CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #25 *ARREST*

[Trudie]

IF KK is involved to a higher level than phone disposal, I see this as a finger-pointing case. If a “friend” asked me to participate in any crime, I would immediately assume he wished for the crime to occur but wanted me to do the time. Jmo
In any case, I think, based on what we think we know, things didn’t go as planned, for PF.

 

[Lhughessk]

Lol, maybe someone running on adrenaline, unsure what to do.
Actually, I drove by our local Sonic on T-day & the lotvwas packed. Maybe there for a “turkey dog”. Idk

One thing for us all to remember is that not all of us are blessed with families to cook big holiday dinners. Some of us are not blessed with families at all. I’m thankful to have family to do that with. But if you’re single or divorced, or you live out of town away from family and couldn’t travel, or you don’t cook, how are you going to eat on that day if you don’t go to an open fast food place?

 

[dkryder]

I don't think we know if the texts were sent from ID or CO, just that the phone pinged from ID. Maybe I missed it? If someone has a quote from LE that says the texts were sent from ID, please share.
MOO

it has never been stated by LE that i'm aware of. but, the texts were supposedly sent 11/25 which is the same day the phone supposedly pinged in ID. so, yeah, a bit of jumping to conclusions i guess.

 

[WildWest]

Are the news outlets using older photos of KK as well as newer, or are there 2 different women they’re claiming to be this woman? There are pictures of a thinner blonde lady & then pictures of a much heavier woman who also has blonde hair? I can’t tell if she just gained a lot of weight or they are using 2 different women’s photos?

yes, she lost a lot of weight

 

[Trudie]

One thing for us all to remember is that not all of us are blessed with families to cook big holiday dinners. Some of us are not blessed with families at all. I’m thankful to have family to do that with. But if you’re single or divorced, or you live out of town away from family and couldn’t travel, or you don’t cook, how are you going to eat on that day if you don’t go to an open fast food place?

Right. There’s no law everyone must eat turkey with distant relatives. Lol.
If one is planning a murder for T-day, a turkey is likely irrelevant.

 

[Crooked Chicken]

Well I can't seem to figure out how to play the one you are talking about. but, just going on this if it's confirmed she was in Woodland Park on the 24th.. I wonder if it's possible she really had no idea and he put KB's phone in her car or hid it somewhere in her car without her knowing so she would take it back to ID with her and the phone would "ping" in ID.. then he remotely was able to send those texts giving himself more time?

I had a hard time viewing the video, seems to take forever to load the DVR. Here's a screenshot of KK's vehicle (black SUV??) in the Woodland Park Sonic drive thru. It does not state the time she was there, but that the police had a requested video for a 6-hour timeframe on November 24.

Live on Livestream

I too think the photos of KK are from her younger rodeo days vs. current. FWIW, when KK was married she lived on a red angus cattle ranch in Hansen, Idaho. Lots of photos of children on the social media page - appears to me they may live there full time IMO. Both KK's family and her ex's comment there.

 

[Trudie]

I was looking for more info on that, who ownes/lives in that home. It is somewhat common in farming communities for sons to stay at home or on the property since thats where they work. Lots build home on property.

I think so. Depending on the size of the herd, the acreage, etc. could the MIL own the land?

 

[Lhughessk]

yes, she lost a lot of weight

No, I think it’s the other way around. The pics where she is heavier usually show kids. I think she did what so many of us do - have kids, don’t shed all the weight, then go thru a divorce and start seeing Ben and Jerry regularly.

 

[Mom24]

Haven't yet caught up from last night, but I do believe MSM has made another mistake. I found the admonishment for nurse KK in colorado and it's not the right KK. PF's KK is KJK, the nurse in CO is KBK.

 

[JKathryn]

When I was still working a few years ago, at my place of employment we actually did send texts for calling in sick. My husband is also currently over several people in his business and it is very common for them to text if they call in or are going to be late. Most of these people are around KBs age. It’s mainly how they comminucate when they are not in front of each.
However, in both of those cases, if anyone were to casually send a text saying they won’t be in for a week, there would definitely be some phone calls quickly made to find out what is going on, if everything is okay , or anyone is needing help of some kind.

As far as the text to KB's employer I don't think the sender was concerned about how professional it looked. We also don't know if someone at Doss did try to reach out, text her back or call her phone. If her emergency contact was listed as PF (since he's the closest in proximity to her) I'm sure he would have been able to divert the concern somehow.

