CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #24 *ARREST*

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  • #241
I've always thought someone involved in the case (PF or maybe KK or someone he solicited) can be seen on the video and that's why it hasn't been shown. MOO

Maybe. Total spec on my part but what if someone, who she wouldn't recognize, followed her in safeway to be able to communicate to someone else when she was on her way home. Then the person is waiting, possibly hiding when she arrives back at home. I know if I ever have to hide from someone (when I'm playing with my kids, nothing nefarious), I immediately have to go pee. So i would need someone to give me the heads up to get in position so i wouldn't have to wait long. Again total speculation.
 
  • #242
Hard to search if you don’t know where the body is or if say, all that’s left are ashes.
So true. Even a vague inference isn’t much help in a rural setting, imo.
 
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I do wonder though is the “sensitive evidence” being transported from Idaho to CO might just be bone fragments or ashes. Forensics might tell the whole story if they do find fragments or blood anywhere and I think they did.
 
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So you think it might KK or someone else dressed to look like Kelsey walking into the Safeway?

No, I was more thinking that you can see Kelsey leaving as well as someone involved watching her or leaving with her.
 
  • #247
Exactly, hence the wording of the lawsuit. Life without parole is just too easy for this killer. MOO

Nothing yet regarding DP, correct? I miss out on some news, lol, due to RL. Tia
 
  • #248
Maybe the weather and/or terrain dictates only professionals be involved.
If that's the case, why the secrecy? I'm sure "reporters" would have sniffed this out by now.
 
  • #249
Agree, see my post #224.

I think someone was on his phone “she’s leaving, just pulled out....you ready? She’s on her way, she should be home any second......”

Jmo

Meaning on his phone as he sat in his vehicle in the parking lot or adjacent lot
Or on HER phone???? MOO
 
  • #250
Maybe. Total spec on my part but what if someone, who she wouldn't recognize, followed her in safeway to be able to communicate to someone else when she was on her way home. Then the person is waiting, possibly hiding when she arrives back at home. I know if I ever have to hide from someone (when I'm playing with my kids, nothing nefarious), I immediately have to go pee. So i would need someone to give me the heads up to get in position so i wouldn't have to wait long. Again total speculation.

Agreed. I think it was someone not necessarily known to Kelsey but known to LE now.
 
  • #251
I heard only a portion of another case on HLN today where a woman’s body was burned in a barrel with diesel fuel and three years later, they proved the eyewitness was telling the truth by finding petroleum products in the rings of tree branches that was exactly three years old. Fascinating stuff. Horrible murder.
 
  • #252
Nothing yet regarding DP, correct? I miss out on some news, lol, due to RL. Tia
Dan May said they had nine weeks to decide whether or not to file as a DP. Can any of the verified attorneys weigh in on when that clock began/begins?
 
  • #253
Since K is unmarried, the way I read the civil suit procedure, her child/parents are next in line. Surely the attorney is aware of the law. Imo

In a civil case, you could sue anyone for damages. You have to demonstrate how their death impacted you. A mother of a child would probably be number one on the list.
 
  • #254
In case anyone is wondering, I am pretty sure MOO = My Own Opinion (And is not a reference to PF’s cows as I believed for about 10 threads )

Welcome Esaj with a great first post.
Thanks :):):):):)
I needed a laugh.
 
  • #255
If that's the case, why the secrecy? I'm sure "reporters" would have sniffed this out by now.

Well, it would be of no benefit to announce “based on info we are searching tomorrow at 8a.m., at John Doe blvd”
Because it’d be chaotic. IMO.
Often, the public searches are not beneficial. IF a person has been able to give LE a definitive search area, they don’t need 837 civilians, imo.
We know so little about any of theses cases. Only what LE wants known.
Moo
 
  • #256
I'm not sure what the rules are in regards to this drug in CO, but in most states an RN isn't allowed to administer that drug.
But at any rate, the poster was talking about PF having access to the drug, not KK.
I understand that. However, he has more than one way to acquire drugs - himself or through someone else. . Also I was responding to your original post where you mentioned pre-op drugs and I remembered the info about her nursing job.

In any case, I doubt it went down this way, but it's sure is scary to imagine.
 
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  • #257
Dan May said they had nine weeks to decide whether or not to file as a DP. Can any of the verified attorneys weigh in on when that clock began/begins?
Wouldn’t that be nine weeks from the arraignment? Just wondering myself.
 
  • #258
The parents are likely the representatives of KB's estate, and their actions would include the interest of KB's minor child.
Absolutely, they even 'own' the mortgage on Kelsey's townhome. Although I'm sure that's little consolation for them. :(
 
  • #259
Life insurance would be very expensive for a pilot, if I'm not mistaken it's actually one of the questions asked on the form when you apply. Her company would most likely provide some type of coverage that she may or may not have increased and paid for the additional. She seemed responsible, having a daughter, owning a home and successful career leads me to believe she would have the mindset to take care of her daughter. If he were the beneficiary and he knew it - getting rid of her solved a lot of his problems. Additionally, her parents may have a policy on her too. JMO
Can one take out life insurance on someone without their knowledge?
 
  • #260
Is anyone CLEAR on where P received the baby?
Did K deliver to him, did he go to K’s or did he meet her in a parking lot?
I have been unable to determine the location. Tysm
 
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