CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #27 *ARREST*

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  • #181
Perhaps, but on a holiday weekend, it seems like she would make contact with other family members, or reply to texts sent etc...she cannot have been so isolated that no one reached out to her over the weekend, could she? But then we are back to her not being reported missing/asking for welfare check for so long...maybe it was normal for her.

I wonder if she didn’t socialize a lot. Perhaps her contacts were busy doing their “thing” & didn’t contact her.
Maybe I’m crazy, I see this going in a dif’ direction than some. However, I lack the credentials to diagnose personality disorders, financial status, familial issues and such w/o knowing the subject. I don’t leap to conclusions.
 
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  • #182
Anyone else here watch "You" on Netflix? It came out in September 2018, the main character excelled at sending texts from people's phones after having killed them. It kept people from searching for the missing. Maybe PF got some idea's from the show.

Don't need to leave WS to know that it is a common ploy by killers to continue to send texts from a victim's phone. It is a very cruel way and full of revenge against the recipients when it continues over time. It's not new.
If indeed it turns out that someone, other than Kelsey sent the text to her employer then IMO, this is indicative of potential jealousy of Kelsey's chosen career. There would be a personal agenda, at the least.

All of the above is my opinion.
 
  • #183
I don't think anyone means to say it is one thing that the LE are going by. It is the sum of everything ie last sighting, last phone use, cinnamon rolls, her vehicles and other belongings, PF's whereabouts after, Informant information etc etc.

Jasper~I get it.

If you stop by my house right now to borrow a hammer, I don’t use my phone for 36 hours, no one misses me for ten days, were you the last person to see me? Could someone have not stopped by after you left?
We don’t know. We can assume from msm KK gave LE info that lead to PF’s arrest. How believable is she?
 
  • #184
So lets say I'm in her position. LE comes to talk to me and they have enough information about the cellphone that I start talking and talking. He told me to take the cellphone to idaho and send the messages. I didn't want to I was afraid. He scared me. He didn't just kill KB in a fit of anger, he planned it out. He came to me three different times to ask me to do it. If he was willing to kill KB, he might kill me so i did it. etc etc More detail. Do you think she could get immunity for her role in the cellphone if she was able to make it look like she was afraid of him. Not saying it is a good story- she could have gone to the police, lives hundreds and hundreds of miles away. But do you think LE would make an immunity deal because her info was good and all she did was dispose of the phone and send messages , or not? Obviously, i don't expect you to read minds lol, but liklihood?
I completely agree with you...I bet she will try to say she feared for her life. Meanwhile, if she was so terrified, why didn't she go to the police before everything went down? She doesn't even live in the same state and traveled towards him for Thanksgiving. IMO she wasn't all that fearful, but she will probably use that to get a deal or immunity.
 
  • #185
I think this is just for just investigating and developing the case. She is in protection and the arrest warrant remained sealed until recent and still from the general public to protect witnesses contamination (this was mentioned in the first arrest video). This is NOT "protection" in the typical sense we would/might think. This is clearly being done here with the arrest warrant and KK.
patrick frazee arrested - Bing video

I would think she’s not in “protection”. Who might she need protection from, CO LE?
Jmo
 
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  • #186
Agree.... obviously reporters get "the sniff" on a story and jump to be the first one to get it out there. I hope what she is reporting leads to something (her errors kind of lead me to think she is jumping quick for good reason)..... and I also hope, she steps back and checks her story before it is sent out to the masses.
 
  • #187
Idk. I’m of the opinion KK wanted KB gone. IMO, a cowgirl would be very pissed if her cowboy impregnated a new woman.
Imo, a woman that MIGHT be struggling with weight issues MIGHT be very jealous of a petite, stunning girl.....

Are you implying KK may be struggling with weight issues? I thought nobody has seen any pictures of her. I don't want to incorrectly assume that you are saying she may have had weight issues just because she is involved with the rodeo scene.
 
  • #188
I have got to be the dumbest wanna-be sleuther of all. I still do not understand why PF would have wanted to murder Kelsey.

I think that will depend on who winds up being the mastermind of this plan. I’m starting to think that it wasn’t PF at all and that he was the little “puppy dog” in this.
 
  • #189
Another perplexing thing, if PF solicited any person 3X, why the heck did that person not go directly to LE upon hearing the victim went missing?

If John Doe asks me ONE time to kill his wife Jane & I decline, only to later learn Jane is missing, I’d be at the police department with my attorney,
 
  • #190
Rodeo associate shows support for woman investigated by FBI
One of KL’s long-time supporters shares with KMVT’s Kelsey Souto how KL’s rodeo involvement put her into the spot light. KK, now KL, was crowned the 2008 Miss Magic Valley Stampede queen.

“She was probably one of the best queens, she was amazing,” said LS, who spent time with KK in the District VI rodeo circuit.
LS says she knew the family well.

“A person is gonna be hard pressed to find someone more honest, reliable, kind and very well grounded,” LS said. “She's just one in a million. My K, she's a really wonderful, wonderful person. And I cannot for the life of me, and I can't imagine any of this, what her families going through, her friends.”

Since K’s (alleged) connection to the Berreth case came to light, a number of her friends have reached out to KMVT to say they don't believe she's capable of harm. However, most of the friends are afraid of doing an interview on camera for fear of backlash from the community.

