CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #27 *ARREST*

[oviedo]

Yes, and if they are attorneys they would have known full well they did not have enough information for LE to get involved. Imo

Depends on the area of practice IMO criminal is way different than probate or corporate litigation

 

[MsBetsy]

The timeline - why come forward now with media interview? The employee being harassed when she knew in October about the plot? Why would she defend KK knowing this? This whole turn of events makes no sense to me - I get that KK May be involved I just don’t understand why this is coming out now JMO

Maybe they feel the need to clear up the rumors and speculation? Or maybe its just a good story and the press came to them. Imo

 

[Trudie]

They needed to alert LE immediately after hearing '..asked her to kill the mother of his child'.
This is part of the problem with the world. People must speak up.
This is not a personal attack on ANYONE. It is a judgement on behavior between right and wrong. This is a very clear line. There is no grey area. This is what I mean. I want to scream.

Maybe someone did. Police couldn’t put a 24/7 watch on numerous people they may have been “talking”. Moo

 

[Trudie]

Maybe they feel the need to clear up the rumors and speculation? Or maybe its just a good story and the press came to them. Imo

Good point. This is NOT new info. New to msm, yes. And to WS. Moo

 

[SharonNeedles]

I don’t understand the criticism of these people. It’s not like they had direct contact with KK, and she told them what her boyfriend had asked her to do.

They asked KK’s friend to contact them directly, and she chose not to.

They immediately contacted the FBI, upon putting the pieces together.

They are now speaking out, because their employee is being harassed.

I believe them.

They seemed genuine.

The blame lies with PF, and probably with KK as well. It may also lie at the feet of others.

It ain’t these people though.

Totally agree.

 

[Ccging]

They needed to alert LE immediately after hearing '..asked her to kill the mother of his child'.
This is part of the problem with the world. People must speak up.
This is not a personal attack on ANYONE. It is a judgement on behavior between right and wrong. This is a very clear line. There is no grey area. This is what I mean. I want to scream.

Understandable, but one or both of them are attorneys, they know full well when they actually had enough info to contact LE and they did so. Honestly, if they had called LE just knowing “our employee said her best friend said her boyfriend wants her to kill his baby mama”, LE would have hung up on them, unless they had names, locations, dates, and specifics they could tie to KB.

 

[oviedo]

Maybe they feel the need to clear up the rumors and speculation? Or maybe its just a good story and the press came to them. Imo

As far as we know did anyone harass them or even know about them? I know the bff had harassment but did they? I just do not understand this timing and their motive ?

 

[Kapua]

Or KB could have watched her back. Applied for concealed carry. Installed security system and cameras...if ANY of these people would have warned her.

Exactly! The person who needed to know of PF's intentions was KB. I wish someone would have told her. But would she have believed it? Would she have protected herself? Would her naivete have been her downfall regardless? MOO

 

[Trudie]

Exactly.

 

[wsliz123]

I’m confused as to why the Rs went to the media? How is that supposed to stop the harassment of their employee? Not being flippant, I just honestly need some help understanding this.

My first thought, which is superficial, in regard to this couple is he is a personal injury attorney. They are concerned about accountability, how they are painted publicly, for their business. It is about reputation, money, income, etc.

 

[Aydrianna523]

The R's should have told LE, and let LE decide if there's enough information to investigate. Nonetheless they probably didn't realize the seriousness of the conversation... so I'll give them a pass.

 

[Herat]

I wonder if the BFF knew PF:

I would think KK would associated with rodeo people and it would be likely a BFF would be in that circle.

So if KK and BFF were rodeo people, wouldn't she have likely crossed paths with PF?

What if she and PF had had a thing for a while?

I mean we've been told this was complicated. Let's make it really complicated and postulate BFF and PF know each other, too.

 

[oviedo]

My first thought, which is superficial, in regard to this couple is he is a personal injury attorney. They are concerned about accountability, how they are painted publicly, for their business. It is about reputation, money, income, etc.

Wow I get it now - thank you

 

[wsliz123]

Exactly! The person who needed to know of PF's intentions was KB. I wish someone would have told her. But would she have believed it? Would she have protected herself? Would her naivete have been her downfall regardless? MOO

I believe she would have done all she could to protect herself and the baby. She is a flight instructor, a field that takes a lot of skill, brains, braun etc. If the truth of his intentions and the conversations reached her, she would have been able to get away/have a chance.

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

Exactly! The person who needed to know of PF's intentions was KB. I wish someone would have told her. But would she have believed it? Would she have protected herself? Would her naivete have been her downfall regardless? MOO

Sadly I don’t think she would have believed KK, but it might have put a tiny seed of doubt in her mind about PF. MOO

 

[oviedo]

I wonder if the BFF knew PF:

I would think KK would associated with rodeo people and it would be likely a BFF would be in that circle.

So if KK and BFF were rodeo people, wouldn't she have likely crossed paths with PF?

What if she and PF had had a thing for a while?

I mean we've been told this was complicated. Let's make it really complicated and postulate BFF and PF know each other, too.

Oh dear that would be a huge complication and is anyone else in custody???

 

[MsBetsy]

I would NEVER speak out about a friend. That would not be my job. IMO, a friend respects his friend/s & that means silence. Jmo
It does no good for people to come out and say things. It’s only their perspective. No one knows if what they say is true. Or, if they might have ulterior motives. Moo
I’m assuming a good many relationships of all kinds are destroyed when people spout off. Moo

Although there have been several who have spoken in his defense. Imo

 

[Jazzy5980]

They needed to alert LE immediately after hearing '..asked her to kill the mother of his child'.
This is part of the problem with the world. People must speak up.
This is not a personal attack on ANYONE. It is a judgement on behavior between right and wrong. This is a very clear line. There is no grey area. This is what I mean. I want to scream.

You have to be able to stand up.

All too OFTEN law enforcement does not take domestic violence threats seriously. I practiced civil law for many years. During that time I represented a number pro of bono clients who were victims of domestic abuse. In one instance the opposing party texted his attorney that he intended to kill my client, her parents and me over a real estate dispute. Opposing counsel notified the court immediately; however, law enforcement refused to detain the offender. It took weeks before he was charged and the county prosecutor ultimately dropped the charges. I received a permanent order of protection which extends to 2087.

 

[tricia]

See you all tomorrow

 

[tricia]

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