CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

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  • #101
Perhaps KK is telling everything to LE including that she told the BFF about the plot - and the BFF told her she told her employers and then KK told her not to worry about it - so now anyone who knew before the murder is getting their story out first so it can be told in a positive light? Otherwise, I see absolutely no reason for them to have conducted this interview - it does not help the case IMO. so Why now?
Spin?
 
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The R's " tell KMVT, last October, one of their employees came to them visibly upset.

The employee explained her best friend, now identified as KK, allegedly told her that "a man had asked her to kill the mother of his child."

The two then told their employee, to have KK come speak to them.
But, she never did.

The R's say KK even told her best friend "to forget the whole thing."

Without enough information, and hearing a conversation second-hand, they say they weren't able to alert the authorities at that time.

"If we could've just gotten the police to call or drive by and say 'Are you thinking of killing someone?' that would've stopped it," said JR. "We wouldn't be here. We wouldn't have all of this going on."

So did they try to get the police to go or not? This quote seems like JR is saying they did and LE did not go or call. IMO this is spinning.
 
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The R's " tell KMVT, last October, one of their employees came to them visibly upset.

The employee explained her best friend, now identified as KK, allegedly told her that "a man had asked her to kill the mother of his child."

The two then told their employee, to have KK come speak to them.
But, she never did.

The R's say KK even told her best friend "to forget the whole thing."

Without enough information, and hearing a conversation second-hand, they say they weren't able to alert the authorities at that time.

"If we could've just gotten the police to call or drive by and say 'Are you thinking of killing someone?' that would've stopped it," said JR. "We wouldn't be here. We wouldn't have all of this going on."

So did they try to get the police to go or not? This quote seems like JR is saying they did and LE did not go or call. IMO this is spinning.


Kinda hard to do when you don’t know Patrick’s last name.
 
  • #104
Who was the lady who had a murder for hire plot on her husband? IIRC, someone contacted LE about it and they did a sting and she is now in jail.
 
  • #105
Kinda hard to do when you don’t know Patrick’s last name.
But I'm betting the employee who is the BFF of KK, knew his last name. IMO
 
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I am wondering if LE has requested that the interview not be released. in it's entirety, all at once, for a reason?

I believe most of us here would wholeheartedly agree that the blame for KB's death rests solely with the one(s) who did it...but...Good Lord! If you hear that someone is planning someone else's death, and you have even the remotest indication that the threat is real (BF was upset according to the R's), then by all means, sound the dang alarm!

Frankly, I would have anonymously contacted KB and told her!

But did they know who she was? Did the BFF or this couple know Kelsey or her name? The couple appearsnot to have because they only had the name Patrick and put it together after the fact. So they said.
 
  • #109
My impression was that it was after the fact that the harassment started. People can be idiots, and FB seems like the perfect breeding ground for that. Sad, and stupid.

I think that online harassment and cyberbullying should stop in general, and in particular, in criminal cases.

- It might tamper with the investigation.

- I don't know if the cyberbullies are stupid or pursue secondary gain. MOO - they might be harassing in the hope that their targets, out of exasperation, will give out some information. Being privy to insiders' information gives power.

Now let us look at the Rs and their employee.

- I can't have any solid opinion about the R's today except for "good that the case has more witnesses".

I was not standing there listening to the conversation between them and their employee. I don't know what details they knew.

I can only hope I'd be more proactive, but on the other hand, their answer could be what most of the people would give if they don't know too much. Offer free consultation.

Our knowledge of their involvement does not give us the right to harass the R's, their employee or anyone close to the case. Our opinions should be measured.

They are all potential witnesses.

If we want to raise our children more morally aware and prevent future senseless crimes, all potential witnesses should know that their actions would not be questioned and they would not be cyberbullied.

Another concern in financial. Excessive persecution by the vigilantes locos ends in more protective custodies. I believe there is better way to use taxpayers' money. Also, sooner or later there might be legal actions taken. Think of this.

MOO.
 
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The R's said they are telling their story now after their employee faced harassment on social media due to misinformation circling around.
Idaho couple say they called the FBI after hearing about the 'plot' to kill Kelsey Berreth | Daily Mail Online
Yes, they're telling their story publicly now after they notified the FBI in December when seeing Kelsey's mother CB pleading for information on TV. This was before PF was arrested, which did in fact help link KK to PF solidly IMO.
 
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But did they know who she was? Did the BFF or this couple know Kelsey or her name? The couple appearsnot to have because they only had the name Patrick and put it together after the fact. So they said.
This is guessing on my part but if the BFF was approached in October by KK about the plot to kill the mother of PF's baby - I believe the BFF would have asked KK - who is the mother? and I believe KK knew KB's name. They all were on social media and could have checked her out. IMO
 
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Who was the lady who had a murder for hire plot on her husband? IIRC, someone contacted LE about it and they did a sting and she is now in jail.
Dipalito ? the one in Florida I think

ETA: Not to make light of the situation, but that was the worse acting I've ever seen when LE told her he'd been killed. Who does stuff like this?
 
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I agree with you, actually, about their decision to now be interviewed. But until I learn otherwise, I'm going to assume (and they said as much in the interview, if I recall) that they didn't go to LE initially because they knew with confidence that their information was not specific enough for LE to respond at that time.
Their info wasn't specific enough, but their employee's info was. They had more than enough information in October to get LE in contact with KK.
 
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But did they know who she was? Did the BFF or this couple know Kelsey or her name? The couple appearsnot to have because they only had the name Patrick and put it together after the fact. So they said.
I would have to think if this person was truly KK's BFF, yes she would more than likely know who PF was. IMO

ETA: spelling
 
  • #115
Dipalito ? the one in Florida I think
Yes! Dalia Dippolito. It's an older case, but Dateline actually just re-aired the story a few weeks ago.
 
  • #116
But I'm betting the employee who is the BFF of KK, knew his last name. IMO
and she certainly knew KKs last name, which would have been a starting point for questions.
 
  • #117
Is this misreporting or did LE find more than just a few drops of blood or DNA?
I didn't think they found much.
Thoughts?

"Weeks ago, a Sheriff in Colorado told reporters Berreth is believed to be dead after remains were found in southern Colorado."
Hansen, Idaho is Target in Kelsey Berreth Investigation
 
  • #118
@otto -- respectfully, you are getting it wrong. Go back and watch last night's interview or read last night's posts for details and context.

The Rs did not get involved due to social media fluff. They got involved when they were told of things related to the case, well *before* the murder.

They called the FBI once they realized what their information related to.

The social media harrassment (of their direct employee, not of KK) was why they decided to do the interview now. But the interview is not the substance of their involvement.

Right. That's what I got from the interview. I'm not sure where the social media stuff is coming in.

They said they saw KB's mom on tv. Heard about KB's death and her fiancée "Patrick". Then put two and two together with remembering the employee who told them in october about her best friend being asked by a man named Patrick to kill his baby's mama.

So they called. And it was connected.
Maybe they felt in October it was just silly gossip or too far fetched to mean anything. But any kind of threat like that should be taken seriously. I would've called.
 
  • #119
What are people’s thoughts on the takeaway from the interview that PF asked KK (aka IN) to kill KB. Why ask a woman who’s allegedly linked to you intimately to kill the mother of your child?
 
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In my opinion the R's are doing the interviews because they are getting blowback from the employees support of Idaho nurse and they want people to know they called FBI as soon as they connected the dots. This whole case has a lot more to come out hopefully sooner then later just my own opinion
 
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