(names changed to initials by me)
 
  • #190
Maybe a dumb question but if she was in custody of the FBI, can they keep that under wraps? If so, why would they?

At the very least, I do believe they have a close eye on her while they gather what they need.

Yes. The FBI can pretty much do whatever they want, within the realm of the law of course. Just think of all of the classified subjects out there...
 
  • #191
@PommyMommy.... correct me if I am wrong because I have total faith in you :)...... should I be skeptical of this particular reporter from CrimeOnline???..... In reading this, reporter says "In announcing Berreth's arrest at a news conference etc" (Bereth's arrest????... what gives with that??). The reporter then goes on to to mention FoxNews31 sent a reporter to Hansen, Idaho.....then says "Hansen worked as a nurse in Twin Falls".... if I'm reading this correctly (and I've read it 3 times), this reporter is all over the map with errors....I know what she means, but it really makes me wonder if she is jumping the gun to get a story out.... I'll reread the other news outlets highlighted here....

She sounds like she’s been drinking
 
  • #191
I think that will depend on who winds up being the mastermind of this plan. I’m starting to think that it wasn’t PF at all and that he was the little “puppy dog” in this.

Ita
Thinking out of the box......
 
  • #192
So lets say I'm in her position. LE comes to talk to me and they have enough information about the cellphone that I start talking and talking. He told me to take the cellphone to idaho and send the messages. I didn't want to I was afraid. He scared me. He didn't just kill KB in a fit of anger, he planned it out. He came to me three different times to ask me to do it. If he was willing to kill KB, he might kill me so i did it. etc etc More detail. Do you think she could get immunity for her role in the cellphone if she was able to make it look like she was afraid of him. Not saying it is a good story- she could have gone to the police, lives hundreds and hundreds of miles away. But do you think LE would make an immunity deal because her info was good and all she did was dispose of the phone and send messages , or not? Obviously, i don't expect you to read minds lol, but liklihood?

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that that’s exactly what she’s saying. But whether it rings true or not depends on other factors. Like NKs claims that were disproven once we saw the texts between her and CW.

The fact that she lived so far away and drove home that Saturday or Sunday will be hard for her. She could’ve gone straight to police when she was away from him. I don’t think she willingly did. Something led them to her.
 
  • #193
She sounds like she’s been drinking
I just checked the article again.... Berreth's arrest is changed to Frazee's... Hansen is still the same. (just to make sure I wasn't crazy, I have a screen shot of original article).
 
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Are you implying KK may be struggling with weight issues? I thought nobody has seen any pictures of her. I don't want to incorrectly assume that you are saying she may have had weight issues just because she is involved with the rodeo scene.

What?
Her picture or a woman identified by msm as KK are available and have been for days.
A rodeo has nothing to do with anyone’s weight. IMO
 
  • #196
Rodeo associate shows support for woman investigated by FBI
One of KL’s long-time supporters shares with KMVT’s Kelsey Souto how KL’s rodeo involvement put her into the spot light. KK, now KL, was crowned the 2008 Miss Magic Valley Stampede queen.

“She was probably one of the best queens, she was amazing,” said LS, who spent time with KK in the District VI rodeo circuit.
LS says she knew the family well.

“A person is gonna be hard pressed to find someone more honest, reliable, kind and very well grounded,” LS said. “She's just one in a million. My K, she's a really wonderful, wonderful person. And I cannot for the life of me, and I can't imagine any of this, what her families going through, her friends.”

Since K’s (alleged) connection to the Berreth case came to light, a number of her friends have reached out to KMVT to say they don't believe she's capable of harm. However, most of the friends are afraid of doing an interview on camera for fear of backlash from the community.

(names changed to initials by me)

That is some serious blind support! “Oh, I will always stand by KK,” Her Friend said. “I believe in her with all my heart.”
 
  • #197
something i have been thinking about is i'd like to read more background on KB. from what i understand she met PF online and relatively shortly thereafter moved to CO. is it known at about what date they met and then around what date she moved? and if PF was something of a ladies man then why import from over 1,000 miles away with all the somewhat emotional baggage that would go along with that? has anyone read an article from KB former home town in, i think , WA , that has reactions and/or personal insights from people/friends/co-workers into this happening to KB and what she was like before she left? i have not seen any "human interest" stories about KB prior to her move and it would help me understand this relationship with PF somewhat. anyone seen coverage of KB life pre - CO?
 
  • #198
I think that will depend on who winds up being the mastermind of this plan. I’m starting to think that it wasn’t PF at all and that he was the little “puppy dog” in this.
The only thing new news is that the 3 solicitations involved IN. That info doesn't change anything...PF is behind everything IMHO.
 
  • #199
Are you implying KK may be struggling with weight issues? I thought nobody has seen any pictures of her. I don't want to incorrectly assume that you are saying she may have had weight issues just because she is involved with the rodeo scene.
Do a search, several pictures of KK out there, and more than half of Americans are struggling with weight issues. IMO
 
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  • #200
May have been a combination of things that makes LE think she was killed on 11/22...jmo

Right. I’m looking for a statement from LE that they do believe it to be 11/22. I’ve just never read or heard a specific date. Just a thinking here......sorry. Thinking about Sonic, the proximity to the condo, Saturday morning, etc.
 
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