SDA culture it might be “shameful” to have a daughter have a child out of wedlock and then not stay with that person.

It’s bad enough to have a baby out of wedlock, but to also not stay with them would be a double whammy.

I’ve had friends get divorced and their parents felt uncomfortable with it. SDAs have a very traditional view of marriage and divorce is a big deal.

How do we know they were still together? The family might publicly be “saving face” still trying to paint a perfect family picture as much as possible.

I totally agree with your opinion. IMO, I think that they are still "engaged to be married" because her parents will not have it any other way in other to look proper. I don't think they were ever going to be married but had to put up with appearances with using the word "fiance'" because they shared a baby together. Just because you make a baby together, doesn't mean you have a serious relationship together. They were working together to raise a baby who wasn't exactly planned and doing the best they could with the situation, IMO.

 

[Tillicum]

You know, I was questioning this in my head. I am a baker myself, and those that bake like I do know that homemade baked goods with yeast go bad quickly. Her mother was quoted as saying that the cinnamon rolls were cold at Kelsey's place- I wonder, were they moldy, too? She just said that they were cold, not mentioning if they were hard as rocks, moldy, etc. So, question being here- if she made those cinnamon rolls on the 22nd of November, and it was Dec 2nd when she was reported missing, how could they not be spoiled by that time?

I make them from scratch and after 3 days they mold unless refrigerated. I think the kind from a can would last longer due to all the preservatives though.

 

[flute4peace]

Oh and let's not kid ourselves- I know for a fact that a VI from another case was not reputable, but they were able to control the conversation and say things because they were verified, meaning, being who they said they are and checked out. That doesn't mean that they're honest.

That’s happened in many cases, unfortunately.

 

[oviedo]

Right another story publishing conflicting information. I don't know why the media are not using the news releases that the Woodland Park Police are providing on their FB page and I have to think are being sent out to the media as well.

Maybe they should take a cue from Jaymes case - if it doesn’t come from LE it may not be true

 

[Steelslady]

Oh, sounds a litte resentful

Yikes, I re-read that and my mind went in a not so nice direction.

 

[tiffkinsadder]

Here’s an article about the dog...a dog...her dog.

Helps to put the link!

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.abc1...of-missing-colorado-woman-kelsey-berreth.html

 

[DexterMorgan]

Her work patterns...If she needed/wanted time off of work, would she Call, or text?

I bet they would say she would call, IMO.

typo.

Agreed. They will obviously tell the detectives. But that doesn't mean they have to share the information with the media. Jmo

 

[PommyMommy]

Linked KOAA 5 report that KB dropped child off with PF 3 days after Thanksgiving is in conflict with LE report stating KB last seen on 11/22, and also when she allegedly exchanged child with PF.

I know it. I removed the incorrect section both here and in the media thread. I'm wondering if they're ever going to get it straight. MOO

 

[tiffkinsadder]

If you select the reply button it should quote the person you are responding to. Your posts are very confusing without knowing the context of the posts to which you are responding. Hope this helps.

You are so cool @Gardener1850 !

 

[Steelslady]

Perhaps she called for a welfare check on November 25 to check on Kelsey's dog.

That imaginary doggie is sure getting lots of love and attention. I am sure God loves the imaginary doggie, too.

 

[lonetraveler]

I know that in my day, if you were living with a man and visited your grandmother, you introduced him as your fiance'. Just saying. I'll venture that if you have a baby with a man, even though you don't live with them, you make it seem as if you are engaged or your mother makes it appear that way to the public.

 

[oviedo]

Who then takes care of his child. Mm hmmm

Who may be learning to walk ? Makes no sense to me

 

[tiffkinsadder]

Agreed. They will obviously tell the detectives. But that doesn't mean they have to share the information with the media. Jmo

I agree. I wish we had a VI.

 

[GHgal]

Spokane Valley Police Department

Do we know this is not Kelsey? Notice how the Spokane PD replies to an inquiry of it being another missing woman but there is no response to the inquiry as to whether or not the woman in the car is Kelsey.

 

[MyBelle]

Agreed. I bet both their phones were blowing up. If not, why not? And if so, why didnt he answer?

Exactly. The maternal grandparents had to be frantic. They had no way to know what was going on if PF didn't answer. The phone call detail will prove who they called, how often they called and the length of the call. JMO

 

[Jethro4WS]

It was earlier when I posted it to the media thread. (Which is where I copied it from.) I think someone contacted the author and had that section removed? MOO

Regardless, it isn't there now for whatever reason as the newspaper did not make mention of why it was removed. Generally, the media doesn't retract something unless they know it is incorrect or if law enforcement asks them to remove something. They don't usually delete things just because some person calls.