CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #22 *ARREST*

[Mom24]

His desires won't mean much when compared with what DHS recommends, in my experience. However, I haven't had any direct experience with a dependency case in which an incarcerated but not yet guilty party is actively involved. Usually they're not showing up.

I posted a link a couple days ago as to the process that these cases go through and what happens and how a parent's rights can be terminated.

I will do some research when I have time as to whether there are any differences when a parent is incarcerated but not yet found guilty.

There have been some big cases in other states about this issue. One in particular involved a child who was ultimately taken from the functional and well to do family in TN that had been raising her after the mother got into drugs and dad was incarcerated. The child was eventually given back to the father she did not know, and moved to I think Nebraska or Missouri, to live with him, when he was released from prison.

But the case did focus on termination of parental rights when a parent is inacerated. It went to the Tennessee Supreme Court. And maybe beyond.

But let's see if these cases are handled differently in CO.

There just doesn't seem to be any good ending to this. I was curious what would happen if a parent terminates parental rights in regards to responsibilities. For example would he still have to provide financial support for her? Would she have any rights to his assets?

 

[Celt1997]

IN had been arrested. Hope this isn’t a duplicate. I didn’t see it posted.

Video: Idaho woman arrested in connection to case of missing mom​

The video and the headline don't seem to match.

 

[CDB]

IN had been arrested. Hope this isn’t a duplicate. I didn’t see it posted.

Video: Idaho woman arrested in connection to case of missing mom​

What a crazy title. No place in the video does it actually say she was arrested, did I get a wrong link?

 

[Herat]

“processed some items of evidence” I wonder if along with her phone, she tried to dispose of her purse, too. To me, this sounds like more than one piece of evidence (phone).

I agree that the plural “some items” is more specific than just “evidence” and implies more than one article.

If IN was in possesion of KB’s purse, she would have known there was foul play and KB would be injured or dead.

I’d think one of the solicitation charges has to deal with her.

Has she been arrested by LE or not? We won’t find out her ID until that time so

 

[PommyMommy]

IN had been arrested. Hope this isn’t a duplicate. I didn’t see it posted.

Video: Idaho woman arrested in connection to case of missing mom​

That was certainly FAST

First I’ve seen that she’s been arrested!

I think they just got the headline wrong. They didn't say she was arrested in the video, just that she's being investigated.
MOO

 

[gitana1]

But there is a hearing date:

Date Len Name Hearing Type Case # Location Division
1/4/19
1:30 PM 3.50H FRAZEE, PATRICK Motions Hearing D602018CR330 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT
1/29/19
9:00 AM 1D FRAZEE, PATRICK Preliminary Hearing D602018CR330 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT
2/7/19
8:30 AM 1H FRAZEE, PATRICK Pre-Trial Conference D602018JV26 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT

link: Seventh Judicial District » Docket Search

I think they were talking about the dependency case. Aren't those dates about his criminal case?

 

[Lhughessk]

I am certain it will be eventually. They had only asked for another week, which is just a few days away so it certainly will. It's not like the DA is refusing to share the information ever to PF. And the reason for the delay is certainly viable IMO. It certainly will not effect PF's defense by having it delayed a few days to protect witnesses.

As one of the Legal experts in the article pointed out, it gives the DA a head start in prosecuting the case. Since when is “we will give it to you eventually” good for individual rights? The DA is overstepping here, and the only precedent for this, apparently, are federal terror cases involving national security. Hardly apples-to-apples.

 

[Mountain Misst]

If there's someone in Idaho, makes me wonder if PF was back on the dating sites looking for a replacement for Kelsey. If he found one with an alias, all the better.

 

[The Night Watchman]

Thanks for sharing that. Interested that the headline says arrested but the reporter and anchor both say she is being investigated.

That is a pretty big difference, IMO.

MSM keeps this up and we won't even be able to quote them anymore!

 

[Mercedes]

That was certainly FAST

She has not been arrested.

 

[Steelslady]

Arrested or investigated?
Video has arrested headline, but content only says investigated.
More incorrect information by the media, IMO.

I have seen it happen in the past, when someone has been arrested, that they have both a story of them being investigated as well as arrested at the same time. Until they update the story correctly, folks will think the site is giving conflicting reports. I wonder if she's been arrested within the past couple of hours, and the story is just coming out? Although, I would expect a huge BREAKING NEWS title to show up above the correct story, if true.

 

[gitana1]

You don’t KNOW that it will be shared. That is what is going to be argued tomorrow. And the defense attorney has had the affidavit in his possession since shortly before the arrest, but he’s had to withhold it from PF because of the prosecution’s pending motion, which is extremely rare according to legal experts:

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/01/02/patrick-frazee-arrest-warrant-withheld-constitutional-rights/

EDIT: I think the attorney hasn’t seen the affidavit, either.

Yeah that would be totally unconstitutional. I will eat my hat if the court grants that motion.

 

[Hatfield]

What a crazy title. No place in the video does it actually say she was arrested, did I get a wrong link?

That does seem to be an incorrect title above the news video (so far).

News sites sometimes prepare titles and articles in advance of upcoming stories. We have seen this sort of mistake before in other cases.

 

[Mercedes]

The video and the headline don't seem to match.

True. Here we go again!

 

[PommyMommy]

I think they were talking about the dependency case. Aren't those dates about his criminal case?

The first two are the criminal case. The last one is the custody case.
MOO

 

[CatKelly]

IN had been arrested. Hope this isn’t a duplicate. I didn’t see it posted.

Video: Idaho woman arrested in connection to case of missing mom​

Very misleading title. The video just mentioned that she was under investigation.

 

[KSinMT]

“processed some items of evidence” I wonder if along with her phone, she tried to dispose of her purse, too. To me, this sounds like more than one piece of evidence (phone).

I would bet one of the items is probably the nurses phone too. IMO they'd be looking into any correspondence between her and PF. The police chief did say in the presser after his arrest that cell phones played a big role in it.

 

[PommyMommy]

If there's someone in Idaho, makes me wonder if PF was back on the dating sites looking for a replacement for Kelsey. If he found one with an alias, all the better.

It has been reported that PF and <modsnip: name variations not allowed> met at a rodeo and have possibly been romantically involved since 2016.
MOO

 

[KBB87]

She has not been arrested.

Another link from this morning with the same video has a headline saying she’s being investigated, so the “arrested” headline is newer. Is it a mistake or an update?

 

[The Saint]

Was PF Kelsey's first serious boyfriend?
I think almost every woman knows deep down if her partner is cheating on her or not.

Judging from KB's Instagram category of Bible verses and inspirational
quotes, she was really struggling with the situation with Patrick and trying to steel herself.

She may have been naive, but I know she was trying to do what was best for her child. Who would think that a guy she met on a Christian rancher dating website was going to murder her?

Her Instagram is under her name.
IMO