CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #27 *ARREST*

[karinbean_]

I really don’t think looks play in, at all, here. KB was gorgeous. I don’t think PF would be doing much better than her in the looks department, yet he presumably killed her. Clearly he’s not really about treating people well who are, by society’s standards, “beautiful”.

Right. KB was way out of his league in looks, intelligence and kindness. And deep down, PF knew that and had a complex about it. MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

Yea, I don’t think one would ask a casual acquaintance. Not as readily as he might ask a person with a grievance towards the intended victim. Moo

He could have also asked her because she had some sort of vested interest in Kelsey being killed.

He also could have greased the wheels, and made up lies about Kelsey.

 

[kkdj]

He could have also asked her because she had some sort of vested interest in Kelsey being killed.

He also could have greased the wheels, and made up lies about Kelsey.

He could have offered money....even on a sliding scale for what participation she was willing to do. Apparently the phone is one of them. jmo

 

[MassGuy]

He could have offered money....even on a sliding scale for what participation she was willing to do. Apparently the phone is one of them. jmo

I think this was more about their future, and Kelsey being out of the way.

I doubt it involved money, but it’s always possible.

 

[Trudie]

I only mention the weight because imo, KK looks drastically dif’ (imo) from her rodeo queen days.

Quoting myself~

Once pictures of KK were available, there seemed to be mass confusion whether the Rodeo Queen & the more recent pics are the same person. I’m not interested in her weight. Only that her appearance imo has changed significantly. I’ve known men to divorce because his wife has gained weight. IMO, some men want this woman to look 25 forever. Possibly, PF’s feelings towards KK changed.....fueling jealousy, hatred & revenge. Idk
As plausible to me as PF killing KB due to declining cattle prices. Moo

 

[Trudie]

I think this was more about their future, and Kelsey being out of the way.

I doubt it involved money, but it’s always possible.

Ita. Where would money come from?

 

[PrairieWind]

I've only been able to peek in here a time or two the last several days. So I've missed lots again I'm sure. Do we know that IN is the one that was solicited?

 

[MassGuy]

I've only been able to peek in here a time or two the last several days. So I've missed lots again I'm sure. Do we know that IN is the one that was solicited?

Those are the reports. She was apparently solicited on three occasions.

 

[allboys]

True. That’s a hell of an ask.

He must have believed that she would be open to the idea.

Which is beyond my comprehension.

Whether they are romantically involved or not... KK is a mother of 2 children. A NURSE. I’m a former teacher. It’s safe to say that I would never have gotten into teaching if I didn’t like children.

I guess I’m crazy for making the assumption that someone who decides to become a NURSE, is someone who generally cares about the health and well being of human kind? And someone who is a nurse would not be who someone thinks is a good option to solicit murder?!?

Yeah, yeah - I know. I’ve heard of nurses and doctors who have purposely ended life, nefariously, in the line of duty. But that is very rare.

This is *seemingly* a normally functioning mom/nurse.

Even if there is a love triangle...this is a 32 year old MOM of young kids. My brain was already buzzing on the possibility of her destroying KB’s phone. (And knowing why it needed to be destroyed)

But that she could be someone who has characteristics that make PF feel comfortable asking her to murder the mother of his baby?!?!?

There is really only one thing that goes through my mind. What the %!@k????

Obviously, there are so many layers to this case and its players that we are just beginning to get a sense of.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

very early on maybe thread 2 or 3, a sleuther surmised there would be a woman involved and further guessed it was the woman who liked all of PF social media posts. This was before he scrubbed his - I sure wish that sleuther would pop in and let us know if he/she was right. I thought it was Massguy but it was not. I will try to find the post.

I didn't really believe it myself. PF is really no prize, it's hard to believe he roped Kelsey in the first place, much less another woman.
I was honestly shocked at the news that there is another woman.
Hard to wrap my head around that.

 

[MassGuy]

Which is beyond my comprehension.

Whether they are romantically involved or not... KK is a mother of 2 children. A NURSE. I’m a former teacher. It’s safe to say that I would never have gotten into teaching if I didn’t like children.

I guess I’m crazy for making the assumption that someone who decides to become a NURSE, is someone who generally cares about the health and well being of human kind? And someone who is a nurse would not be who someone thinks is a good option to solicit murder?!?

Yeah, yeah - I know. I’ve heard of nurses and doctors who have purposely ended life, nefariously, in the line of duty. But that is very rare.

This is *seemingly* a normally functioning mom/nurse.

Even if there is a love triangle...this is a 32 year old MOM of young kids. My brain was already buzzing on the possibility of her destroying KB’s phone.

But that she could be someone who has characteristics that make PF feel comfortable asking her to murder the mother of his baby?!?!?

