CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

[BingoBongo]

Exactly. I get they didn't have details of names, etc. I assume they are telling the truth here. But they were interested/concerned enough to pass on a message to KK, through their employee. But you at least give LE the information you were provided, as a concerned citizen. Then let them decide how to proceed. The ball would have been in LE court.

I can't sit here and say it would have absolutely saved KB life, but maybe it would have. I personally don't know LE to be incompetent as a whole. Maybe they would have had an upset employee who felt betrayed, oh well at the end of the day.

It appears to me the couple just assumed what LE would or would not do. They are not responsible for KB's death but I'm still so disappointed. KB deserved to have someone looking out for her, as she seemed to be completely unaware that her murder was being planned.

I wish I could give this more likes!

When someone claims to have knowledge of a murder, or potential murder, why not SAY SOMETHING?! All it takes is a simple phone call to local LE, then let them take it from there.

 

[Celt1997]

I wonder if the R's are getting paid for the interview?

They say they finally went to LE after seeing CB's plea, like they were doing her a favor. If I were CB, I'd be livid to know that they had information in October, and are now parading around on TV (possibly making money) patting themselves on the back ... while her daughter is dead due to multiple peoples' inactions.

 

[Hatch]

Jmo As lawyers they should have acted. Jmo

My belief is the BFF should of reported it to LE she should of been first line, just because the R's are lawyers and one of their employees mentioned to them a friend in another state has a boyfriend that wants my friend to help him kill his baby's Mom, they did their part by telling employee have your BFF call me. IMO as attorney's they have case loads and real life going on daily. If this employee never mentions it again it was probably forgotten about until the R's saw the news , at that time it most likely dawns on them oh S---! that is the baby Momma our employee's BFF was talking about. The phone call to the FBI happens. Blame PF and IN and BFF they were on the front lines of this plot to kill KB. IMO Good for them for calling the FBI or this may have gone down as another young woman missing ! The R's acted in good faith IMO !

 

[BingoBongo]

I’m guessing many of us have dealt (professionally) with threats, I have. Those of us reporting threats to LE know how “seriously” they DON’T take things. IMO, particularly things they deem to be nothing more than personality disputes. MOO

But just because we don't think LE will take it "seriously" is NOT a reason to ignore.

 

[MrsWatson]

I'm glad to see I am not alone in being utterly baffled at the point of that interview other than pure self-promotion.

If their employee was being bullied and/or harassed on SM, there is a really simple cure: Get off SM. Not go on TV and blab about it.

 

[Trudie]

LE would have informed Kelsey...let her be aware of what they heard. Even if they had no details...jmo

Oh. In my state, they would not do that. There’d have to be specific details. That’s good that CO & ID take things seriously. Moo

 

[BingoBongo]

I wonder if the R's are getting paid for the interview?

They say they finally went to LE after seeing CB's plea, like they were doing her a favor. If I were CB, I'd be livid to know that they had information in October, and are now parading around on TV (possibly making money) patting themselves on the back ... while her daughter is dead due to multiple peoples' inactions.

Makes me wonder if another civil lawsuit is possible? Maybe it's just my emotions speaking, but heck, if it were my family member who perished due to someone not speaking up...I'd have a really tough time with that.

 

[Sddaisy25]

So if I understand correctly they could only do that prior to the crime if they were hired. And after the crime, they would not be able to go on television and say all this is that correct.

I might be misunderstanding your question, but had KK or BFF retained the R's, then the R's would have been bound by attorney-client privilege and not able to say anything unless they knew a specific crime was going to happen. From all the information available at this time, neither KK nor BFF was being represented by the R's, so the R's were not bound by a/c privilege and could have gone to LE at any time.

 

[SandyQLS]

ITA. I am way behind. Am I correct in assuming that KK was only found out because of this couple going to the FBI? That she did not do the right thing and come forward on her own?

That's my understanding.

The R's called the FBI sometime after seeing the Dec 10 presser with CB. The FBI was already in Twin Falls because of KB's phone pinging in Gooding. Two links in this thread (IBTimes and DM) report that PF was arrested 4 days after they called. DM:

Within four days of making the call to the FBI, Patrick Frazee was arrested.

PF was arrested Dec 21. That would put the call from the R's at Dec 17. I think the BFF/employee statement to the R's was just in passing; the R's certainly forgot about it, young people drama.

JMO but it may be that KK was identified in the case based on the call from the R's and not as a result of electronic communications between PF + KK.

What I do not understand in most posts is the assumption that KK was telling the truth to her BFF. I don't even think she is the BFF but more like a "useful idiot" FF. JMO and I don't know anything about KK, but I have never known of a beauty queen or cheerleader type who did not have 20 BFF's. KK told this BFF the story that her BF wanted her to kill his babymommy for some reason known only to KK, but KK knew fully well that this BFF works for a law firm, and also likely knows her well enough to know the BFF would blab.

