CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

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  • #961
At least her kids can visit her in jail if that happens poor baby girl can't even visit a grave site

With all due respect KKL’s children are innocent victims. Their lives have undoubtedly been turned upside down because of their mother’s selfish actions.
 
  • #962
Wow this is beginning to be a case of making alibis and excuses. KK's excuse is flimsy and just doesn't make sense. She is a grown woman not some impressionable teenager. The bff is trying to provide an alibi of sorts.
The 3x's is a she said and appears to be hearsay at this point.
Just my MHO.
 
  • #963
With all due respect KKL’s children are innocent victims. Their lives have undoubtedly been turned upside down because of their mother’s selfish actions.
They are likely being taken care of by their grandparents or dad. At least they know their mom is alive. She isn’t dead like KB. And KB could possible be alive, possible, if KL had stepped up.
 
  • #964
With all due respect KKL’s children are innocent victims. Their lives have undoubtedly been turned upside down because of their mother’s selfish actions.
Her kids are innocent and their lives are going to be a mess .pf and Idaho nurse destroyed so many families with this and we haven't heard all the le/FBI/cbi have yet in moo
 
  • #965
Idaho woman had relationship with fiancé of missing Colorado mom, couple claims

JMO I have said it before- spin
This info about KK is hearsay and surely not admissible in court because KK is available as a witness (attorneys, please correct me).

From the article

"Krystal was so scared, he was so angry that he said things that made Krystal think he had killed before. So of course, she's going to be terrified," Joe Rockstahl said.

Someone local Websleuther once posted about the disappearance of other women from Woodland Park. It it a possibility that Patrick Frazee had been in any way involved? Where is that poster, it was many threads ago?
 
  • #966
The curiosity in me wants to know the rest of this story. But more than that, I want to see all of the players charged and convicted accordingly for Kelsey and her family! Prayers that justice is served swiftly for them!
 
  • #967
I’m still thinking Granny.
Thus far, it’s vastly dif than the majority here.
Before I can write the final chapter, I need a few more details up to Thanksgiving.
Maybe it’s just me but this couple has never met KK — info must be coming from the BFF or others. For some reason, to me, it sounds like damage control for KK. It will take a lot to change my mind.

No call to law-enforcement from KK when KB was threatened over a period of time. And again no call when her own child was threatened. The latter is difficult to swallow. I don’t buy the stories. Time will tell, I hope.

Do we KNOW the R's have never met KK?
 
  • #968
I just can’t see KK being scared and innocent in any way here.

I’ve seen a few people ask why would he solicit a woman in the first place.

My answer is, if you’re asking someone to kill for you, you’re putting yourself way out on a limb. Barring hiring a pro, I think you have to be pretty damn confident that the person you ask would be willing to do the deed, or at least not turn you in to police.

PF asked the person who would either do the deed or help him cover it up, and not tell the police.
 
  • #969
It’s possible PF asked KK to do it, and later told her to forget about it and she rationalized it and wrote it off. It’s possible PF didn’t do the job. It’s possible KK knows this because she was with him all the time and is his alibi. It’s possible once she realized KB was missing and PF didn’t do it, she realized she was also at risk of disappearing. It’s possible he planted the phone on her as a warning. It’s possible someone else entirely had the phone, and the ping so close to her was terrifying, because she assumed the killer was out there and close to her. It’s possible she was threatened with death or harm to herself and loved ones. It’s possible she didn’t go to LE, out of fear. It’s possible she did go to LE. There’s too much we don’t know.
 
  • #970
Do we KNOW the R's have never met KK?

yes, they stated that in the latest release of their tv interview today.
 
  • #971
The R's sound like they are entirely covering up for helpless lovelorn little KK.

Like KK is the victim here !

Such a victim that instead of going to LE because KK thought her own life was in danger from PF, she drove 700 miles to WP in November and premeditatedly particpated in a premeditated murder.

And PF had no other choice to save his child than kill KB

I'm now really furious about the participation of KK and want her to serve a lifelong sentence in prison and the R's and BFF to also pay a penalty for this ludicrous fairy tale ignoring the death of an innocent woman
 
  • #972
I’m not buying what the R’s are selling. There is something very disingenuous about this interview and their demeanor. The first video didn’t strike me this way. There is no way they know all this. I think they are weaving a story to make some money for their ‘exclusives’. I just don’t believe them. Business must be slow at the ol’ small town Idaho Law Office. I think they are nothing more than parasitic. Making a buck off of someone else’s tragedy.

EXACTLY

Their self-interest in this nauseating fairy tale about the childlike innocence of KK reeks.

I hope CB can also sue them in the name of KB and Baby B.

They are disparaging the name of the murder victim!

Maybe the CO judge will issue a gag order for the trial of KK when it invariably comes up
 
  • #973
I just can’t see KK being scared and innocent in any way here.

I’ve seen a few people ask why would he solicit a woman in the first place.

My answer is, if you’re asking someone to kill for you, you’re putting yourself way out on a limb. Barring hiring a pro, I think you have to be pretty damn confident that the person you ask would be willing to do the deed, or at least not turn you in to police.

PF asked the person who would either do the deed or help him cover it up, and not tell the police.
A love rival seething with jealousy. Seems like she dumped her hubby for him, then along comes KB,and has his child.
How dare anyone, she's the Perfect Rodeo Queen.
 