There is really only one thing that goes through my mind. What the %!@k????

Obviously, there are so many layers to this case and its players that we are just beginning to get a sense of.

People can do crazy things in the name of love, but I agree, it’s hard to fathom that this seemingly normal nurse and mother, decided to aid in a murder of another mother.

Maybe she justified it with the belief that the baby would be better off without Kelsey, but that would require some tremendous lies on the part of PF.

I definitely wouldn’t put that past him though, as we’re talking about a killer here.

 

[Trudie]

I didn't really believe it myself. PF is really no prize, it's hard to believe he roped Kelsey in the first place, much less another woman.
I was honestly shocked at the news that there is another woman.
Hard to wrap my head around that.

I bet she found PF attractive. I’ve seen less attractive men, believe me......imo, they are less attractive.
Many men & women have multiple love interests.
Or, a relationship deteriorates but a scorned woman might not realize her cowboy rode off.....

 

[Kapua]

Which is beyond my comprehension.

Whether they are romantically involved or not... KK is a mother of 2 children. A NURSE. I’m a former teacher. It’s safe to say that I would never have gotten into teaching if I didn’t like children.

I guess I’m crazy for making the assumption that someone who decides to become a NURSE, is someone who generally cares about the health and well being of human kind? And someone who is a nurse would not be who someone thinks is a good option to solicit murder?!?

Yeah, yeah - I know. I’ve heard of nurses and doctors who have purposely ended life, nefariously, in the line of duty. But that is very rare.

This is *seemingly* a normally functioning mom/nurse.

Even if there is a love triangle...this is a 32 year old MOM of young kids. My brain was already buzzing on the possibility of her destroying KB’s phone.

But that she could be someone who has characteristics that make PF feel comfortable asking her to murder the mother of his baby?!?!

There is really only one thing that goes through my mind. What the %!@k????

Obviously, there are so many layers to this case and its players that we are just beginning to get a sense of.

IKR?
I'm still not 100% buying that ONE media report that stated that KKL was the one solicited. That is mind-boggling - a hit WOMAN? A hit woman who is a mother, and a nurse? Just crazy!

 

[OldLadyBlues]

Ok, I haven't seen it asked, but what man asks (THREE TIMES EVEN) a woman to do his dirty work?
And better question yet, what educated professional woman listens to the request THREE TIMES and doesn't run fast after the first time the man makes the mere suggestion????
My neck is sore from shaking my head! Not only would all my girlfriends know of his stupidity, but there would have been a traceable email shot off to my LE reporting him!
Or was she that desperate for love?

MHO, MOO

 

[Snow Flower]

Knowing, from the MSM article today, that he solicited her 3 times takes all conjecture about KK going there for Thanksgiving and being blindsided for me. Like most everyone here I have been interested in true crime, both written and on television, for years. There has been rare cases that a person who wanted someone dead faked romance with a person and talked them into either helping them kill someone or killing a person. We need more information to really know what the case is in this situation but IMO I am not ready to quit believing KK did more then just throw the phone away. Not yet anyway.

 

[MassGuy]

IKR?
I'm still not 100% buying that ONE media report that stated that KKL was the one solicited. That is mind-boggling - a hit WOMAN? A hit woman who is a mother, a nurse, and a former teacher? Just crazy!

I buy it, as I thought it was possible all along.

I couldn’t believe that she unknowingly transported, texted, and dumped Kelsey’s phone, and was ignorant of what she was helping with.

She had to have known, and the fact that she was apparently solicited, makes this all fit.

She knew.

 

[Marli61]

IMO, it remains unclear when she was allegedly killed.
Unless, as Rio explained, she told her mom she baked rolls.
I don’t know if KB had meds. Certain meds would disqualify her from flying, imo.

Not if they were birth control pills, allergy meds, etc

 

[allboys]

IKR?
I'm still not 100% buying that ONE media report that stated that KKL was the one solicited. That is mind-boggling - a hit WOMAN? A hit woman who is a mother, a nurse, and a former teacher? Just crazy!

Yes, I need to not get ahead of myself since there is only one report. This just seems like more than a “typo” kind of report. But it’s definitely possible that it’s misinformation.

BTW, the part about being a former teacher was regarding me. Unless you have also read KK was a former teacher too? I’m going to really hope that’s not the case. I can only take so much...

 

[PrairieWind]

I have just wondered if perhaps IN wasn't the instigator of this crime. She put the idea in PF's head to get rid of KB. And PF solicited someone else to do it. Or a couple people. And one of those people is the source of information to LE, not IN (who I think may NOT be cooperating with LE, at least not fully).

 

[Trudie]

Not if they were birth control pills, allergy meds, etc

Yes....I said “certain”.