 

[allboys]

I don't think we know if the texts were sent from ID or CO, just that the phone pinged from ID. Maybe I missed it? If someone has a quote from LE that says the texts were sent from ID, please share.
MOO

We have never seen anything from LE confirming where phone was when texts were sent. And I’m sure there is a very good reason for that. We just know that the ping in ID and texts from KB’s phone occurred within the same 24 hours. (on 11/25)

 

[Trudie]

yes, she lost a lot of weight

Actually, I think she gained a few pounds from her “queen” days, not that it matters. Moo

 

[Kapua]

I was guessing no. If the phone pinged in the 5 o’clock hour in Gooding, I was thinking that gave her time to get home and prepare before having the custody exchange with her ex-husband. Seems like 7 or 8 Sunday evening is a common time for that to take place. Though, did I see on the news somewhere that she and ex still live together? Even so, I imagine they “took turns” with the kids.

MOO

If she did have her kids with her, it would be much less likely that she participated in any clean up activities at KB's. IMHO.

 

[24Brix]

I've always thought the message to KB's employer was via email, not text. Texting your employer is a bit too informal, no? Maybe I missed where it was said they received a text. I thought There was only a reference to a message being sent to them. MOO

Edited to clarify.

IMO, it’s not too informal at all since the text message to her employer was sent on a Sunday. To the contrary, a conscientious employee who has her boss’s cell number wouldn’t want him to walk into work on Monday morning to a surprise absence. Especially if she had a class to teach.

We don’t have a time of death yet but it’s fair to say we all believe she didn’t send those messages. (The wording of those messages is one of the things I’m most eager to learn!) But I don’t think the perceived informality has any real bearing on exactly who really did send them. If anything, I would expect IN to be a little more knowledgeable about proper business etiquette than PF would be. So, to me, this is another reason to believe there is an actual conspiracy on the planning side.

 

[Trudie]

Yeah. I truly believe the motive in this case was the baby. Possession of the baby. People go insane it seems over things like that.

And my feeling is that PF is a person who likes control and likely has dysfunctional attitudes about the parent-child relationship.

Now, he has no control.
The only other motive I can consider is K discovered something about him. Something he wished her to not know. Something that made her think some changes were due & he did not want things to be changed.

 

[justtrish]

Goodness she paid with a credit card? That tells me either 1. she didn't think anyone would ever suspect she helped in any way because why leave that easy of a trail to follow?? Or 2. she just didn't help or have any knowledge at that point (the 24th) that he killed her or did anything.

 

[WildWest]

No, I think it’s the other way around. The pics where she is heavier usually show kids. I think she did what so many of us do - have kids, don’t shed all the weight, then go thru a divorce and start seeing Ben and Jerry regularly.

Oh, I was thinking her kids looked young in the heavy pictures making it closer to preggo weight and that they are older now.

 

[Herat]

One thing for us all to remember is that not all of us are blessed with families to cook big holiday dinners. Some of us are not blessed with families at all. I’m thankful to have family to do that with. But if you’re single or divorced, or you live out of town away from family and couldn’t travel, or you don’t cook, how are you going to eat on that day if you don’t go to an open fast food place?

Or sometimes, it't just nice to enjoy a day off from work without obligations. Don't have the nightmare Thanksgiving grocery shopping, don't have to cook a huge meal and clean up, don't have to entertain people you might not be crazy about. I've had multiple quiet T-Days where a microwaved meal, or a pizza, or an In-And-Out Burger suited me just fine

 

[Trudie]

If she did have her kids with her, it would be much less likely that she participated in any clean up activities at KB's. IMHO.

I am guessing she traveled solo.

 

[Crooked Chicken]

IMO, it’s not too informal at all since the text message to her employer was sent on a Sunday. To the contrary, a conscientious employee who has her boss’s cell number wouldn’t want him to walk into work on Monday morning to a surprise absence. Especially if she had a class to teach.

We don’t have a time of death yet but it’s fair to say we all believe she didn’t send those messages. (The wording of those messages is one of the things I’m most eager to learn!) But I don’t think the perceived informality has any real bearing on exactly who really did send them. If anything, I would expect IN to be a little more knowledgeable about proper business etiquette than PF would be. So, to me, this is another reason to believe there is an actual conspiracy on the planning side.

I think that most employers would require you to phone in if you have some sort of emergency that will require you to be away from work. IF you sent a text due to it being a weekend, I think it would be expected you'd follow up with a phonecall ASAP on Monday morning. There is no way that I could send a text to my employer and say "hey, I'm gonna take a week off -- see ya soon" and not face consequences, possibly suspension or firing.