I don't have any reason to think KK told this BFF a truthful story about being solicitated by PF. I don't know. KK may have told her the truth or just made it up.

 

[BingoBongo]

I'm glad to see I am not alone in being utterly baffled at the point of that interview other than pure self-promotion.

If their employee was being bullied and/or harassed on SM, there is a really simple cure: Get off SM. Not go on TV and blab about it.

Again, I bet a lot of their coming forward on TV was business related damage control. They already saw what happened to their employee on FB, they have to have been concerned the same might happen to their business.

 

[Hatch]

That's how I am looking at it.

I agree

 

[susiQ]

I wonder if the R's are getting paid for the interview?

They say they finally went to LE after seeing CB's plea, like they were doing her a favor. If I were CB, I'd be livid to know that they had information in October, and are now parading around on TV (possibly making money) patting themselves on the back ... while her daughter is dead due to multiple peoples' inactions.

Yes! A thousand times!!!

 

[Herat]

It all comes back to KK

SHE had not just one casual “I want you to kill her” contact from PF, but 3 (as we are hearing from LE)

She was the ONLY one who understood the threats were real and persistent.

She had the most persuasive information to give to LE to prevent a premeditated murder, at least a month prior to the event due to the October dates on this revelation.

And yet, not only didn’t she report it, but she participated to at least accessory BEFORE the fact as well as accessory AFTER the fact.

I have to assume she is desperately trying for a plea deal to keep her out of prison for the rest of her life.

But unless she can deliver the body, I think LE has her nailed.

 

[Herat]

Yes! A thousand times!!!

Lawsuit time

CB should go after them

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Does the BFF know PF?

If KK and BFF are best friends, would they both be associated with the rodeo world?

If there has been a long-standing “friendship” of KK and PF and KK refers to PF as her boyfriend to BFF, wouldn’t BFF have known who he was, and that is why she would be “visibly upset” when talking to employers?

Because she KNOWS PF and knows he is a real person, not just some random unknown KK has been seeing? BFF knows the story of KB, and probably knows he is capable of this?

AND, if so, do employers then know that BFF knows PF?

Yes, and the interviews, I would like to know what their conversation was with their employee once they put all the pieces together. Before and after they call the FBI! And if they discussed with their employee that they were calling the FBI, to put that in the timeline to see if the BFF contacted KK and then contacted him.

I have a feeling we really are going to need an updated timeline on this for the future.

 

[Cortne]

Yes. Their employee, who informed the R's of the solicitation, was friends with KK.

Understood KK’s friend works at the law office. I also understand they were told Patrick’s name when the employee brought it to the employers attention. Did the employee also mention KK to her bosses?
Thanks so much for clearing this up in my head lol

Edited for typo

 

[BingoBongo]

We don't know if they were paid the 25,000, or if they even accepted it if offered. Withholding judgment here until we have some facts to be fair.

Rewards like this are not paid out until all is said and done.

 

[Elley Mae]

This dated

Published at 7:00 pm, January 3, 2019
Updated at 7:10 pm, January 3, 2019

Police in Twin Falls have been trying to return to Colorado evidence of a sensitive nature that was discovered in December, after the FBI asked them to assist in the murder investigation, they said Thursday.

Police would not discuss the evidence further and said they’re working with Colorado investigators to determine whether the items should be sent by mail or courier.

Twin Falls Police will send "sensitive" evidence to Colorado in connection to missing woman | East Idaho News

.....

Any thoughts on this now that we know what we know.

 

[BingoBongo]

What can LE do? The “boyfriend” in your situation would lie & deny, if the police did question him, imo.

They could have alerted the victim, KB. If so, she may not have become a victim.

 

[Esma]

That's my understanding.

The R's called the FBI sometime after seeing the Dec 10 presser with CB. The FBI was already in Twin Falls because of KB's phone pinging in Gooding. Two links in this thread (IBTimes and DM) report that PF was arrested 4 days after they called. DM:

Within four days of making the call to the FBI, Patrick Frazee was arrested.

PF was arrested Dec 21. That would put the call from the R's at Dec 17. I think the BFF/employee statement to the R's was just in passing; the R's certainly forgot about it, young people drama.

JMO but it may be that KK was identified in the case based on the call from the R's and not as a result of electronic communications between PF + KK.

What I do not understand in most posts is the assumption that KK was telling the truth to her BFF. I don't even think she is the BFF but more like a "useful idiot" FF. JMO and I don't know anything about KK, but I have never known of a beauty queen or cheerleader type who did not have 20 BFF's. KK told this BFF the story that her BF wanted her to kill his babymommy for some reason known only to KK, but KK knew fully well that this BFF works for a law firm, and also likely knows her well enough to know the BFF would blab.

I don't have any reason to think KK told this BFF a truthful story about being solicitated by PF. I don't know. KK may have told her the truth or just made it up.

Yes to all of this.