  • #974
I am on board with everyone else here. This story is bs. KL is in this deep. First of all...and don’t doubt me on this...you don’t fool with a mama bear. I have four children. If anyone told me I had to commit murder for them or help with a cover up because “little girls go missing from playgrounds”..... I would first go to the FBI and tell them to put a wire on me and record PF. Second, I would call him and let him know I had a bullet with his name on it and that KB was the LEAST of his worries now. Maybe not in that order. You just don’t threaten my child. My life means nothing, compared to my child’s life. So IF KL said that, and that is a big IF, she is lying. I hope they nail her to the wall with PF.

I agree. It just all seems like bs with this story from the R's. It seems as if they are trying to paint a sympathetic picture of KK before all of the gruesome details come out in the media of how deeply involved she was in this and what all she did. It is as if they want everyone to feel sorry for KK with the line 'she was vulnerable' and Frazee threatened KK and 'we all hear stories about what people will do for love' (wait, what the heck are you talking about woman???) Vunerable? She lived 800 miles away!! She had a job, no financial ties, no children with Frazee and nothing to lose if she never ever saw him again. On another question to the R's when asked about the motive, the R's said, "That he felt that Kelsey was going to harm the child, that she was crazy." Are you kidding me? KK is a nurse and PF's family has ties to LE. They know better. Now come on - if you think someone is harming a child, you don't kill the mother. You report it, you talk to the doctor, get it on record, go to a judge, etc, etc., Why did the R's say this? Are they trying to make KB look bad? This is all MOO but I listened carefully to what they were saying and kept asking myself why are they saying these very specific things? I don't think anyone is going to buy this bs because we don't feel sorry for KK. She should have ran to LE or to KB with her BFF and told EVERYTHING to protect her children, KB and her daughter. She could have handed over her texts from PF, put on a wire, etc.and turned over all info and everything they had on PF. That's what a Mama Bear does! Unless you are crazy, jealous of someone's partner and want them out of the picture. Just sayin'. JMOO
Idaho woman had relationship with fiancé of missing Colorado mom, couple claims
 
  • #975
It’s possible PF asked KK to do it, and later told her to forget about it and she rationalized it and wrote it off. It’s possible PF didn’t do the job. It’s possible KK knows this because she was with him all the time and is his alibi. It’s possible once she realized KB was missing and PF didn’t do it, she realized she was also at risk of disappearing. It’s possible he planted the phone on her as a warning. It’s possible someone else entirely had the phone, and the ping so close to her was terrifying, because she assumed the killer was out there and close to her. It’s possible she was threatened with death or harm to herself and loved ones. It’s possible she didn’t go to LE, out of fear. It’s possible she did go to LE. There’s too much we don’t know.

That story won't fly anymore with the R interview, from he BFF.
1. solicited 3x in MSM now
2. Alibi's for each other- pretty weak when they both had discussions about killing her and then she's dead
3. Phone planted on her- no sorry. Text messages sent. Info her friend gave to the R's. She had the phone, not the phone was planted. If it was that info would definitely be part of the story that the R's are putting out there.
4. Fear- sorry. She didn't live with him. She lived 13-14 hours away. She had the info that he solicited her 3x she could go to police with. if she was so afraid why be with him in Colorado as you suggest instead of safe at home.
5. No way I buy she went to LE before hand otherwise KB's disappearance would have been investigated right away.
6. Did she go to LE after- maybe. To try and save herself.

As much as I wanted to believe that KK couldn't be complicitly involved in this, I am hard pressed to believe anything else.
 
  • #976
From the article

"Krystal was so scared, he was so angry that he said things that made Krystal think he had killed before. So of course, she's going to be terrified," Joe Rockstahl said.

Someone local Websleuther once posted about the disappearance of other women from Woodland Park. It it a possibility that Patrick Frazee had been in any way involved? Where is that poster, it was many threads ago?
Yes, I remember that, too!
 
  • #977
But why are they doing these interviews? Money (are they being paid?), sway public opinion on the players?, get ahead of something nasty to come out? It really makes no sense to me that they would be speaking this way and it seems to me, to make KK and BFF appear naive and innocent - JMO.

That's what I'd like to know. Why do these interviews at all? The timing is interesting. Who benefits? I'm reserving judgement, but something stinks.
 
  • #978
I agree...scorned and all too happy to help remove Kelsey from the picture. I'm not at all buying that KK was afraid of PF or scared for her life.
Me either. Could be why PF feels rail roaded.
Not that he's innocent,but certainly he didn't work alone.MOO
 
  • #979
yes, they stated that in the latest release of their tv interview today.

Well, that's very interesting because I don't think they could possibly be releasing this information about her without her written permission.

They sound very much like they are a PR firm representing her.

I expect a photo shot of KK in a frilly white dress, picking daisies, with blue flowers in her hair, next
 
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  • #980
A love rival seething with jealousy. Seems like she dumped her hubby for him, then along comes KB,and has his child.
How dare anyone, she's the Perfect Rodeo Queen.

Right? I can see Pf's attorney's having a field day with this. Hopefully she kept enough evidence to, and he left enough evidence that she isn't left holding the whole bag. Only because PF deserves life imprisonment as well, other than that she made her own bed...

Beautifully written by the way (above)
 
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